US - Israel - Iran War

Inspite of what the Iranian IRGC is saying, I think the B-2s have done their part well. The physics, the material engineering, and the striking methodology of GBU-57 seems to be sound. I doubt the satellite imagery will show a lot of surface level damage. Hence, confirmation will most likely be done by covert assets of the Israelis' as well as their informants present within the regime. The GBU series has a good track record so far. Let's see what the IMINT says. Even if the facility is not obliterated, it should be rendered useless for further enrichment.
 
Inspite of what the Iranian IRGC is saying, I think the B-2s have done their part well. The physics, the material engineering, and the striking methodology of GBU-57 seems to be sound. I doubt the satellite imagery will show a lot of surface level damage. Hence, confirmation will most likely be done by covert assets of the Israelis' as well as their informants present within the regime. The GBU series has a good track record so far. Let's see what the IMINT says. Even if the facility is not obliterated, it should be rendered useless for further enrichment.

I will not be surprised if we see BMs tipped with dirty bombs raining down on Tel Aviv and/or American bases in the region in recent future. Nukes are just one way.
 
I will not be surprised if we see BMs tipped with dirty bombs raining down on Tel Aviv and/or American bases in the region in recent future. Nukes are just one way.
That would be a one way ticket to the afterlife for every IRGC member. The retaliation would obliterate Iran. I do not believe the Iranians would be foolish enough to pull such a stunt. But such a possibility does exist, we live in a complicated world.
 

Just hours after U.S. President Donald Trump confirmed that American warplanes had bombed three nuclear sites inside Iran — Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan — Brigadier General Alireza Tangsiri, commander of the IRGC Navy, repotedly issued a stark warning: “The Strait of Hormuz will be closed within a few hours.”
 
That would be a one way ticket to the afterlife for every IRGC member. The retaliation would obliterate Iran. I do not believe the Iranians would be foolish enough to pull such a stunt. But such a possibility does exist, we live in a complicated world.

It is amply clear now that Israel doesn’t want Iranian regime to survive. Honestly, if Israel and US think that Iran will surrender, I don’t understand what drives their optimism. So the idea of this regime will be if we are to go down, we will make Israel unliveable for a very long time. US opened a can of worms with the strike, let’s home they have a plan on containing the worms now..
 

The pictures are showing damage. As expected, there was some damage to the facility. The exact confirmation is HUMINT dependent. The post impact image of the Fordow nuclear facility shows two places which could have been possible bomb entry points. It also shows that the land had caved inwards post strike, whereas the tunnel entrances had been sealed with dirt.
 
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Seems like things are likely to escalate:

Saudi Arabia is on a high security alert following strikes by the U.S. on Iran, two sources with knowledge of the matter tells Reuters

Bahrain and Kuwait have also made preparations on Sunday for the possibility that the Iran conflict might spread to their territory.
 
Iran used medium-range ballistic missiles Kheibar Shekan for the first time in a morning attack on Israel on June 22. The Kheibar missile is 11.4 meters long, weighs 6.3 tons, has a warhead of up to 550 kg, and has a range of up to 2,000 km. 30 missiles, including other types, were fired at the cities of Tel Aviv and Haifa. According to media reports, some of the missiles were shot down by air defense systems of Israel, the United States, and other countries. Iran did not report the targets it struck, but judging by the destruction, many objects were hit by the missiles. According to Israeli media reports, there are wounded and dead.

 
The inexorable march towards WW-III. When we will stumble and tumble into it - God only knows.

Israel attacked Iran because it perceived the regime to be at its weakest now, and herself in the strongest position.

The whole Middle East has a strong tribalist mindset, however much rich it may be - it is rooted in their history. Morally speaking, Israel need not have attacked Iran, but it was paranoid about Iran's eventual future power and antagonistic mindset.

The political machinery of the Ayatollahs made itself hated enough amongst a significant section of the population - this section still has memories of how much better economically they were, how good their science and arts were and regarded by the others. So many other unfortunate families were on the receiving end. Otherwise why would there be so many people willing to betray the regime? The regime is reaping what it sowed.

