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Infowarrior

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Dude I understand your love for modi but for god sake stop posting irrevelevent garbage just for sake of it. If your hands are itching to post this video start a new thread.
If you agree/disagree with what kerala cm has said please comment in this thread or kindly stay out of it.
My video was totally relevant, it showed how stupid is Pradhan sevak Modi, he does not even know the population of India.

Why this statement from Kerala CM...
India was member of non-aligned movement, we maintained equal distance between Western and Soviet block. With the collapse of Soviet union, India started moving towards US(after Israel helped India in Kargil war).

If India moves towards US, India's strategic space will decrease. China is no longer a communist nation, in fact China is the most capitalist nation on earth. Kerala CM asked Modi to maintain India's strategic Independence. this news is nothing but propaganda... People can see through this now.

Why India is moving towards US, ? for IT, outsourcing and technology transfer. As long as India supports Israel with weapon purchases, US will allow outsourcing.

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My video was totally relevant, it showed how stupid is Pradhan sevak Modi, he does not even know the population of India.

Why this statement from Kerala CM...
India was member of non-aligned movement, we maintained equal distance between Western and Soviet block. With the collapse of Soviet union, India started moving towards US(after Israel helped India in Kargil war).

If India moves towards US, India's strategic space will decrease. China is no longer a communist nation, in fact China is the most capitalist nation on earth. Kerala CM asked Modi to maintain India's strategic Independence. this news is nothing but propaganda... People can see through this now.

Why India is moving towards US, ? for IT, outsourcing and technology transfer. As long as India supports Israel with weapon purchases, US will allow outsourcing.

trump changes h1b visa rules --- jan 3 2018
Trump administration's H-1B visa norms changes to hit 5 lakh Indian workers in US
india cancels Israel weapons deal --- jan 3 2018
India has cancelled $500 million defence deal, says Israeli arms firm - Times of India

jan 5 2018
H1B visa rule change: US Congress members oppose Trump administration's plan, say it will 'tear families apart' - Firstpost
Relief for H-1B visa holders! Trump administration rejects deportation plan reports
Open a thread on Indian foreign policy and strategic planning.... it will be an interesting one.... do research and start one.....

Pinarayi vijayans statement and your point is totally different and has no correlation.... Will talk about it in a later stage....
 

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If tomorrow central government propose governor rule in kerala and WB I would be first one to support that move. For gow long we can tolerate these anti national left and mamta didi.

You do realise that Mamata and the Communists are most bitterly opposed to each other? But their resistance to the RSS is at about the same level, which presumably makes them fair game to people like you.
 
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Vicky

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If tomorrow central government propose governor rule in kerala and WB I would be first one to support that move. For gow long we can tolerate these anti national left and mamta didi.

WB should support Mamata didi atleast for next 10 years. Mamata is 100 times better than these leftist goons who have destroyed the intellectual capacity of Bengal and its industry. She has been at the receiving end of commies for decades and she is currently obliterating the Left in Bengal. She should be left free till she destroys left ideology in Bengal.
And this is not the 60's and 70's where the central governments can fire the state govts at will. Whether you like it or not, they are democratically elected no matter what.

Moreover there is nothing Pinayari Vijayan can be prosecuted. Indian PM does not call China as our enemy. We have a policy of trust, but verify and verify with them. I am not saying what he said is right. They prostrate before CCP is known for all. But freedom of speech is something which is given to him as given to anyone in India. And a good percentage of Kerala's population actually will welcome this statement and vote for him.
 

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by Subhash Chandra and Amitabh Tiwari - May 25, 2016, 10:08 am
  • BJP increasingly displacing Left as the Hindu party of the state.
    With the BJP at its current peak, the next five years are crucial to build on the momentum touching the 25-30 percent mark in Kerala and pitch to establish the first BJP Government in the State.
    Lack of strong leader on the ground, high literacy levels meaning BJP can’t play the polarization card to the hilt and perception among voters that BJP is still a Hindi heartland party remain as challenges though.
BJP finally opened its account in Kerala with veteran leader O.P. Rajagopal winning from Nemom. In Manjeshwar, it lost by a whisker (89 votes). BJP led NDA recorded c.15 percent vote share almost tripling its share compared to 2011 assembly polls.

