Maybe so. But we don't know what the plan is.
We can only hope. What if pak responded positively, or we didn't go hot for the denial?Picture abhi baki hai mere dost. This is the final war we are fighting with Pakistan. You will see in the afternoon tomorrow that Pakistan will reject all our demands in DGMO level talks and that will bring us out of this Pause in Op Sindoor.
It'd be interesting to see if those MKIs were using SAP-518 or DRDO HBJ pods though. The Russian SAPs would have weighed down the already heavily-laden ac lugging the giant Brahmos-A. I'm guessing it might have been the latter.
crazies in Iran chimp death to US and even burned down US embassy, west or some shit, still west talks with iran.Next time you wonder why diplomacy looked hamstrung take a look inwards.
Those cunts who printed the Shahada on sheets and put in on roads to stomp it and walk on it congrats assholes. Those photos made their way to the wider Islamic world.
The establishment’s wink and look the other way approach for these dogs has come to bite us. Iran which bombed Pak not so long ago is siding with Pak
India is reduced to giving apologies.
2016 - kick the can down the road
2019 - kick the can down the road
2025 - kick the can down the road
Each time the threshold for violence comes down.
Besides “sending a message” no tangible outcome has been secured.
If the nuclear factor forced the US and India held back as a mature power “having made its point” what will be the outcome in future conflicts?
IWT is still suspended. If Leaderji does walk the talk and stops the water from Pak rivers as per IWT allocation. What happens then?
Sindoor was India putting down a rabid pet belonging to a hostile neighbour. Pak went apeshit in the escalation ladder.
Water will be an existential crisis for them. If Leaderji manages to not fold under pressure again we will again see conflict soon. The same script will play again. Pak gets belt treatment. Pak talks nukes. Do we let US step in and save Pak once more?
There were spectacular successes on the military front. But now diplomatic side (all the way to Leaderji) need to pull their weight.
I can tell you the truth but will do so someother day. But No rafale or anyother ac was shot down. Some MAY HV suffered splinter damage. I am just GUESSING aLOUD.Overalll a good and professional briefing. Most importantly all our boys and girls have come home safe.
Whatever losses we took, we should replace the inventory ASAP.
This is just one example.crazies in Iran chimp death to US and even burned down US embassy, west or some shit, still west talks with iran.
Similarly, in west like france they publish random cartoons, mohemmdans chimp out nothing burger between countries.
Iranis thought gaurav arya is taking in some national tv, when he did it in his own yt channel GOI cannot do anything. It is upto iranis how they want it to gi
Yodha & Anidra are still under test. SPECTRA of F3R-I can intercept and geo-locate RF from 1GHz to 40GHz, that's ultra wideband. So maybe SPECTRA of our Rafales is already using GaN modules @Picdelamirand-oil, @Bon Plan
Current MKI's Dhruti with 1GHz to 18GHz interception window pales infront of what Rafale has currently. But we have upgraded SAP-514 pods after they were compromised in Ukraine war. Looks like our desi-upgrade was quite effective. These podded jammers can also produce plenty of power to do hostile jamming.
Both Rafale & MKI have totally different philosophy regarding air-combat and both have proved their worth to us this time around.
I think India and Pakistan were surprised that JD Vance said let them fight it's not our business. Spooked is not the right word I'd used of the reaction of both nations but it's not far off either. I think cht got real for both nations when it looked like both nations would have to figure it out by themselves how to end it and as the conflict started to escalate heading towards a path that nobody wanted that is when US/Orange man stepped in. Vance let them fight it out comment was a tactic by Trump administration.
China or Russia was not going to be able to mediate a ceasefire for obvious reasons only the US has this ability. There's a lot of hate towards the US and some of that hate is rightfully earned but when needed to stop a conflict between nuke nations the US still has some good use.
I'm starting to think that war between nuke nations will never escalate to the point where nukes might be used. A conflict between US and China over Taiwan will never get close to nuclear I think both know how far to take it before stepping back.
This Indian Pakistani conflict we just witness is as far/bad as it will ever get between both nuclear powers. Having nukes has really tied the hands of India and Pakistan on how far they can take a conflict against each other. If both nations had no nukes this conflict would be ugly right now with naval and land forces taking part.
Whether or not India achieved desired effects from its strikes, the mediatic buzz resulting from the aircraft loss has arguably undermined the operation’s political goals.
Drone expenditures have much less political salience than losing expensive fighters invested with national glory, and with people inside them.
When the political discourse devolves to defending defence purchases, when image mgmt teams flood the space with real and purported virtues of the platforms to mould public opinion what do you expect.Limited war, airplane losses are so gigantic and media attention hoggers.
One part done well post Balakot.
They seem to be testing the new redlines.Pakistani drones in Barmer. DC has given alert
@Mods, pls stop thos fake propaganda on this site. We must not become source of bulls**t here. Pls delete any post talking about Rafale being shot down.I would say have to agree with this article's conclusion.
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The Real Reason India's Dassault Rafale Jets Lost to Pakistan’s Air Force
Despite employing cutting-edge Dassault Rafale fighters and advanced missiles, photographic evidence indicates Pakistan's Air Force downed multiple Indian jets—including at least one Rafale—without confirmed losses.www.19fortyfive.com
Limited war, airplane losses are so gigantic and media attention hoggers.
Pakistan also had enough AWACS to make a huge difference.