Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

Picture abhi baki hai mere dost. This is the final war we are fighting with Pakistan. You will see in the afternoon tomorrow that Pakistan will reject all our demands in DGMO level talks and that will bring us out of this Pause in Op Sindoor.
We can only hope. What if pak responded positively, or we didn't go hot for the denial?
 
Some people think the US is declining, then in the next sentence will accuse America of strong arming everyone. I don't think it's as nefarious as ya'll make it seem. Did we apply pressure? Probably? But if you really wanted to go through, pressure is nothing.

Modi weighed his options and wanted this ceasefire, same with Pakistan. That's the only way two parties agree to a ceasefire.

Otherwise you get endless war like Ukraine/Russia. How effective has US pressure been on that kind of ceasefire?
 
It'd be interesting to see if those MKIs were using SAP-518 or DRDO HBJ pods though. The Russian SAPs would have weighed down the already heavily-laden ac lugging the giant Brahmos-A. I'm guessing it might have been the latter.

Wartime means it's likely to be the latter.

The MKI was likely used for forward sweep, that's with AAMs, hence the ability to fly over an air base unchallenged. With SAP-518, it cannot do that due to the performance penalty. The Russians screwed up there, or they probably designed it for A2G missions specifically.
 
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Next time you wonder why diplomacy looked hamstrung take a look inwards.

Those cunts who printed the Shahada on sheets and put in on roads to stomp it and walk on it congrats assholes. Those photos made their way to the wider Islamic world.

The establishment’s wink and look the other way approach for these dogs has come to bite us. Iran which bombed Pak not so long ago is siding with Pak

India is reduced to giving apologies.

crazies in Iran chimp death to US and even burned down US embassy, west or some shit, still west talks with iran.
Similarly, in west like france they publish random cartoons, mohemmdans chimp out nothing burger between countries.

Iranis thought gaurav arya is taking in some national tv, when he did it in his own yt channel GOI cannot do anything. It is upto iranis how they want it to gi
 
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2016 - kick the can down the road
2019 - kick the can down the road
2025 - kick the can down the road

Each time the threshold for violence comes down.

Besides “sending a message” no tangible outcome has been secured.

If the nuclear factor forced the US and India held back as a mature power “having made its point” what will be the outcome in future conflicts?

IWT is still suspended. If Leaderji does walk the talk and stops the water from Pak rivers as per IWT allocation. What happens then?

Sindoor was India putting down a rabid pet belonging to a hostile neighbour. Pak went apeshit in the escalation ladder.

Water will be an existential crisis for them. If Leaderji manages to not fold under pressure again we will again see conflict soon. The same script will play again. Pak gets belt treatment. Pak talks nukes. Do we let US step in and save Pak once more?

There were spectacular successes on the military front. But now diplomatic side (all the way to Leaderji) need to pull their weight.

Let's see what happens when we get our anti-nuke defenses in place. If that reduces risk from 80-90% destruction today to below 30%, then we could see the govt making better decisions.
 
Overalll a good and professional briefing. Most importantly all our boys and girls have come home safe.

Whatever losses we took, we should replace the inventory ASAP.
I can tell you the truth but will do so someother day. But No rafale or anyother ac was shot down. Some MAY HV suffered splinter damage. I am just GUESSING aLOUD.
 
crazies in Iran chimp death to US and even burned down US embassy, west or some shit, still west talks with iran.
Similarly, in west like france they publish random cartoons, mohemmdans chimp out nothing burger between countries.

Iranis thought gaurav arya is taking in some national tv, when he did it in his own yt channel GOI cannot do anything. It is upto iranis how they want it to gi
This is just one example.

Listen to Sharif’s address. His thank you piece is 5 min long. KSA, UAE, Qatar these were countries we actively courted. Iran hates Porks.

We managed to turn them into supporters.

There is a reason diplomacy exists and a need to isolate the enemy.
 
Yodha & Anidra are still under test. SPECTRA of F3R-I can intercept and geo-locate RF from 1GHz to 40GHz, that's ultra wideband. So maybe SPECTRA of our Rafales is already using GaN modules @Picdelamirand-oil, @Bon Plan

That's not what ultra-wideband means, but let's leave that for some other day.

Maybe Rafale F4 can be upgraded with GaN as part of ISE, but definitely not present on F3R today.

