The IAF was probably waiting for the conclusion of the MMRCA instead.
I don't know to what extent we will have S-500 tech. But we likely have a production deal because they were discussing about ToT and stuff.
The S-400 is Air Force’s answer to depleting fighter strength. It’s time to seal the deal
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The IAF was probably waiting for the conclusion of the MMRCA instead.
I don't know to what extent we will have S-500 tech. But we likely have a production deal because they were discussing about ToT and stuff.
The IAF and MoD want the AMCA to start after LCA's FOC is done and dusted.
Rafale/FGFA will come in years later, when we actually get stuck making something that we can't. For early development flights, we don't need help.
J-20s supposedly have ~1,800 km combat radius
From Coco Island to Visakhapatnam:
From Coco Island to Chennai:
Mali to Bengaluru:
Mali to Karwar:
I hope Chinese use these islands. Brahmos will get some good target practice.
Do you know how far is Coco island from Andaman Islands? Brahmos launched from Andaman will hit it in couple of minutes.
Have you seen Male airport? Even if some stupid Maldivian government agrees to let Chinese use it's land to attack India, where exactly they will park the fighters and store the logistics?
I have not even added Srilanka to the list which would turnout to be a lot worse for South Indian cities and bases.
One does not plan based on optimistic assumptions. All potential risks and outcomes need to be considered and mitigated.
All Chinese string of pearls need to be considered for both defensive and offensive planning purposes.
So you are willing to put the entire Indian defense strategy at the mercy of Indian bases in Andaman & Nicobar islands?
So if those fall to the enemy then India is gone?
None of the areas that are geographically close to India are a threat to India. All those countries know the consequences of such an action.
There are only two threats to South India when we talk about the Chinese. It's the PLARF with long range missiles and the PLAN with their ships. Against PLARF, the S-400 is useless. Against PLAN, as I said, we need ships to counter their ships. Their carriers will be more focused on the IN than civilian targets in the South.
If you have doubts, you only need to look at Russia's placements of the S-400.
Su 30 Mki armed with brahmos will render all Chinese infrastructure in indian ocean effectively useless ...
SU-30MKI with Brahmos and Rafale with meteor are fine from offensive strategy perspective but how do they help with the defensive strategy? Unless you are saying we do not need any defenses as we have such an awesome offensive capability. If that is so why do we need to procure even these limited S-400s? The same offensive strategy still holds good for North too. Shouldn't we spend the $5 Billion on more Rafales and SU-30 MKI rather than on S-400s?
None of the areas that are geographically close to India are a threat to India. All those countries know the consequences of such an action.
There are only two threats to South India when we talk about the Chinese. It's the PLARF with long range missiles and the PLAN with their ships. Against PLARF, the S-400 is useless. Against PLAN, as I said, we need ships to counter their ships. Their carriers will be more focused on the IN than civilian targets in the South.
If you have doubts, you only need to look at Russia's placements of the S-400.
These Chinese pearls know the consequences yet they keep flirting with Chinese. Isn't that intriguing?
All the defense and military agreements means nothing but pieces of useless papers when it matters. What really matters is the defensive and offensive strengths and capabilities of Indian Armed forces to take the battle to China and send shivers down the spines of the people who may even have second thoughts of entertaining the enemies of India on their territories.
Lastly, India is not Russia. Even the combined might of US & NATO does not dare to take on Russia. Russia does what they want when it comes to its national security. No other country even comes close to them.
And the aircraft carriers, the 10+ destroyers, 20+ frigates and the Su-30 MKIs.
Andaman bases are the first line of defense. Apart from that, all the platforms mentioned above are capable of destroying the attack bases you listed.
If all of these are gone, then we are screwed anyway. What exactly the S-400s will do then??
Will Andamans have S-400 cover? If yes, that leave only 4 for rest of the India. If no, then you are making the most important bases in Andamans as defense less?
Let's not get blind with patriotism. You can go ahead and compare PLAN expansion plans with IN expansion plans.
Did you intend to marry every girl you ever flirted with
? It's the same scenario with countries.This is what 5 batteries would cover. Only barely covers land borders with Pakistan and China. No cover for South, Andamans or Laskhshadweep.
Who is blind here? I don't see any logical counter argument here.
Btw, S-400 is not the only missile defense we are going to acquire. There are/ will be layers of air defense systems like QRSAM, Akash, MRSAM and XRSAM in future.
One each for Mumbai, Delhi and Gujrat ( Jamnagar and Kandla), one for Punjab border and one for Sikim.
So you are fine with the most important strategic tri-services bases in Andamans being defense less?