deny. call for de-escalation. do theatrics. repeat. Pai, why...why Pai...please don't.I am wondering no news on PEE Dee F or in their media, they are denying all the reports that we did not attack. what can be reason?
no reliable pics available so far. alpha defence is stating he has a confiration.
Is this confirmed? Any one?
I know the IAF and Army has focused on the right priorities focusing on anti air and anti uav instead of offensive abilities. But if we want to control land in these countries and rule then we need 2000+ combat aircrafts along with 700-1300 medium-heavy support aircrafts to truly maintain a war tempo against both China and Pakistan.China is a different ball game.
Even there SAMs integrated with AWACS are required because of hilly terrain.
But no aircraft in the world has the legs (except ironically J20) to hurt China starting from anywhere in India.
Buying the beyond the horizon radar which can detect Stealth planes is much more important.
But because of distances involved and with China having such a huge buffer zone in between neither f35/rafale can hurt China heartland.
With regards to Pakistan, Because of distances involved precise missiles from the land or kamikaze drones would yeald better results.
(Just my two cents)
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No dissel for tanks, no wages for soldiers. Drag this state of conflict out for a year, without pushing it into war.
Pakistan economy will fold like a deck of cards. Then India wins strategic victory for free.
An attritional economic strategy. Kicking them in the stomach will work best here imo.
They are literally forcing our hand. They could have just stopped after the drone strikes instead they needed to get a reality check. Now the actual SEAD mission starts against them. Pakistan is unfortunately going to see some horrorsI suggest members to be less excited, even if we swatted f-16s, jf-17s it should not be the end of our response nor the Pakistani pilots should be returned again atleast for a year atleast, this will be a long haul and we should be aiming higher after every success and be firm and adaptive after any failure tactically.
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Karachi hit by Indian Navy...
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Captured PAF pilot...
Let's show them Indian Tea is much more FANTASTIC....
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Captured PAF pilot...
Let's show them Indian Tea is much more FANTASTIC....![]()
no, shootdown an awacs that will have loss of trained personnel and difficult to replace wartime
Do Not Think this is PAK
Seems some western country, not Pakistan
True, but Pakistan is still a nation state compared to the Taliban.Yes, it's the best strategy as long as foreign financial assistance doesn't come along to undo all the damage. But people in India want blood.
Any economic damage can be done to a limit. Afghanistan's biggest economy was its drug trade during 9/11, their poor economy didn't stop you from destroying whatever was left, did ya? It's the same thing.
The economic pressure will come, but this is about destroying Pakistan Army's name in the eyes of the Pakistani people. The US failed to do this to the Taliban in Afghanistan, which resulted in them coming back to power quite easily.
there are QRSAM, S-400, Akash, Barak - 8 and more. Can a member please game plan this and give us a deployment scenario ? My knowledge is limited when it comes to these systems.

this one is fake see the original video -
Any info on how many Akash systems are there and where are they deployed?These are the known sites of MRSAM and S-400 as of Dec 2024.
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We should have received 2 more batteries of MRSAM at the minimum by now. Maybe 3.
We would have moved the S-400 SAMs in NE to Pakistan too.