Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed
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There is no need to get into a perception battle during the middle of operations. It provides the forces no advantage.
In fact, having a weaker perception in some cases benefits India. Like it has benefited Russia in Ukraine.
True that we need an interested civilian population, but it's not as important as people believe from an operations PoV. These are things that impact the West more, which hits recruitment. India does not face that complication. The govt is free to act as they want, and they impose costs within the confines of their own overall capabilities rather than go by public sentiment. The West is militarily limited by public sentiment, we are limited by diplomacy and finance. Our greater concern is global opinion.
Going back to the perception battle. If the world thinks Pakistan is able to protect itself and Pakistan pushes that message while taking a beating, it works out better for India. That was the point of giving them a way out in 2019. In our case, we have to domestically manage public perception by highlighting headline achievements, like the F-16 in 2019.
After everything is said and done, the public will simply move on to the next thing that catches their interest.
Nobody can stop a terror attack when the intention is to encourage a sharp reaction. Asim Munir wants India to attack.
Normally our best course of action would be to just do a Parakram Redux. Bring troops forward, significantly weaken Pakistan's western border, and make their operational maneuvers unaffordable. Keep up the pretense for 2 years or so and hasten the coming implosion. Win without firing a shot.
But we can't use this tactic again due to the passive response of previous administrations. So the public needs blood this time.
China will not interfere. That is his wishful thinking.
How an India-Pakistan nuclear war could start—and have global consequences published in 2019. "In 2025, terrorist attacked parliament killing members, India Launced attack, Pakistan used all its nuclear arsenal. India used its nuclear but reserved 100 against china"
Do anyone here believe nuclear war is possible?
Hellfire says the Indian exercises are routine. Pakistan's movements are meant to drum up international support.
India won't use nukes unless attacked with WMDs.
I personally find Pakistan will do the same, even if they lose a major war and the country breaks up. It's 'cause PA is capable of surviving a nuclear war, but not the backlash that will follow. Pakistan will cease to exist and most of the PA will fall into India's hands. But if Pak loses a conventional war; even if broken up, at least the PA will be allowed to go home after the dust settles, back to their newly formed countries.
Russians have reduced Su-35's clean frontal RCS to around 0.7m-1m2. So with 6 missiles, it would be around 2.5m2 at best.
As per Chinese, they have developed a special Radar Absorbent Paint which turns J-16 into a semi-stealth plane. They mave have reduced its RCS much more than even Russians. Remember that Chinese stole plenty of stealth data from US firms through espionage efforts.
That's why I said that all 4.5gen fighters flying with weapons/EFTs would detect each other almost at the same time. Then it's all about how good your weapons and tactics are and in that regard IAF is always the best.
yes its their habit. Attack, surrender, repeat. Surrender is a part of pakistan warplan, each time they fight they break thier own record. This time they will try to surrender quickly to break their earlier record.
Instrument of surrender 2025
''The PAKISTAN ARMY agree to surrender all PAKISTAN Armed Forces to Indian government. This surrender includes all PAKISTAN land, air and naval forces as also all para-military forces and civil armed forces. These forces will lay down their arms and surrender at the places where they are currently located to the nearest regular Indian Army troops"
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(Asim Munir)
" I accept merging pakistan territory into Jammu and Kashmir(India). I have fulfilled my promise now we have got our jugular vein. I have solved decades old problem, Allah has helped us achieve our targets" :- Asim Munir
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Currently estimated positions of Barak batteries and S-400 squadrons.
13 MRSAM batteries (80 km) and 3 S-400 squadrons (325 km).
There are a few more holes that need to be plugged, like Bikaner and Sirsa along Pakistan, they sit within the gap between Punjab and Rajasthan. Maybe it will be done soon.
18 batteries will plug most holes. Then we will need another 12-14 batteries, which will be covered by Akash NG; Ujjain, Agra, Halwara, Ambala, Hasimara, Chabua, Bhopal etc. But it could go beyond that due to the IAF's planned expansion.
As for the S-400, you will notice there are 5 circles rather than 6. It's possible one of the two sites, either Jodhpur or Punjab, have 4 batteries instead of 2. Or we just don't know the location of the 6th one. Bareilly and Gwalior may get S-400. And maybe Awantipore in Kashmir and the last one in Assam or Gorakhpur. 9 sites, 20 batteries.
13 MRSAM batteries (80 km) and 3 S-400 squadrons (325 km).
There are a few more holes that need to be plugged, like Bikaner and Sirsa along Pakistan, they sit within the gap between Punjab and Rajasthan. Maybe it will be done soon.
18 batteries will plug most holes. Then we will need another 12-14 batteries, which will be covered by Akash NG; Ujjain, Agra, Halwara, Ambala, Hasimara, Chabua, Bhopal etc. But it could go beyond that due to the IAF's planned expansion.
As for the S-400, you will notice there are 5 circles rather than 6. It's possible one of the two sites, either Jodhpur or Punjab, have 4 batteries instead of 2. Or we just don't know the location of the 6th one. Bareilly and Gwalior may get S-400. And maybe Awantipore in Kashmir and the last one in Assam or Gorakhpur. 9 sites, 20 batteries.
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What about the earlier generation Radars and SAMs which were functioning before MRSAM and S 400
We had S 200 and S 300 prior to S 400
Yes you got that right. There's no direct link between Erieye and PL 15.
JF 17 entire Firmware was written in Pakistan in C language.
So that can be modified in house , and things can be baked in.
agreed. Diffference is ours is deeper in the hinterland. And they are more dispersed.
On the other hand, taking these out effectively degrades Pakistan's war fighting capability. Come back from which is impossible without direct sea routes. Those Grid stations cannot be replaced in months, forget days. And without fuel and the grid, you are looking at complete breakdown.
Forgot the mention Link 77.
This was a project started in 1977 and still ongoing.
This was a project of connecting all ground based radars together in one country wide network.
There's translation involved in that too. Because Pakistan uses Chinese and western radars together.
To have them all work together, intermediate translation must be involved.
My primary school friend was in command of southern air defense when Operation Swift retort happened in 2019.
He has a very deep knowledge of Pakistani air defense, but like any military guy he is bound not to say it.
Now and again he would tell me bits and pieces , not the whole picture. Hence my "assumptions" .
Good one. Show us how much business lost for Pakistan. We are third largest aviation market.
Pakistan is also firing world's first Manned Cruise Missile the great China Maal JF-17 which is being dropped on Pakistan itself and is being hidden from its awam. But martin Baker is reporting it blowing off the cover....
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