Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

[TARGET]

In the next conflict, Pakistan is going to fire the Fatah 4, a YJ18 variant. It has the range up to the UP defense corridor, Mumbai, and Gujarat, possibly to score some points for social media bots. In my opinion, we might require effective jamming methods for Chinese military satellites/ Beidou, and AWACS 24/7 on patrol.

 

[Defc0n]

In the next conflict, Pakistan is going to fire the Fatah 4, a YJ18 variant. It has the range up to the UP defense corridor, Mumbai, and Gujarat, possibly to score some points for social media bots. In my opinion, we might require effective jamming methods for Chinese military satellites/ Beidou, and AWACS 24/7 on patrol.


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I expect longer range stuff. There is still zero clarity on what was intercepted over Sirsa (allegedly CM-400 AKG?) that made IAF rain hell on Pakistan. So, they will definitely want to score kills for social media points next time. Pakistan being the country they are, expect BMs with conventional warheads targeting Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore with the intention of causing maximum casualties among civilian population.

 

[Subgradewalker]

I expect longer range stuff. There is still zero clarity on what was intercepted over Sirsa (allegedly CM-400 AKG?) that made IAF rain hell on Pakistan. So, they will definitely want to score kills for social media points next time. Pakistan being the country they are, expect BMs with conventional warheads targeting Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore with the intention of causing maximum casualties among civilian population.

I am not so much worried on overt military face off. Any hit to civilian sites and you can be sure that Trump and CIA can forget about their non-NATO Major terror pet. I have no doubt that there will be no emotional/political/diplomatic/cultural space to back off without bombing of pak day and night and Balochistan creation.

I am only concerned about cover operations. Those have been weak points of India in last decade. Reliance on foreign intelligence input has become a sword hanging by a thread.
I don't know if doval sir brought some changes in both operational and technical aspects of all agencies...
But going by RAGAS anti-india stance, I am worried.

 

[Defc0n]

I am not so much worried on overt military face off. Any hit to civilian sites and you can be sure that Trump and CIA can forget about their non-NATO Major terror pet. I have no doubt that there will be no emotional/political/diplomatic/cultural space to back off without bombing of pak day and night and Balochistan creation.

I am only concerned about cover operations. Those have been weak points of India in last decade. Reliance on foreign intelligence input has become a sword hanging by a thread.
I don't know if doval sir brought some changes in both operational and technical aspects of all agencies...
But going by RAGAS anti-india stance, I am worried.

One cannot happen without the other, if, we are to go by our declared doctrine and posture (Sindoor is paused, not over). Any internal attacks with clear marks of external forces should be treated as an act of war. The option to do this is kind of limited by geography — their best bet is Bangladesh and their posture is also very transparent I.e. “we will start from the east”. Therefore, I see no reason why we can’t treat all/any act from east whether external or internal via sleepers as doing of Pak and belt them as needed making it overt on our terms!

 

[screambowl]

The option to do this is kind of limited by geography — their best bet is Bangladesh and their posture is also very transparent I.e. “we will start from the east”

With Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai 2.0 may be Indian government will think it is time to fix East and West Pakistan.

Bangladesh closes 3 land ports to India after New Delhi halts exports

The decision to close the ports was taken during a meeting of the advisory council held at the office of Bangladesh's Chief Advisor, Muhammad Yunus. Following the meeting, an announcement was made at a press conference by Younus's Press Secretary Shafiqul Alam.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Shan]

It has once again been proven that PAF and Pak Army do most of their warfare on Social Media. After all why fight for real when tik tok exists? Once again an edited clip has been debunked soon after it began to circulate.

It is not that the babus cannot have ministries run fact check accounts, they are just lazy. The benefits of having a few ministries like IB or IT running their fact checks on SM is for all to see. This was nipped in the bud before it gained traction.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960946498361024812

 

[Defc0n]

It has once again been proven that PAF and Pak Army do most of their warfare on Social Media. After all why fight for real when tik tok exists? Once again an edited clip has been debunked soon after it began to circulate.

It is not that the babus cannot have ministries run fact check accounts, they are just lazy. The benefits of having a few ministries like IB or IT running their fact checks on SM is for all to see. This was nipped in the bud before it gained traction.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960946498361024812

There has to be a proactive approach to doing this, especially when the fog of war is the thickest! The bots go on an overdrive to set a narrative to play with the psyche of India’s population and we need to prevent that from happening. We did better than what happened after Balakote - we did indeed learn, so, hoping that next time our SM management will be better.

With Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai 2.0 may be Indian government will think it is time to fix East and West Pakistan.

Bangladesh closes 3 land ports to India after New Delhi halts exports

The decision to close the ports was taken during a meeting of the advisory council held at the office of Bangladesh's Chief Advisor, Muhammad Yunus. Following the meeting, an announcement was made at a press conference by Younus's Press Secretary Shafiqul Alam.

www.indiatoday.in

If the show starts from East (directly or indirectly), India will be forced to handle it. There are rumours of something happening from BD side during Sindoor (reported by @GoreUnit) - if an actual attack takes place, it will a two front situation with Pak proxies fighting from BD and Pak to the west — this will force India’s hand to settle the deal with BD and ensure whatever CIA has done there is properly undone. As for settling Pak, that will be a long drawn scenario as this will need IA to go into Pak and fight them inside, in a heavily defended area — in my opinion, the idea will be to paralyse the PA and PAF (PN is already non-existent) without trying to go for land gains or BD style liberation) with a swift and massive assault from air and sea. Their infra will be converted to rubble such that rebuilding (even with China and US’s help) takes a very long time. That’s my reading of things to come if shit hits the fan!

 

[RationalGuy]

There has to be a proactive approach to doing this, especially when the fog of war is the thickest! The bots go on an overdrive to set a narrative to play with the psyche of India’s population and we need to prevent that from happening. We did better than what happened after Balakote - we did indeed learn, so, hoping that next time our SM management will be better.


If the show starts from East (directly or indirectly), India will be forced to handle it. There are rumours of something happening from BD side during Sindoor (reported by @GoreUnit) - if an actual attack takes place, it will a two front situation with Pak proxies fighting from BD and Pak to the west — this will force India’s hand to settle the deal with BD and ensure whatever CIA has done there is properly undone. As for settling Pak, that will be a long drawn scenario as this will need IA to go into Pak and fight them inside, in a heavily defended area — in my opinion, the idea will be to paralyse the PA and PAF (PN is already non-existent) without trying to go for land gains or BD style liberation) with a swift and massive assault from air and sea. Their infra will be converted to rubble such that rebuilding (even with China and US’s help) takes a very long time. That’s my reading of things to come if shit hits the fan!

See the thing is, if Indian Navy hits Karachi and controls Arabian Sea which is literally a given, it's game over for Pakistan. Because you can't fight a war without oil. They will run with their tails wagging to Amreka or China to broker a ceasefire, and their social media bots are going to get mauled badly once the pics of Karachi burning and PN in ruins gets out.

And IN can defeat them in 1 maybe 2 weeks max if they get their subs out. If Pak has its subs in dock for maintenance like during Sindoor then imo IN can defeat Pak Navy in hours .

 

[Ashwin]

Its time for a new thread.

Continue here: Operation Sindoor: Aftermath