Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

[randomradio]

Just do it. I am sick and tired of waiting. If you think Pakistan is responsible for attack then start whatever you want but do it now.

It will happen when we are ready, naturally.

Thing is India will never listen to Pakistan under BJP government. I am sure friendship is not possible under BJP. Every attack on kashmir quickly blamed on Pakistan and we also need to prepare ourselves for future because this same situation can comeback again and again.

Not true. The BJP gave Pakistan many chances. Remember Modi visited Pakistan and was rewarded with an attack on Pathankot in return?

PM Modi lands in Lahore on a surprise visit, meets Pak PM Nawaz Sharif

Modi was accorded a red carpet welcome as PM's special IAF Boeing 737 plane made a smooth touchdown at 4.20 local time(4.50 IST).

indianexpress.com

Dec 15 visit, Jan 2nd attack.

Then came Uri, then Pulwama. Not to mention 100+ Hindu deaths in Kashmir, not to mention hundreds more all over India since then.

There is no such thing as Pakistan, only Pakistan Army. And there has been no friendship possible ever since Vajpayee's bus journey was rewarded with the Kargil War. Should I remind you of the Parliament attack in 2001?

It's a "you" problem, not a "me" or a "we" problem. You have to remove PA and fix your system, then you can talk about international relations.

As for Congress, they have actively worked against Hindu/Indian interests since the very beginning, so it's natural you will find some friendship in them. But most of the Indian people have rejected them.

And water? who stops water? This is unacceptable for us.

The IWT was unfair right from the start. The treaty was so stupid, it's like it was deliberately designed to fail. This is a self-created problem.

Omar Abdullah is completely in support of IWT's abrogation. That tells you all you need to know.

 

[arsalan3345]

It will happen when we are ready, naturally.



Not true. The BJP gave Pakistan many chances. Remember Modi visited Pakistan and was rewarded with an attack on Pathankot in return?

PM Modi lands in Lahore on a surprise visit, meets Pak PM Nawaz Sharif

Modi was accorded a red carpet welcome as PM's special IAF Boeing 737 plane made a smooth touchdown at 4.20 local time(4.50 IST).

indianexpress.com

Dec 15 visit, Jan 2nd attack.

Then came Uri, then Pulwama. Not to mention 100+ Hindu deaths in Kashmir, not to mention hundreds more all over India since then.

There is no such thing as Pakistan, only Pakistan Army. And there has been no friendship possible ever since Vajpayee's bus journey was rewarded with the Kargil War. Should I remind you of the Parliament attack in 2001?

It's a "you" problem, not a "me" or a "we" problem. You have to remove PA and fix your system, then you can talk about international relations.

As for Congress, they have actively worked against Hindu/Indian interests since the very beginning, so it's natural you will find some friendship in them. But most of the Indian people have rejected them.



The IWT was unfair right from the start. The treaty was so stupid, it's like it was deliberately designed to fail. This is a self-created problem.

Omar Abdullah is completely in support of IWT's abrogation. That tells you all you need to know.

Who is omar abdullah? the treaty was signed by both countries and not some omar abdullah. I remember the visit of your PM. No evidence was given after pathankot as well. Whatever we received from you was blame that this organization is involved and not real time actual evidence. You are blaming us since 1990. I mean 1990. it's 2025 now. I think water treaty should be respected. We have people on both sides who has relatives in each others country. We can always talk but the process of communication is denied from your side since 2015. Why this rude behaviour? I mean we are also a country. It's not like we aren't important. Many countries still need us because of our geographical and strategic importance. This attack, if it happens, is unacceptable. A country doesn't want war and asking you to talk. At least sit and listen. You only want war. There is no talk, only war. From the last 12 days, almost every person related to your armed forces visited PM Modi. at the end of the day, why all this? Why now?

 

[randomradio]

With context of the drills planned by MHA, what is the furthest Pak can hit inside India with their ballistic missiles ? Delhi is definitely at risk of being hit, what else in terms of city/infrastructure?

Only Delhi, Mumbai, and possibly Jodhpur have BMD, perhaps a few other bases too, like Gwalior. The rest are gonna have to eat missiles. Pakistan can hit all of India.

