Envelope can obviously be increased but most planes operate in 1.2-1.4 Mach regime it seems even the high speed air superiority fighters like the f-15 because of engine wear and tear.
Agreed. Mostly the f-35 will be subsonic, rarely going supersonic and seldom M1.6. Most likely, a flight test after maintenance. Although they say the F-35 is M1.2 without AB, I don't know how valuable that will be. You are air friction, heating the frame and open to other IR sensors.Envelope can obviously be increased but most planes operate in 1.2-1.4 Mach regime it seems even the high speed air superiority fighters like the f-15 because of engine wear and tear.
Agreed. Mostly the f-35 will be subsonic, rarely going supersonic and seldom M1.6. Most likely, a flight test after maintenance. Although they say the F-35 is M1.2 without AB, I don't know how valuable that will be. You are air friction, heating the frame and open to other IR sensors.
Wrong. F-35A/B/C top speed is mach 1.6 with a full internal AG load. F-35C anf F-35B pilots have been told not to exceed mach 1.3 for F-35C and mach 1.2 for F-35B because of peeling of coating that only happened one to those two fighters when they were being flown to extreme edges of their envelope at 50k and mach 1.6. They tried replicating it but the coating did not peel off when thy tried numerous times so they ordered pilots not to exceed those speed for a certain amount of time... during peacetime of course.It seems like most modern day fighters are limited to mach 1.6. The F-35 seem to be limited at mach 1.2-1.4
Even the f-15 mach 2.5 number is rarely used.
Rafale A has made Mach 2 using only one engine... Official G limit is 9G and the plane is able to go up to 11.5 G with structural limit at 16G...
The way we use it allow us to increase it service life from 7500 h to 9000 h and it will probably exceed 12000 h when we will be able to better study how it has aged. It's why we limit it during peace and crise time, but not during war time, if needed.
By the way, the picture showing a 760 Nm combat radius for F-35 in for an Air to Air internal configuration, so it has to be compared with the picture where the Rafale is with an air superiority configuration and a combat radius of 920 Nm with two more missile compare to F-35.
The F-35, while not technically a "supercruising" aircraft, can maintain Mach 1.2 for a dash of 150 miles without using fuel-gulping afterburners.It's not mach 1.2 without AB, what it does is use the afterburner to cross the transonic regime, switches off its AB and then cruises at mach 1.2 for merely 150Km. Real supercruise requires you to cross the transonic regime without AB, and maintain a high speed enough to be tactically relevant. For example, the Su-57 is being made to supercruise above mach 1.5 for 1500Km. The F-35's so-called supercruise is totally irrelevant and even the guy says that.
Lol. Or could it be you're so full of shit you can't convince anyone of your bull shit? Duhssault is clear the french plane (clean config) top speed is mach 1.8 which means when you start hanging missiles and tanks it's much slower. french plane M (clean config) top speed is mach 1.6 meaning it's slower with tanks and missiles. Don't get salty and uppity that your plane is heavy and underpowered (According to Safran CEO)You are too stupid and in too much bad faith for me to teach you how to calculate the range of the Rafale and that of the F-35 and why the Rafale is always capable of reaching Mach 1.8 whatever the weight of its under-wing payload unless one of these payloads is itself limited to a lower speed.
The maximum ordnance capacity is 18,000 lbs and the sum of the ordnance weights shown on this graph is 22,300 lbs, so we will have to remove 4,300 lbs from the description of what the F-35 can carry.
Yes, by all means do a comparison of the Rafale and the F-35 with 2x 2,000lb, let me know how it goes.The maximum ordnance capacity is 18,000 lbs and the sum of the ordnance weights shown on this graph is 22,300 lbs, so we will have to remove 4,300 lbs from the description of what the F-35 can carry.
As the aim is to demonstrate that the F-35 has more range than the Rafale, we cannot remove fuel. You can't take out the air-to-air missiles either, because they are not profitable for the imagination and are too light to fulfill the contract. You can't take out the cannon either, because it's integrated into the structure, so you have to take out two bombs.
The description therefore becomes "The F-35 would be 26,500 lb of fuel with 2x 2,000 lb and missiles", which is what is usually written.
It should be noted that the F-35 also loses its stealth with this load and is therefore inferior in all areas to the Rafale.
We will now be able to calculate whether this sacrifice at least allows it to have a better range.
Well, let's go step by step and first some explanations on the method:It is late: I have prepared the evaluation and will clean it up tomorrow.