Iran won't surrender. It cannot conduct precision and effective strikes against Israel without causing significant civilian deaths. So IRGC's strikes will cause civilian deaths. They will block the Strait of Hormuz, the Houthis will attack the ships. So this will be a pretext for larger strikes against Iran. Notice how Israel stopped striking the Iranian oil refineries - directly harming the economic lifeline of civilians is a strict no-no.

USA under Trump has proved itself to be an unreliable story-teller.

For the US it was a great opportunity to remove Chinese and Russian ties with Iran. Except Iran, the whole of ME is in their pocket. They could not afford to have an antagonistic Iran, one that was close to the superpower-in-waiting. So regime change is the way to go.

How will the Chinese react? Russia? Will they be able to make the ME Islamic countries undertake actions inimical to American and Jewish interests? This is a recipie for further chaos.

About Pakistan, what do we say about its supine military leadership and its pathetic civilian leaders - the less said the better.

However there are ominous signs for India. The Pakistani Army will against create unrest in Jammu and Kashmir. We will again react. US will be distracted and unwilling to stop Pakistan since its support for controlling any crisis in the ME is important. Additionally, its good for the US to see us tied up against Pakistan and less able to grow economically. A prolonged conflict will damage us significantly.
 
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Inspite of what the Iranian IRGC is saying, I think the B-2s have done their part well. The physics, the material engineering, and the striking methodology of GBU-57 seems to be sound. I doubt the satellite imagery will show a lot of surface level damage. Hence, confirmation will most likely be done by covert assets of the Israelis' as well as their informants present within the regime. The GBU series has a good track record so far. Let's see what the IMINT says. Even if the facility is not obliterated, it should be rendered useless for further enrichment.
Its all drama. I don't know what the Americans and globalists have actually planned.
 
Israel and US think that Iran will surrender, I don’t understand what drives their optimism
I agree. The IRGC will not surrender. The Iranian MEA held a press conference in Ankara (I believe) a few hours ago. FM Araghchi says the regime is not willing to sit on the table with Israel as of now.
 
The inexorable march towards WW-III. When we will stumble and tumble into it - God only knows.

Israel attacked Iran because it perceived the regime to be at its weakest now, and herself in the strongest position.

The whole Middle East has a strong tribalist mindset, however much rich it may be - it is rooted in their history. Morally speaking, Israel need not have attacked Iran, but it was paranoid about Iran's eventual future power and antagonistic mindset.

The political machinery of the Ayatollahs made itself hated enough amongst a significant section of the population - this section still has memories of how much better economically they were, how good their science and arts were and regarded by the others. So many other unfortunate families were on the receiving end. Otherwise why would there be so many people willing to betray the regime? The regime is reaping what it sowed.

Iran won't surrender. It cannot conduct precision and effective strikes against Israel without causing significant civilian deaths. So IRGC's strikes will cause civilian deaths. They will block the Strait of Hormuz, the Houthis will attack the ships. So this will be a pretext for larger strikes against Iran. Notice how Israel stopped striking the Iranian oil refineries - directly harming the economic lifeline of civilians is a strict no-no.

USA under Trump has proved itself to be an unreliable story-teller.

For the US it was a great opportunity to remove Chinese and Russian ties with Iran. Except Iran, the whole of ME is in their pocket. They could not afford to have an antagonistic Iran, one that was close to the superpower-in-waiting. So regime change is the way to go.

How will the Chinese react? Russia? Will they be able to make the ME Islamic countries undertake actions inimical to American and Jewish interests? This is a recipie for further chaos.

About Pakistan, what do we say about its supine military leadership and its pathetic civilian leaders - the less said the better.

However there are ominous signs for India. The Pakistani Army will against create unrest in Jammu and Kashmir. We will again react. US will be distracted and unwilling to stop Pakistan since its support for controlling any crisis in the ME is important. Additionally, its good for the US to see us tied up against Pakistan and less able to grow economically. A prolonged conflict will damage us significantly.
Why China is sitting quietly. They can ask North Korea to attack South Korea, and China can engage Taiwan now. It is a golden opportunity in my opinion, as USA will be busy in Iran war.
 
By not opening multiple fronts for the USA and Israel, Axis countries are making the same mistake that Iran and its proxies made when Israel was taking them down one by one.
When regime change was happening in Syria, Iran should have helped them.