Had the govt not wasted time, BMD P2 would have been ready by now and established in other major cities.

 

[alohaes]

Only Delhi, Mumbai, and possibly Jodhpur have BMD, perhaps a few other bases too, like Gwalior. The rest are gonna have to eat missiles. Pakistan can hit all of India.

Had the govt not wasted time, BMD P2 would have been ready by now and established in other major cities.

Damn bro fr? What about a city like hyderabad? They wouldn't dare to hit this place cuz a lot of foreign folks work in such IT hubs of the country

 

[randomradio]

Damn bro fr? What about a city like hyderabad? They wouldn't dare to hit this place cuz a lot of foreign folks work in such IT hubs of the country

A nuclear war is quite unlikely. I mean, where is the PA gonna run and hide after starting one? And who's gonna explain to the Pakistani public that every single one of them is now a military target and can be killed?

But if it happens, yeah, only a few cities and HQs have "terminal" BMD protection, the rest go up in smoke and ashes.

Our cities can absorb their small nukes, so the big ones will not be destroyed. But areas like the central business district, economic hubs, airports, railway stations, water and electricity hubs etc can be attacked. Secondary effects like overpressure and heat waves from a few nukes per city can kill a few million in every major city.

Use the Nukemap to figure it out.

NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein

NUKEMAP is a website for visualizing the effects of nuclear detonations.

nuclearsecrecy.com

With Pakistan's best nukes, secondary effects like third degree burns can go up to 3 km from ground zero. Overpressure can destroy buildings up to 2.5 km. Outside 3 km, it should be somewhat safe as long as you are indoors and your house/building is sturdy, like made of concrete. Radiation will clear out in a few days.

If ASAT has been deployed in sufficient numbers, then "mid-course" interception is possible, and the nukes can be stopped outside the planet. This system can protect all Indian cities located far from the border, like Hyderabad. Let's hope a few dozen have been deployed. Nevertheless, a terminal system is still necessary to deal with any stragglers.

One silver lining is if the Pakistanis think they cannot get into Delhi or Mumbai and create enough impact, our main corridors of power, the rest are somewhat expendable, they may decide not to use nukes. Plus using nukes means we will end up wiping out 80% of their population and hunt down all members of the PA around the world, so it's not worth the effort for them either. Rather, the Pakistani brass will simply negotiate their exile to England with their money and some extra cash (bribe) and continue living their lavish lifestyles as usual.

 

[South block]

This is pure commedy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919632359550595327

it's a free version not even paid one lol

 

[randomradio]

Who is omar abdullah? the treaty was signed by both countries and not some omar abdullah. I remember the visit of your PM. No evidence was given after pathankot as well. Whatever we received from you was blame that this organization is involved and not real time actual evidence. You are blaming us since 1990. I mean 1990. it's 2025 now. I think water treaty should be respected. We have people on both sides who has relatives in each others country. We can always talk but the process of communication is denied from your side since 2015. Why this rude behaviour? I mean we are also a country. It's not like we aren't important. Many countries still need us because of our geographical and strategic importance. This attack, if it happens, is unacceptable. A country doesn't want war and asking you to talk. At least sit and listen. You only want war. There is no talk, only war. From the last 12 days, almost every person related to your armed forces visited PM Modi. at the end of the day, why all this? Why now?

Omar Abdullah is the current CM of Kashmir. The water treaty only needed a pro-Indian govt to come into power to fix and we know the main stakeholders working against BJP will support the govt on this, both Kashmir and Punjab. Congress has been pushed to the wayside.

Nobody believes your stories. Even after clinching evidence was given for 2008, Pak still denied all involvement. Ever since then, Pakistan's words have ceased to hold value. That's also why nobody internationally expects us to talk. Even they don't care about talking to you, the UNSC meeting demonstrated that. I heard they are still laughing at Pakistan's insistence for evidence.

Both US and China need you in different ways. China needs access through Gilgit, Pakjab, and Balochistan, so they don't care about PoJK and Sindh. America needs Sindh, Balochistan, and KPK, so they don't care about Pakjab or PoJK.

