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New Rheinmetall Panther Tank
New KF51 Panther tank is a (potential) replacement for German Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank. Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger presented a tank that is considered to become the successor to the Leopard …historyandwarfare.wordpress.com
Overview I wrote, not sure if I should add something.
Isn't MGCS not even in development yet? From what I understand there isn't anything to scuttle just yet, and if MGCS does not go forward, Panther might be a good alternative.This looks like a Leo 2 hull mated to a new turret. So no armour capsule. It looks like a waste of time, especially the extra space used up for... nobody. With a very likely low production run, the 130mm gun will run out of ammo after a few days.
I hope they build a more modern tank with a new hull and better crew protection. This tank shouldn't scuttle MGCS. In fact, it could be a testbed for MGCS.
Isn't MGCS not even in development yet? From what I understand there isn't anything to scuttle just yet, and if MGCS does not go forward, Panther might be a good alternative.
Obviously if it has active defence it has a radar, it also has drones to scan for infantry before they even get in radar range. And the active protection works against KE rounds too.This looks like a Leo 2 hull mated to a new turret. So no armour capsule. It looks like a waste of time, especially the extra space used up for... nobody. With a very likely low production run, the 130mm gun will run out of ammo after a few days.
I hope they build a more modern tank with a new hull and better crew protection. This tank shouldn't scuttle MGCS. In fact, it could be a testbed for MGCS.
No radar?
Isn't Armata's turret basically unarmored?People are probably underestimating the integrated drone capability too.
And this armoured capsule BS is just like when Russian babbled on about the Shtora system before it was found to be worthless. Seems to me that the armour capsule is just making up for the otherwise lack of armour.
Also to be noticed is how far the KF-51's turret armour comes forward of the breach relative to an Armata.
Relatively speaking, yes. People harp on about how the crew and ammo are separate below, but once the turret is gone, the tank is just a lump of junk anyway.Isn't Armata's turret basically unarmored?
Yeah. My own idea for a tank has unmanned turret, but turret is still armored because that is where the ammunition is. I don't think KF51 does that, though?Relatively speaking, yes. People harp on about how the crew and ammo are separate below, but once the turret is gone, the tank is just a lump of junk anyway.
The turret on the KF51 appears armoured to me.Yeah. My own idea for a tank has unmanned turret, but turret is still armored because that is where the ammunition is. I don't think KF51 does that, though?
Relatively speaking, yes. People harp on about how the crew and ammo are separate below, but once the turret is gone, the tank is just a lump of junk anyway.
That doesn't even make sense. A KE round will go through any part and if you destroy the turret the tank is nothing.An unmanned turret makes APFSDS largely useless.
I meant the unmanned part.The turret on the KF51 appears armoured to me.