Current MKI's Dhruti with 1GHz to 18GHz interception window pales infront of what Rafale has currently. But we have upgraded SAP-514 pods after they were compromised in Ukraine war. Looks like our desi-upgrade was quite effective. These podded jammers can also produce plenty of power to do hostile jamming.

Both Rafale & MKI have totally different philosophy regarding air-combat and both have proved their worth to us this time around.

1-18 GHz is well within what's needed to defeat Pakistan's current capabilities. Frequencies above 18 GHz are meant for future threats. And this without even considering the new one. Anyway I was referring to hardware like GaN.

Yodha and Anidra were in final user trials back in Jan. So a number of jets will have already been upgraded for these trials. Due to the need to test the suite in all conditions, we will need multiple jets in multiple operational environments.
 
I think India and Pakistan were surprised that JD Vance said let them fight it's not our business. Spooked is not the right word I'd used of the reaction of both nations but it's not far off either. I think cht got real for both nations when it looked like both nations would have to figure it out by themselves how to end it and as the conflict started to escalate heading towards a path that nobody wanted that is when US/Orange man stepped in. Vance let them fight it out comment was a tactic by Trump administration.

China or Russia was not going to be able to mediate a ceasefire for obvious reasons only the US has this ability. There's a lot of hate towards the US and some of that hate is rightfully earned but when needed to stop a conflict between nuke nations the US still has some good use.

I'm starting to think that war between nuke nations will never escalate to the point where nukes might be used. A conflict between US and China over Taiwan will never get close to nuclear I think both know how far to take it before stepping back.

This Indian Pakistani conflict we just witness is as far/bad as it will ever get between both nuclear powers. Having nukes has really tied the hands of India and Pakistan on how far they can take a conflict against each other. If both nations had no nukes this conflict would be ugly right now with naval and land forces taking part.

As a rational actor, Pakistan knows the nukes are for deterrence, not for actual use. They don't wanna ruin their good lives after all.

Anyway, based on what we know, the Pakistanis went crying to Trump, so the US forced Pakistan to contact India via the hotline and negotiate a ceasefire. From the India side, there was no US pressure, Pakistan contacted for negotiations, and we seem to have agreed. It's unclear if they will finally agree to the terms we put forth, so things could go hot once again.
 
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I would say have to agree with this article's conclusion.


Whether or not India achieved desired effects from its strikes, the mediatic buzz resulting from the aircraft loss has arguably undermined the operation’s political goals.

Limited war, airplane losses are so gigantic and media attention hoggers.

Drone expenditures have much less political salience than losing expensive fighters invested with national glory, and with people inside them.

Pakistan also had enough AWACS to make a huge difference.
 
Limited war, airplane losses are so gigantic and media attention hoggers.
When the political discourse devolves to defending defence purchases, when image mgmt teams flood the space with real and purported virtues of the platforms to mould public opinion what do you expect.

The same public that was being fed the narrative that Rafale is the one stop answer to PAF and even PLAAF are only expecting delivery on the promises made.
 
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Some astrological insights.

India is undergoing the mahadasha of Chandrma with antardasa of Mangal. This is a deadly combination in Vishmottary dasha chakra. It makes a person Shatruhanta and makes him capable of performing Ashwamegh Yagya to make him a Chakarvarti Raja.. Modi is born in Vrishchak Lagna and Vrischak Rashi having one the most powerful panch Mahapurush yogas as per Sanatan astrology called Ruchak Yoga. Such people become Chakarvarthi kings and outstanding Rishis in their Sanyas Ashram.
Modi is in Mangal Mahadasha at this time. This aligns with Bharat ki mahadasha. Kal Poornmasi hai. Expect anything and most devastating to start before 14th as on 14th Jupiter becomes Atichari and moves to 2nd house of India which is house of Gains. We will get some territory addition and maybe more. Do you knw why this presser was done today, it was to incite Pakistan armed forces. As this will now be seen all across the world. Humne unko duniya ke saamne nanga kar diya hai. This Modi's way of working, ungli karo aur phir maaro. I will be least surprised if Pkaistan start off by tommorow morning itself.
 
I would say have to agree with this article's conclusion.




Limited war, airplane losses are so gigantic and media attention hoggers.



Pakistan also had enough AWACS to make a huge difference.
@Mods, pls stop thos fake propaganda on this site. We must not become source of bulls**t here. Pls delete any post talking about Rafale being shot down.