India can retake PoJK without affecting either country. And if Balochistan separates from Pakistan, with help of course, that works out for the US and India. It would result in no more Chinese presence and easier access for the US into Iran and Afghanistan. Separating Sindh after that becomes really easy. And once we are ready to take on China, we can separate Gilgit from Pakistan. You definitely should be worried about a Taiwan war causing enough of a distraction for India to take Gilgit away.

 

[lcafanboy]

Because you think we did it. Why we have police, courts and investigations in both countries if it's easy to blame ad hang the other person without law? It's like attacking without any reason, just because you hate someone etc. What is the point of having law and order? You should change your decision related to water. It's basic need of human body. I have never seen this cruel india in my life. I know India wants to fight and wants to become big but let's settle it on the ground and not on issues like water.

Why should we change our decision on water...
If you (Pakistan ) can't invest on dams, canals and reservoirs it's not our (India"s)l fault. Spend less on terrorist Pakjabi gernails & fauj but alas you can't as your fauj owns the country and not the other way round so they spend on themselves more than what they should spend on country's infrastructure.
Water is a basic need. Of course yes. Hence the need to spend on infrastructure and not on useless Pakjabi gernails who haven't won a single war but have the audacity to wear various medals...
Do you even know the meaning of Cruelty. See what you people had done on 26/11 Mumbai attack, serial bomb blasts and attack on military installations in Uri, Pathankot and other attacks like attack on Indian parliament. The only difference now with India is that we now have a strong nationalist BJP government that has turned the tables on Pakistan with Indian intelligence agencies activating Balochistan, sindh, khyber pakhtunwa on one side and in the other side Indian security forces giving 10 times more befitting reply to every Pakistani adventure. So you people can cry as much as you can that BJP government is cruel but this is the new normal and we're literally enjoying it every time you get spanked for each & every misadventure you do vis a vis India..

 

[Speedster1]

Damn bro fr? What about a city like hyderabad? They wouldn't dare to hit this place cuz a lot of foreign folks work in such IT hubs of the country

Relax. I wouldn't be worried about Hyderabad getting hit. M-9/11 and Shaheen variants are the only relatively modern (solid fuelled BMs of upto 2000km range) N-vectors Pak has. Doubt they have more than a handful of those anyway.

There's no evidence they've reached a sufficient level of miniaturization to fit N-warheads to their Babur and Harbah CM/SLCM.

The Ghauri aka NoKo Nodong missile is liquid fuelled and reportedly failed tests in 2021-22. By all accounts, their MIRV test (Ababeel) wasn't successful.

Other than that all they have tactical SRBMs like Nasr which is a large caliber MLRS at best. It's telling that they chose to test the 80s-era Abdali which is a 200km SRBM instead of bigger missiles like Ababeel.

 

[safriz]

Ohhh Bhai, Maro muje maro. A 4- generation Aircraft with most poor electronics jammed the Rafales's electronics which is considered best in world. Rafale can blind all J1 to J100 with Spectra. Electreonics of Chinese aircrafts are Sh*t.


Where did other 2 Pilots go? ISPR had said that they had captured 3 Indian pilots. Who were other 2? They were F16 pilots?

Yes.
Similar claims were made about SU 30.MKI being mini AWACS .
Then what happened?

 

[Rajput Lion]

To all those on the other side of border shouting nukes, this video and its ending should be an eye-opener:

@safriz, @arsalan3345

 

[Rajput Lion]

Yes.
Similar claims were made about SU 30.MKI being mini AWACS .
Then what happened?

What happened? What happened was just two of our MKIs holding your 8 F-16 formation all by themselves and turning Swift Retort to Swift Retreat. Lol.

You'll see the full might of MKI when the balloon goes up. Till then enjoy your delusions.

 

[Defc0n]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919737693157917018

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919734024404164803

 

[South block]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919737693157917018

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919734024404164803

"Boy oh boy"..... It's finally coming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919738585541906892

 

[randomradio]

Relax. I wouldn't be worried about Hyderabad getting hit. M-9/11 and Shaheen variants are the only relatively modern (solid fuelled BMs of upto 2000km range) N-vectors Pak has. Doubt they have more than a handful of those anyway.

There's no evidence they've reached a sufficient level of miniaturization to fit N-warheads to their Babur and Harbah CM/SLCM.

