Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

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When Hamas met with the LeT and JeM, starting to give speech about jihad what was isi doing thinking at that time?
For the last couple of years multiple ex ssg guy's joined the ranks of LeT, and JeM, and got killed in Kashmir so you are saying me isi didn't had clue,
Or how the JeM, LeT guy's getting service issued weapons of Pakistan forces,
And Why the pakistan Army trying to cross the loc last week,
Topic isn't Palestine, but since it's being brought up anyway, let me say this loud. Palestinians have every right to defend their homeland. Specially when people want to kick them out and turn their country into a resort.

About the rest of what you wrote. Yes I saw this myself that Kashmiri fighters were being trained on Pakistan army firing range at a military installation on Pakistani territory.
But that was in the 90s when Pakistani official stance on Kashmir was very strong.
I can't say the same about now. Don't think any such training is still carried out.
Although I am not here to accuse or defend ISI.. Rather trying to make sense of this all.
And it doesn't make sense to me that ISI will.go 90s mindset,xand start the same level or type of support for Kashmiris as it was in the 90s.
Has to be something else.
 
India does not have enough capacity to store excess water, or any existing lines to divert the Pak rivers under IWT.

The impact of this move will be more psychological as the summer temps rise. Even a marginal reduction in the water flow will get Pak's attention.

PakJab is still largely agricultural. Water is a no go for them. This move will have them shouting from the roofs.

Suspension of water data will cause problems.
Lip service

India has given 1 week for Pakistanis to move out, so we are unlikely to see action until then.
 
Yes I saw this myself that Kashmiri fighters were being trained on Pakistan army firing range at a military installation on Pakistani territory.
But that was in the 90s when Pakistani official stance on Kashmir was very strong.
I can't say the same about now. Don't think any such training is still carried out.

Considering militants are now going toe-to-toe with PA in western Pak, we can assume they can train themselves now. The financial component wouldn't have stopped, alongside protection from aggression.
 
India has given 1 week for Pakistanis to move out, so we are unlikely to see action until then.
As I explained earlier, under the SAARC visa exemption program normal pakistani citizens are not covered. It includes quota only for certain government positions. The numbers would be miniscule.

The media left out the SAARC exemption program and focused only on Visa suspension. Misnomer.
 
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Suspension of water data will cause problems.


India has given 1 week for Pakistanis to move out, so we are unlikely to see action until then.
Don't think water terrorism will do anything.
If you know anything about current Pakistani agriculture, it's now mostly reliant on pumping ground water for irrigation, instead of relying on canal water.

I am not sure if attacking Pakistan will bring any political benefits to Nerender Modi ,same way as it did in 2019. Back then he did so as part of election
campaign , and benefitted massively playing Pakistan card.
The Abhi Nandan fiasco happened in February 2019 , then he bragged about it until April 2019 when elections happened
Right now he doesn't need this for another 4 years, as he only won last year and has another 4 years to go until next election.
I doubt he will do anything big this time.
He can't fight a war with Pakistan now , and brag about it 4 years later during election rallies. Common man don't have that much long term memory .
 
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Considering militants are now going toe-to-toe with PA in western Pak, we can assume they can train themselves now. The financial component wouldn't have stopped, alongside protection from aggression.
Western Pakistan?
What exactly are you referring to.
And hi Random radio. You still alive? Long time
 
As I explained earlier, under the SAARC visa exemption program normal pakistani citizens are not covered. It includes quota only for certain government positions. The numbers would be miniscule.

The media left out the SAARC exemption program and focused only on Visa suspension. Misnomer.

Those who came in through SAARC visa get 48 hours. All Pakistani citizens, military attaches, and diplomats get 1 week.

The Integrated Check Post Attari will be closed with immediate effect. Those who have crossed over with valid endorsements may return through that route before 01 May 2025.

The Defence/Military, Naval and Air Advisors in the Pakistani High Commission in New Delhi are declared Persona Non Grata. They have a week to leave India.


