Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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They will kill themselves but they will never agree on such things,
We too are not ready for such hostile population
We need POJK at any cost whatever it may be as it separates China from our part of the world and opens doors to the cheapest energy sources of the world called central asia bypassing Pakistan and possibly Afghanistan. China will get locked to SE asia after that and there we have better influence compared to China.
 
Iranian airspace is blocked, Pakistani airspace is blocked, Ukranian airspace is blocked, and if the war escalates whole western asian airspace could become a no flyzone. This is a high time where Indian policy makers must think towards airspace access by passing Pakistan or gaining access, because sooner or later this will become a costly affair and create supply chain issue. This is absolutely absurd that India has no access to central asia from it's main land by air.
 
We need POJK at any cost whatever it may be as it separates China from our part of the world and opens doors to the cheapest energy sources of the world called central asia bypassing Pakistan and possibly Afghanistan. China will get locked to SE asia after that and there we have better influence compared to China.
There will be economic benefit as well as we will also get K2 mountain and some high peaks. Expeditions on those by climbers will bring more forex and increase overall tourism in the region.
 

Comparing India's action against a actual nucelar powered nation , with a good airforce and supported by 2 superpowers (US/China) in the world............... to Israel's action on a non nuclear nation , with no decent air force is a flawed comparison ... Our Airforce did a far greater and complex job than what Israelis are doing now and Our forces came out successful against a formidable enemy than what Israel is facing now ....the only thing we lag is the tech advancement of Isreal and the level and sophistication of Mossads Intelligence gathering , asset creation and Ops execution capability .
 
Comparing India's action against a actual nucelar powered nation , with a good airforce and supported by 2 superpowers (US/China) in the world............... to Israel's action on a non nuclear nation , with no decent air force is a flawed comparison ... Our Airforce did a far greater and complex job than what Israelis are doing now and Our forces came out successful against a formidable enemy than what Israel is facing now ....the only thing we lag is the tech advancement of Isreal and the level and sophistication of Mossads Intelligence gathering , asset creation and Ops execution capability .
It's actually a very powerfull argument for India to consider how efficient was the attack of the 10/05 compare to the Israël attack yesterday. In less than some hours India ended the war.
 
Comparing India's action against a actual nucelar powered nation , with a good airforce and supported by 2 superpowers (US/China) in the world............... to Israel's action on a non nuclear nation , with no decent air force is a flawed comparison ... Our Airforce did a far greater and complex job than what Israelis are doing now and Our forces came out successful against a formidable enemy than what Israel is facing now ....the only thing we lag is the tech advancement of Isreal and the level and sophistication of Mossads Intelligence gathering , asset creation and Ops execution capability .

No comparison at all. Pakistan had far more advance training and tactic, 4th generation NATO air assets and 4.5 gen Chinese weapons with modern BVR missiles, better radar systems and EW suite.
 
Yes all are relevant.

527 men lost their lives during the Kargil War. Is that also irrelevant information to you about Kargil?

No one is denying that the overall objective was achieved. We need to critically look at the details and shortcomings so that we can improve ourselves for the next conflict.

My point is, we celebrated the Kargil victory, our social media was not full of `we lost 3 aircraft, therefore we lost'.
Obviously each death is painful, but they would be in vain, if social media had screamed about for us to stop in the early stages because
we took casualties, or if we did not take our objectives.
We do look at the learning from the battle and casualties, which is why the Kargil review committee was set up. I'm sure we are studying
lessons from Op Sindhoor too.
 
I agree with his conclusion. One Rafale likely crashed. The correct reason for its crash would come out in due time.
It's likely BVRM only otherwise it's hard to believe how else it could have gone down. Pak spammed with PL15 and one caught the Rafale. Next time we should not hold back and fire Astra Mk2 and even Meteors in good numbers.
 
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We know that the Pakistanis' objective was to shoot down at least one Rafale at any cost: they launched four PL-15s per Rafale, and as there were around 30 Rafales, that makes 120 PL-15s, and of those 120, one hit a Rafale. But even though that Rafale lost an engine and had its control surfaces damaged, it wasn't enough. It still made it back to base because the Rafale's FCS adapts to what remains of the control surfaces to keep it flying.
 
It's likely BVRM only otherwise it's hard to believe how else it could have gone down. Pak spammed with PL15 and one caught the Rafale. Next time we should not hold back and fire Astra Mk2 and even Meteors in good numbers.
As per some internal IAF sources all PL-15s were defeated by Rafales. So likely a SAM hit. But we shall wait for official confirmation by IAF themselves. Till then all options are open.
 
Absolutely pathetic, if true!

PS: Before the start of the Ops, I wrote that IAF should use our most potent MKI + BrahMos combo against Pak terror infra and it happened just like that and much more. But I also wrote that our Rafale + Meteor combo is superior to any other jet + missile combo in the sub-continent. But without Meteor, even MKI is anyday a better BVR + WVR figher than Rafale. And with all the OSINTs & RUMINTs praising MKI's air-to-air & air-to-ground performance, it is quite clear that Rafale didn't bring Meteor to the fight otherwise there is no way MKI would be termed as "Ghost of Kashmir" over Rafale, IMO.
 
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Absolutely pathetic, if true!

PS: Before the start of the Ops, I wrote that IAF should use our most potent MKI + BrahMos combo against Pak terror infra and it happened just like that and much more. But I also wrote that our Rafale + Meteor combo is superior to any other jet + missile combo in the sub-continent. But without Meteor, even MKI is anyday a better BVR + WVR figher than Rafale. And with all the OSINTs & RUMINTs praising MKI's air-to-air & air-to-ground performance, it is quite clear that Rafale didn't bring Meteor to the fight otherwise there is no way MKI would be termed as "Ghost of Kashmir" over Rafale, IMO.
Yeah well this WVLN handle itself is a big rumour peddler. In previous instances the original material for such rumours is Arpit Kanodia aka /Arpit

Ask him the source of these findings & how did he reach this conclusion . Otherwise it's one rumour peddler quoting another & before you know it thanks to circular referencing you've one big rumour circus going on
 
Absolutely pathetic, if true!

PS: Before the start of the Ops, I wrote that IAF should use our most potent MKI + BrahMos combo against Pak terror infra and it happened just like that and much more. But I also wrote that our Rafale + Meteor combo is superior to any other jet + missile combo in the sub-continent. But without Meteor, even MKI is anyday a better BVR + WVR figher than Rafale. And with all the OSINTs & RUMINTs praising MKI's air-to-air & air-to-ground performance, it is quite clear that Rafale didn't bring Meteor to the fight otherwise there is no way MKI would be termed as "Ghost of Kashmir" over Rafale, IMO.

Why should the Rafales carry Meteors when the RoE was to not shoot back?

Anyway, the same guy who said Rafale's not even integrated with Meteors.
 

Speaking to French magazine Challenges, Trappier addressed the Pakistani statement head-on, saying: “The reports of Indian Rafales being lost are not accurate.”

“It’s always difficult to say we’re the best in absolute terms, but I believe we offer the best compromise,” he said. “If you want a single aircraft capable of air-to-air combat, reconnaissance, ground strikes, nuclear deterrence, and aircraft carrier deployment, Rafale is unmatched.”

He said that in a confrontation with a US F-22, the Rafale might face challenges due to the F-22’s stealth and air-superiority edge. “But if you’re looking at versatility and real-world mission readiness, Rafale is superior to the F-35 and far better than anything China currently offers,” Trappier added.
 
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