The Ghauri aka NoKo Nodong missile is liquid fuelled and reportedly failed tests in 2021-22. By all accounts, their MIRV test (Ababeel) wasn't successful.

Other than that all they have tactical SRBMs like Nasr which is a large caliber MLRS at best. It's telling that they chose to test the 80s-era Abdali which is a 200km SRBM instead of bigger missiles like Ababeel.

They have Shaheen IIs in the double digits. Shaheen III as well.

 

[screambowl]

They have Shaheen IIs in the double digits. Shaheen III as well.

Relax, not going that far.

 

[_Anonymous_]

And if it's not? What if it's nothing but a token strike to make sure it doesn't provoke Pakistan from escalating. Can Modi survive politically.

Don't worry sweetie , we've taken a pledge to uproot Paxtan one way or another & help the global arms industry.

Say , did you finally invest in shares of all those US military contractors I asked you to during the war in Ukraine ?

You did , didn't you ! Now go ahead & invest in shares of military contractors from Zion .

 

[Jaymax]

Don't worry sweetie , we've taken a pledge to uproot Paxtan one way or another & help the global arms industry.

Say , did you finally invest in shares of all those US military contractors I asked you to during the war in Ukraine ?

You did , didn't you ! Now go ahead & invest in shares of military contractors from Zion .

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You are giving him too much credit.

The global cabal cashes its cheques before the first blow lands. Now they want us to use all we have so they have assured business for the next few years.

Le Innominate - He just wants CoD - India Pak edition. Simpler minds - simpler pleasures.

 

[randomradio]

Relax, not going that far.

Definitely. Not yet the time for it.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Our members from Pakistan dont even have an Idea as to what is going to hit them and how bad they are cornered. Let me explain. As on date there is no way that Pakistan can even survive 5 days in an all out war. Their only defense is their so called nukes. I saw the statement of their Def Min that if Pakistan does not survive, they will finish off the world. How stupid can anyone be. Do they think that when they start hitting other countries like Israel and Europe, rest of the world will not use their nukes?
Secondly, Our satellites and that of our friendly countries have the ability to pin point any kind of concentrated nuke radiation anywhere on earth. Indian nukes are already mated on the missiles and can be fired in under 5 minutes but Pak stores its nukes separately from the missiles and TEL. The moment they move out a TEL, we will know it, the moment they bring out the nukes for mating with missiles, we will know it and the whole process of mating the nuke to the missile and the TEL takes over an hour. Does any member think that India will wait for Pakistan to fire the nukes on India? Our NFU is designed to be activated the moment a threat of use of nukes arise. This means we will go into full force pre-emptive strike to take out not just the nukes but complete Pakistan.
Thirdly, Pak Navy will be below water in less than 30 minutes of start of war. Brahmos of Naval shore battery from Okha can hit ships in Pasni which is just 500 kms from there. We dont even need to use our ships for the job. The air bases east of Indus will be hit by spice250/SAAW and each and every aircraft shelter will be hit from within the Indian Air space by SU-30MKIs and Jags even if they are empty. The aim is to take out large number of PAF aircraft on ground. The air bases west of Indus will be visited by Mig-29Ks of IN. The aim will be to severly degrade PAF within first 24 hrs of the war.
Fourthly we will mount an intense pressure on Pak Punjab border to take out the part of North Punjab along the Narowal-Sialkot-Gujrat axis by attacking it from 3 sides Using IBGs and keeping one of our strike corps in reserve. Sindh will be taken out by the other strike corps as the Karachi corps alongwith Quetta corps has moved to Punjab to defend Punjab at all costs. The Army reserve North and South of Pak Army will also be fighting more of a defensive battles than attacking.

Wherever you go into battle, you must a well defined AIM and also must have a very good exit strategy to stop the war to achieve the overall aim either thru battle or thru negotiations after the battle. I expect a major territory gain in Sindh around Pak Hyderabad and Mirpur Khas in south Sindh and north Punjab which will lead to a negotiated settlement of POJK with Pakistan withdrawing from those areas. If this does not happen and Pak Generals insist on holding onto POJK, The war will stretch to over a month in which we will take over complete Sindh and Balochistan and by then Pak Army will have severly depleted to even Defend Punjab and will capitulate.
This is the axis I talked about,