So we could see action after the SAARC ones leave or after everyone leaves. We don't want them to make up an excuse to stay back once action begins. There are more than 20,000 on visa in India.
 
Those who came in through SAARC visa get 48 hours. All Pakistani citizens, military attaches, and diplomats get 1 week.

The Integrated Check Post Attari will be closed with immediate effect. Those who have crossed over with valid endorsements may return through that route before 01 May 2025.

The Defence/Military, Naval and Air Advisors in the Pakistani High Commission in New Delhi are declared Persona Non Grata. They have a week to leave India.


So we could see action after the SAARC ones leave or after everyone leaves. We don't want them to make up an excuse to stay back once action begins. There are more than 20,000 on visa in India.
A) At a minimum, If India starts heavy shelling from thus side and Afghans take advantage from the other side, does p-a-k-i-s have wherewithal to stand pounding from both sides?
B) Can India do sustained shelling for long periods of time?
C) I think Modi will hit a terror center or pak army station this time.

All - what do you think likely indian reaction would be?
 
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So nothing is happening at all.

"Abeyance" is the word used for Indus water treaty. It means nothing. Worthless. Because it is not abrogation.
Rest is all worthless.

WB provides India low-interest or interest-free loans with moratoriums of 5-10 years. There's a limit to what we can do without damaging relations with them.

Even a temporary abeyance can provide a negotiations advantage.
 
WB provides India low-interest or interest-free loans with moratoriums of 5-10 years. There's a limit to what we can do without damaging relations with them.

Even a temporary abeyance can provide a negotiations advantage.
WB is US dominated and Trump is india friendly?
 
a) what did pak achieve by Mumbai attacks? Those attacks partly lead to downfall of congress govt in india. Congress is / was friend of pak, and that friend lost the govt.

Their big plan was to push the blame on to South Indian terrorist organizations. Kasab's capture followed by a bunch of others led to Pak.

Islam is a religion of war & conquest. It does not let you think, only fighting continuously.

They hate education as a matter of principle.
 
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Likewise it's a fact that nothing unites Pakistanis more than a war.

TTP and BLA may disagree with that.

One attack from India, and people will forget everything and stand with the military, which currently they are not.

They might not. All the Indian govt has to do is push support for Niazi, "the true PM of the country" and sit back and relax.

"Nothing bad would have happened had Niazi been in power" would go the narrative.
 
Don't think water terrorism will do anything.
If you know anything about current Pakistani agriculture, it's now mostly reliant on pumping ground water for irrigation, instead of relying on canal water.

All that's great, but you need rivers to replenish ground water. Rain water alone isn't enough.

I am not sure if attacking Pakistan will bring any political benefits to Nerender Modi ,same way as it did in 2019. Back then he did so as part of election
campaign , and benefitted massively playing Pakistan card.
The Abhi Nandan fiasco happened in February 2019 , then he bragged about it until April 2019 when elections happened
Right now he doesn't need this for another 4 years, as he only won last year and has another 4 years to go until next election.
I doubt he will do anything big this time.
He can't fight a war with Pakistan now , and brag about it 4 years later during election rallies. Common man don't have that much long term memory .

Which means, this time it's going to be personal.

Anyway it all depends on the scale of what happens. If there's any loss in territory, people will be reminded of that in 4 years.
 
TTP and BLA may disagree with that.



They might not. All the Indian govt has to do is push support for Niazi, "the true PM of the country" and sit back and relax.

"Nothing bad would have happened had Niazi been in power" would go the narrative.
Yes, that's political meddling, not a military attack, and may have effects.
A military to military conflict may not have desired results.
 
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All that's great, but you need rivers to replenish ground water. Rain water alone isn't enough.



Which means, this time it's going to be personal.

Anyway it all depends on the scale of what happens. If there's any loss in territory, people will be reminded of that in 4 years.
Hmm. I haven't followed this news at all.
For most Pakistanis at the moment , Niazi is far more important than whatever Modi is saying or doing.
 
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