Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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Pakistan's objective was to get Munir promoted (I won't dignify him with a rank) which was achieved. On a more serious note, it has diverted public attention from the insurgency in Baluchistan, economic problems which are going to restart and the continued imprisonment of Imran Khan.
Next summer Pak will start facing water shortages, as our work on the IWT will divert some water away from Pak. Either Pak seriously negotiates then, or we have to prepare for a real war.
Have seen the blog sir. It was good and the AM G S Bedi interview was also very good which you interlinked.
But, I have a request sir. Please try to include the support pakistan financially gets from gulf countries in making these big purchases. Generally pakistan-china defence deals are very opaque but some pakistani members (reputable) post in Pakistani forum (PDF) that VT4 tanks was financed by Saudis, similar things were said about J-10C. So, we can't expect them to stop that kind of support suddenly but as you said the more India grows the difficult it will be for pakistan to catchup in this arms race kind of thing.
I did a crude analysis on the amount pakistan was given by OPEC countries in 1975, under percapita criteria that gave equivalent of $24 billion.
China is no US, they wont provide free lunch. Even the VT4s were paid by Saudis as said by one Pak member who knows more on armored stuff in old PDF, and apparently even J-10s initial payment came from gulf and rest is loan, with all these arrangements PAF bought just 20 odd J-10s but they will absorb 200 J-10s suddenly
And btw this is not something new for pak,
around 1970s after Yom-Kippur war, mohemmdan countries embargoed oil and jacked up prices, India was under serious strain at that time, while Pak was getting half a billion dollar aid in just one year, in present rate that equals 6billion USD, and if you compare the aid as percent of percapita income it will be even more aid required in present day, like $7 bump at a percapita lf $110 in 1975, is like 6% bump in percapita income just because of aid, if similar percent in pakistan percapita has to occur in 2025 withe a percapita of ~$1600, it requires a $100 bump percapita and for the population of 240 million, it gives 24 Billion USD of aid in just a year.
I think the forum can produce an article ( even a single A4) on projects of importance that need attention or should be sped up and publish it. This would be the biggest takeaway from this op. A collective effort (google drive)/a vote or even a senior member can publish it here or on their own blog.
Main issue is Iran, and some one else wanted Munira promoted and Imran Khan in jail. Pakistan uses it's geography and strategic location to grant access and gets a free escape all the time. But Indian response which was unimaginable has made clear who is the boss in the region, and whom should they approach for their adventures. Pakistan as a country has been made irrelevant.
I had written to the govt to ban Celebi from cargo handling (I was briefly in a senior position in the airline industry) and also end the permission of Turkish air and Indigo's code share with Turkish air (because Indigo refused to do it). I was pleasantly surprised that the ministry acknowledged my letter and Celebi was banned in 3 days. It may well be for reason that had nothing to do with my letter - or many representations line mine,
but I'd like to think I did my part.
Celebi have gone to court and I hope mylords do not disappoint us.
For those who are not aware, Celebi aviation, which has a large Turkish shareholding and close to the Erdogan family, handles cargo exclusively
at 9 indian airports. That is a huge security risk, in my opinion.
My sense is the govt will tell Indigo not to renew the code share with Turkish air, or they will not give Indigo a NOC. Turkish pilots may be denied
security clearance, or they may get less convenient landing slots.
Our media reports on individual deaths at the hands on unknown gunmen. I don't think we realise that there have been 33 assassinations
all by unknown gunmen. Only the most recent attempt may have failed - he was taken to military hospital in serious condition. In not one case
have the killers been identified. They have been killed in every province, plus Afghanistan and Nepal. They have been killed getting out of a mosque,
in the heart of Karachi, with bodyguards on either side etc. This is way better than what Mossad has achieved.
I think the US and Canada have quietly dropped Nijjar/Pannun and not questioned what we may do in Pak.
Porkee still repairing their runways.... we should have gone all out.....a missed opportunity damn.
Pak govt should compensate India for this.
This is getting traction..
How some evidence comes out
What about mixer grinder and pressure cooker? Already given to the jabaaz pilots. Are they going to take them back.
Every single bomb India dropped on every single target was hit. What makes you think they had the ability to stop anything buddy?
Has this been already put up? It is appearing simultaneously in multiple mainlaine papers so I think this is an 'official' leak - IAF finally giving up their assessment of damage. Guess it must have taken a lot of technical analysis to work out what happened.
economictimes.indiatimes.com
I don't understand Pakistani thinking IAF claims of shotdowns is fiction- EVERY SINGLE TARGET IAF attacked was hit. What is the case for saying they will somehow not be able to shoot down jets because of the 'jazba' of Pak pilots? That's just stupid.
IAF missiles shot down JF-17 Thunder, AWACS flying 300 km inside Pakistan, two F-16s, and a C-130J during Operation Sindoor: Report
On May 10, India executed Operation Sindoor, striking deep into Pakistan, destroying an early warning aircraft and multiple fighter jets. The IAF utilized Rafale and Su-30MKI aircraft with SCALP and BrahMos missiles, targeting key military assets and disrupting Pakistani operations. Following...
Means they cannot que missile to targets? What is preventing us to make a large body awacs housing both S/L band dome radar and X band radar as conforontal panels?
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I think the HT & ET reports are 'official' leaks.
Plus- it also explains the specific rage the Pakistanis have against the Adampur S 400- apparently that was the unit that shot the AWACS down.
@LX1111 hell even the EA platforms of the PAF were grounded. How the hell do you think they could fight with IAF without any support?
Yeah, but it'll be able to fuse data from its S-Band ASR and nose-mounted X-Band FCR to create a complete battlespace picture of around 240°. Not as good as 360° covering full-blown AWACS, but still good enough for the job.
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