Russian Armed Forces : Pictures & Updates

[randomradio]

Damn, can't believe this thread was dead for a long time. Anyway:

«Армата» дороговата: в правительстве признали, что новая платформа не станет массовой

Новые танки «Армата» получились дорогими, эффективнее модернизировать старую технику, заявил вице-премьер Юрий Борисов. Он также добавил, что огромным спросом на рынке пользуется Т-72

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TLDR; as I was saying in an unrelated thread few months ago...for the Russians, now is not the time for expensive white elephant programs which may or may not become available in sufficient numbers a decade down the line. Now's the time for cheap, proven systems that require minimal, if any, changes to existing infrastructure, logistics & training regimens. To quote myself "less T-14s and more T-72B3s."

The tank wasn't ready then. And yes, the Russians preferred to dump money at proven systems rather than this white elephant. The Armata will become important during the rearmament that will happen around 2025 instead. We could easily expect 500+ vehicles supplied every year, perhaps even a thousand.

The article is politically motivated as well, 'cause the tank is frankly very scary to NATO. It renders all of their current anti-tank capabilities moot.

This also serves as an indication that Russians will not be in any shape to invest the required amounts in programs like T-14, Su-57, Su-75, S-500, etc. Which means for the foreseeable future, a lot of those programs can be effectively understood to be in cold storage. Limited series production at best.


@randomradio

Depends on the time frame we are talking about. Until the war is over, it's gonna have to be the old horses. Medvedev recently claimed they will manufacture 1500 new tanks this year, presumably T-90Ms. We could see that repeating next year or perhaps the year after, before production shifts to the new stuff.

In any case, if they build 1000-2000 tanks a year, then 100-200 Armatas a year will go unnoticed for some time.

 

[indicisivedivide]

The tank wasn't ready then. And yes, the Russians preferred to dump money at proven systems rather than this white elephant. The Armata will become important during the rearmament that will happen around 2025 instead. We could easily expect 500+ vehicles supplied every year, perhaps even a thousand.

The article is politically motivated as well, 'cause the tank is frankly very scary to NATO. It renders all of their current anti-tank capabilities moot.



Depends on the time frame we are talking about. Until the war is over, it's gonna have to be the old horses. Medvedev recently claimed they will manufacture 1500 new tanks this year, presumably T-90Ms. We could see that repeating next year or perhaps the year after, before production shifts to the new stuff.

In any case, if they build 1000-2000 tanks a year, then 100-200 Armatas a year will go unnoticed for some time.

The tank is not ready yet . STOP huffing Russia copium. They will be refurbishing 1500 t-72, t-55 and t-62 not 1500 t-90m.

 

[randomradio]

The tank is not ready yet . STOP huffing Russia copium. They will be refurbishing 1500 t-72, t-55 and t-62 not 1500 t-90m.

It's in LRIP.

Russia Orders 132 T-14 Armata Main Battle Tanks and T-15 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

The Russian defense ministry signed a contract with tank manufacturer Uralvagonzavod for 132 T-14s and T-15s on August 22.

thediplomat.com

“Today, a contract has been signed for 132 T-14 and T-15 vehicles,” Krivoruchko was quoted as saying by TASS news agency on August 22.

That's effectively 2 battalions each of T-14 and T-15s.

As for 1500 tanks in 1 year, they could do that even before the war started. Open source info was 50+ per month of upgrades and 20+ per month of new, but it was more than that, and that's been increased drastically since the war started. The pre-war numbers were not at full capacity with full employment. Basically, 3 new factories have been created since then and army repair depots have already contributed a lot to tank upgrades.

Anyway, it takes 1.5-2 years to expand and start delivery of new tanks during wartime. So it makes sense for large numbers to become available as time passes.

 

[Parthu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044807336103944242

As per Ukraine's intelligence assessment, Russia's current production rate of Iskander SRBMs is 720 rounds per year.

 

[lmaoxd]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044807336103944242

As per Ukraine's intelligence assessment, Russia's current production rate of Iskander SRBMs is 720 rounds per year.

war time vs peace time. very different things. I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when the US gets into a proper full scale war.

 

[babablacksheep]

war time vs peace time. very different things. I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when the US gets into a proper full scale war.

It won't in Iran war.

 

[lmaoxd]

It won't in Iran war.

iran war is a small scale war on the US grade of things. Im talking about a proper war like vietnam or a one vs china(which would be perhaps the greatest ever fought outside of the World wars).

 

[Parthu]

war time vs peace time. very different things. I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when the US gets into a proper full scale war.

The US is doing its own ramp-up for various rounds.

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