Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

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The only change in the IAF compared to 2020 is the sale of 36 Rafale aircraft, while Pakistan has about 100 advanced fighter jets using AESA radars and PL15.

20 J-10C and 50 JF-17. And no PL-15E on the JF-17s, only SD-10.

As for air defense missiles, China can airlift several battalions of S400 and HQ9B to Pakistan at any time.

With Chinese crews? 'Cause PA can't operate these systems without training.

Anyway, China won't interfere. China will never fight for Pakistan. And China needs those S-400s. PLA won't risk compromising the HQ-9B for Pakistan either.

The Pakistani Army is different. Although it has bought advanced equipment such as VT 4 and SH15, it still lacks effective accompanying air defense weapons. According to public information, India has attached great importance to the development of FPV in recent years, and has basically established drone teams at the brigade level. I have not found any video of the Pakistani Army using FPV. Pakistani Army lack weapons and equipment that can effectively counter FPV.
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They likely have FPV, 'cause we have invested a lot into CUAS.
 
20 J-10C and 50 JF-17. And no PL-15E on the JF-17s, only SD-10.



With Chinese crews? 'Cause PA can't operate these systems without training.

Anyway, China won't interfere. China will never fight for Pakistan. And China needs those S-400s. PLA won't risk compromising the HQ-9B for Pakistan either.



They likely have FPV, 'cause we have invested a lot into CUAS.
For China, it is not difficult to temporarily install aesa radar on some JF17BLOCK2. It is even easier to temporarily install PL15 on JF 17. Pakistan is equipped with HQ9 and HQ16, so operators are not a problem.
S400 and Su-35 are similar, both are assets that China doesn't want very much, especially after the Russian-Ukrainian war, S400 has become a joke on the Internet in China, and the PLA rarely reports on S400 publicly, most of the focus is still on HQ9/HQ22
 
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They likely have FPV, 'cause we have invested a lot into CUAS.
we are worrying is Pakistan's army. Pakistan's army is large but very bloated. FPV is a revolutionary weapon. It caused 50% of personnel losses and 70% of equipment losses on the Russian-Ukrainian battlefield, but Pakistan does not seem to attach importance to it. It did not even equip the tank troops mobilized to the border with protective nets.
 
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Whatever chinese help Pak with their industrial capabilities in active conflict should set the rules when Chinese engage Taiwan.

Only saving grace for us is Chinese have to donate everything.
 
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Pakistan Army's armored forces are equally desperate. They bought a lot of advanced tanks, T80UD, MBT2000, VT4, they are very advanced, but what about infantry fighting vehicles? Only M113. In the Russian-Ukrainian battlefield, we have seen that the importance of M2A3 is far greater than M1.
Although India is also poor in this regard, with only 1,700 BMP2s, the BMP 2 at least has a 30mm 2A42 gun, while the M113 is just a thin-skinned aluminum can.
 
For China, it is not difficult to temporarily install aesa radar on some JF17BLOCK2. It is even easier to temporarily install PL15 on JF 17. Pakistan is equipped with HQ9 and HQ16, so operators are not a problem.
Once more training is the limiting factor. You can not train pilots in a matter of days with new toys. A new radar is essentially a new fire control system that requires training to use it effectively. Not to mention, if China tries to send its transport planes to Pakistan, they will be intercepted and shot down.

Does China wants to *censored* up its trade with US and India togather? Not to mention, mess up its sea trade routes?

S400 and Su-35 are similar, both are assets that China doesn't want very much, especially after the Russian-Ukrainian war, S400 has become a joke on the Internet in China, and the PLA rarely reports on S400 publicly, most of the focus is still on HQ9/HQ22
HUH? S400 is a SAM. Su-35 is a fighter jet. What are you trying to say here? LOL!

And no, Pakistan does not operate even S-300. LOL!

Barely giving them Su-35 and S400 is not going to do anything at all. It will get destroyed pretty fast. Otherwise,USA would have been dumping all its F-16s and F-18s to Ukraine. It's useless for Ukraine. Europe and US were seeking Mig-29s for them, remember.

Weapon without training is a liability.
 
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For China, it is not difficult to temporarily install aesa radar on some JF17BLOCK2. It is even easier to temporarily install PL15 on JF 17. Pakistan is equipped with HQ9 and HQ16, so operators are not a problem.

You do realize we may end up fighting in a matter of days or a week at best? Where is the time for an upgrade? Carriage and flight trials of BVR missiles takes a year or two of work.

Operators are a problem. It takes up to 12 months to qualify a SAM crew from scratch and 3-6 months for a crew with experience on other SAMs. Chinese conscripts take 6-9 months. And all of this is only to train them to use the SAM. Getting them all fully operational takes up to 2 more years. So it's a 2-3 year effort.

None of these are options without Chinese soldiers entering the war as mercenaries. And guess what happens to mercenaries... No Geneva Convention.

Anyway how are you going to deliver it? War means a blockade. Indian forces will shoot down anything they do not recognize. In the last major war we fought, we even sank American and British ships that tried to supply war materials to Pakistan.

S400 and Su-35 are similar, both are assets that China doesn't want very much, especially after the Russian-Ukrainian war, S400 has become a joke on the Internet in China, and the PLA rarely reports on S400 publicly, most of the focus is still on HQ9/HQ22

Regardless of PLA's public posturing, they still don't have a better SAM than the S-400. The Su-35s are monkey models with limited capabilities, so that's fine. China won't be allowed to re-export Russian tech anyway. It's easier for you to compromise your own systems by exposing them to India through Pakistan. Or the alternative is, once the war is over, China can requip Pakistan with export grade models using Chinese funds.

Anyway, arming Pakistan will get you in trouble with the US. And you will open up the door to India cooperating deeply with Vietnam and Taiwan militarily. So I don't see China experiencing any benefit.
 
we are worrying is Pakistan's army. Pakistan's army is large but very bloated. FPV is a revolutionary weapon. It caused 50% of personnel losses and 70% of equipment losses on the Russian-Ukrainian battlefield, but Pakistan does not seem to attach importance to it. It did not even equip the tank troops mobilized to the border with protective nets.

We have reason to believe they have invested in such drones. We will only know for sure after things start moving, it will take a few days for army involvement once operations begin.
 
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Anyway, arming Pakistan will get you in trouble with the US. And you will open up the door to India cooperating deeply with Vietnam and Taiwan militarily. So I don't see China experiencing any benefit.
Buddy, they have exported M11 missiles to pak in past.
 
No idea about how much stock Pakistan have.
But Pakistan being a narrow country, moving assets east or West is much easier than for a larger land mass like India.
Plus the fact that Pakistan army has very long experience of war in very difficult terrain and conditions. On the western borders with Afghanistan. That was never stopped for over 3 decade, and lessons were learned and baked into military strategy.
However there's still a shortage of the capacity of mass producing artillery shells .
Buddy there's a big organisation called indian railways, who also have large rail networks, how do you think that logistics take place in this country, so does indian army fighting in every terrain,
If they had learned their lessons from previous major terror ops form the past, they wouldn't have been taking many causalities nor the terrorist groups running checkpoints in highways,
 
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