The social combination in alliance with SNDP / BJDS helped the alliance finish second in another nine seats. This is despite a violent competition with the Communists and with both the UDF and LDF aiming fire at the BJP. In many seats, BJP succeeded in converting a bipolar into a triangular contest having sucked out both Ezhava and Nair votes from both the LDF and UDF. The big question is,Can BJP win Kerala in 2021?’ ‘Will Kerala be the second South India state to go saffron?’

Factors which could work in BJP’s favour-

1. BJP increasingly displacing Left as the Hindu party of the state

Traditionally Left has been the Hindu party of Kerala enjoying the support of a large portion of Ezhavas and other Dalits along with sizeable number of upper castes. These groups account for most of the Hindu population in the state.

The Congress on the other hand has been supported by the minorities with sizeable number of Nairs and Dalits. In the last two elections, the BJP has expanded its vote base from its hardcore voters to impact both the Left as well as the Congress. Around three-fourth of BJP’s vote share came from Ezhavas and Nairs.

2. State has always voted for change

For the past three decades since 1982, the state has been ruled by Congress and Left alternatively for full five year terms. In 2011 the trend was almost broken due to the mercurial Achuthanandan. The Congress led UDF scraped through with a result of 72-68.

While Achuthanandan led the popularity ratings and a majority people were happy with his government’s performance, the LDF lost due to Kerala voter’s penchant for change. 56 percent respondents in CSDS post poll survey opined Change is beneficial for development”. In an atmosphere where people want change and with Congress weakening nationally, it is likely that the BJP could be an important beneficiary of the anti-incumbent mood in 2021.

3. Further inroads into Hindu votes will increase vote share

There could be a sea change in voting patterns by 2021. BJP with its aggressive policies and programs could woo a larger number of Nair and Ezhavas votes from both Congress and LDF significantly boosting its vote share from the current alliance share of 15 percent. This could add another 10-15 percent to the BJP kitty.

With a strong push for Dalits and strategy to woo Christian community in line with Goa, BJP can reach the 25-30 percent mark which is enough to put it in contention given that 30 percent vote share in a tripartite environment can deliver numerous seats (30-40) for the BJP


4. Historic precedent

Two States serve as historic precedents. In Karnataka a combination of Urban, Border districts, Lingayats and Upper Castes helped BJP eventually notch up a majority in 2009. Once the party crossed the 20 percent mark in 1991, it went down only twice below that number in 10 elections.

In Assam, a strong focus on the immigration issue along with wider economic issues has helped consolidate the Hindu vote in favor of the majority. The learning in both cases is that given its differentiated offer and better re-election rates across states, BJP is gradually able to push itself to the centre stage of the politics in any state over time.

Central to the success in Karnataka in 2008 and Assam in 2016 is availability of a strong local leader who is able to stand on his own right versus other CM candidates. In many ways, the work of the local BJP and RSS will have to be supplemented by a strong leader on the ground.



5. LDF and UDF alliances are not written in Stone

Given that there are a number of parties in each of the alliances (LDF and UDF) it is likely that by 2021, one or many of them (including IUML) will be open to doing deals with the BJP. In the 2016 election, 40 seats were won by parties other than the Communists and the Congress. With about 25-30 percent of the votes, BJP on its own could deliver 30-40 seats in 2021 making it an attractive proposition for the ‘others’ to ditch their alliance partners and join a BJP Government in Kerala.

6. BJP’s strength nationally likely to bring Communists and Congress together

Despite the fiasco in West Bengal where the Left-Congress alliance failed to make an impact, the stride of BJP nationally means that Communists and Congress will need to collaborate more in the future to stop the Modi juggernaut. They are even more likely to challenge the BJP both in Kerala and outside after these polls.

A pan India formal understanding if it materializes (and is the need of the hour) can be used by BJP in the state to target LDF and UDF pitching they are the same sides of a coin. Even during these polls there were reports of under the table deal between LDF and UDF to ensure BJP doesn’t open account in Kerala.

To sum up, with the BJP at its current peak, the next five years are crucial to build on the momentum touching the 25-30 percent mark in Kerala and pitch to establish the first BJP Government in the State.

Lack of strong leader on the ground, high literacy levels meaning BJP can’t play the polarization card to the hilt and perception among voters that BJP is still a Hindi heartland party remain as challenges though.

Can BJP Form The Government In Kerala In 2021?
 
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It cant. Will take long if it were to win Kerala. 15 years if they stay the current course of growth in voter base.
Second it needs the Christians on its side to win the state. I dont think it can win 20pc votes in next election. I will call it their victory if they can maintain their vote share won in 2016.
 

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Doubt it happens anytime soon, but it doesn't really matter either. BJP is now capable of challenging for power in every single state either by itself or in alliance, with the exception of Kerala (and as long as the taint of the SAD continues to rub off on BJP in Punjab, their chances aren't great there either). Bengal and Tamil Nadu were the two great "final frontiers" earlier - but BJP has essentially been remote controlling AIADMK, whose merger they engineered, and the Rajinikanth factor will also be there from 2019 onwards, and they are growing in leaps and bounds in Bengal where they have poached Mukul Roy and will likely have many more defections in the future.

As long as BJP continues to grow, challenge and win everywhere else, Kerala is free to keep alternating between Congress and Communists - it's pretty much irrelevant.
 
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North Indian engineering students in Kerala allege principal gave beef cutlets claiming it was vegetarian


North Indian engineering students in Kerala allege principal gave beef cutlets claiming it was vegetarian



A group of students from Cochin University College of Engineering Kuttanadu, Aleppey, has approached the District Magistrate against the principal for allegedly hurting the religious sentiments of the North Indian students by providing them beef cutlets claiming that it was vegetarian.


Students in their letter have stated that this was done after one of them approached the district collector in connection with the suspension of a student on January 23 by principal - Dr Sunil Kumar.

They alleged that the student was suspended after he held a Saraswati Pooja inside the campus without permission.

"We believe this is directly linked to the Saraswati Pooja incident. Since his (principal) ego was not satisfied, he made a deliberate attempt to malign our dignity and hurt our religious sentiments," the students lamented in the letter.

The students termed the principal's conduct unethical as according to them, Kumar was aware that they were vegetarians.

"The students are totally shaken while some are depressed by the incident," the letter further read.

The principal has responded saying that the programme was not conducted by the college and the catering was arranged by the students themselves.

"We did not know what was in the menu. It must be a mistake from the caterers," Dr Kumar said.
 
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It cant. Will take long if it were to win Kerala. 15 years if they stay the current course of growth in voter base.
Second it needs the Christians on its side to win the state. I dont think it can win 20pc votes in next election. I will call it their victory if they can maintain their vote share won in 2016.
I think many Christians are mentally preparing for it now. :unsure:


The OBC SC ST's of Kerala didn't fall for beef ban call, they are competing with Congress by holding beef parties. RSS-BJP can't subjugate them.

@nair there won't be a Yogi Adityanath(Thakur) in Kerala, no shortcuts like Hindutwa or Love Jihad will work.
 
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actually no one gives a damn. whether BJP or congress ... sab mile hai. One openly loots while the other gives you a very big bucket , but with holes.
 

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My video was totally relevant, it showed how stupid is Pradhan sevak Modi, he does not even know the population of India.

Why this statement from Kerala CM...
India was member of non-aligned movement, we maintained equal distance between Western and Soviet block. With the collapse of Soviet union, India started moving towards US(after Israel helped India in Kargil war).

If India moves towards US, India's strategic space will decrease. China is no longer a communist nation, in fact China is the most capitalist nation on earth. Kerala CM asked Modi to maintain India's strategic Independence. this news is nothing but propaganda... People can see through this now.

Why India is moving towards US, ? for IT, outsourcing and technology transfer. As long as India supports Israel with weapon purchases, US will allow outsourcing.

trump changes h1b visa rules --- jan 3 2018
Trump administration's H-1B visa norms changes to hit 5 lakh Indian workers in US
india cancels Israel weapons deal --- jan 3 2018
India has cancelled $500 million defence deal, says Israeli arms firm - Times of India

jan 5 2018
H1B visa rule change: US Congress members oppose Trump administration's plan, say it will 'tear families apart' - Firstpost
Relief for H-1B visa holders! Trump administration rejects deportation plan reports

NAM was dead and burried after the 1962 war, and India decisively moved towards Russia after that. Now after Crimea Russia is leaning towards China, and we are realigning our foreign policy to suit our interests.
 
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On the topic: nothing new here, commies supported China even during a war, they are communists living in India, their loyalty was always with the communist countries. Ideologically they are foreigners with Indian citizenship.


Pan-national movements and ideologies are inherently antithetical to nation states and nationalism.
 
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