Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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Tbh wtr to AD if we mass induct our new Project Kusha and protect our main cities with AAD and PAD I think we can shoot down any Pakistani asset or missile or at least a good majority of them. Kusha and deployed AAD and PAD along with S400 and Barak 8, Akash and L70 is a very robust air defence capability. And also we need to induct Akash NG with 70 km range as well. As for air to air we need Super Sukhoi with 2400 TRM monster GaN AESA coupled with Astra Mk3. Astra Mk3 on Tejas Mk2 and Sukhoi MKI UPG will absolutely maul Pakistani 4th gen fighters and could probably confront J35 is it is roughly the same level as F15EX. But I don't think we can make MKI UPG deployed in mass numbers by 2030.
They will continue to get chinese jets and air to air weapons but for AD they will try Turkish me feels.
you need to think rationally not emotionally, if you want to ground their airforce then s400 is enuf. We just do more damage using minimum cost. Eastern frontier which more larger is where our BVR's will be needed.
we should move towards completely utilizing the river water, IWT should be consigned to dustbin. We should not yield to any western pressure. We can make that happen in another 5-10 years, slowly boil the frog.
yeah , Build more loitering drones at lesser cost and incorporate changes quickly. This is what is happening in ukraine war, russia is bring new drone tech to suit the battlefield. We need to simply overwhelm their military infra. Make them spend more on defence while strangulating their economy.
You have no idea. What you are asking is impossible. Not destroying air force. Thats the easy part. Getting Pakistan's delusional sense of pride destroyed. Thats the impossible part.
Let me put it in this way. You cannt turn a slut into a lady unless she wants it herself. You can beat her senseless, you can plead with her, you can show her what she is risking but if she is a slut, she will do slut like things. It should come from within her.
Its same thing with Pakistan. Pride is their survival mechanism. You can not break it. You can kill them but it will still not break it. The weaker they become, more intense it will get.
Its that bad that they will put their fingers in their ears and sing "la la la la" if they have to confront the reality.
You know, they break their TV when they hear their team defeated. In 1971, they believed that they were winning till the last moment. Then they blamed it on Yayah Khan and Hindu Baniya conspiracy. They call India "BaiGhaiRat" for defeating them. They even say "1971 had nothing to do with India, it was Pakistan's internal affair". Yes it is this bad.
These are the folks who believe in this idea of "Pakistan" to the extent that they will deny reality. In their mind, Pakistan is pure with just some impure people infecting it. The definition of impure changes by decade.
These are not people who will drop their pride for anything.
Without giving any face saver.. especially at the base.
Air engagement may come clean,
India snatched defeat from jaws of victory: Brahma Chellaney on ceasefire with Pak
Top geostrategist Brahma Chellaney criticised India’s decision to agree to a ceasefire with Pakistan, calling it a repeat of past strategic mistakes. He argued that India had the upper hand militarily but gave up its advantage without securing long-term gains.
Pakistani SM , DGISPR , world media, desi pandit like 2019 having verbal diarrhea that Pakistan won the game. Let them .IAF done so good for the rectification they made post Balakot. Let Pakistani modernization the AD , we will hit them with hypersonic weapon and harrass them with long range A2A missile. Dew will be mounted in border and on moving armour column.
There is no PAD(media made a mistake) now. It was replaced by PDV way back. Now very soon our Phase 2 BMD with AD1 & AD2 would get deployed then there is also Phase 3 BMD in development with AD-AH(anti-hypersonic). So once these get deployed along with Project Kusha, Akash-NG & VL-SRSAM plus QRSAM and High-Power DEW/Laser weapons in the next five years, our IADS will become even impenetrable for Chinese jets/missiles/drones. So good times for us and bad for our enemy.
Pakistan will then see what a real anti hypersonic BMD system is lol. Will be quite different than their lumber 1 air defence which they claimed can intercept Hypersonic projectiles. BTW sir what is the status of our Netra Mk1a and Mk2? Will we have at least 1 Netra Mk1a by 2030? I feel we absolutely need Netra mk1a at least before the next confrontation with the Pakistanis. They can be crucial not only for detecting PAF jets but also for BMD.
I was angry towards the bjp government after feb27 of 2019. Pakistan had bombed us,had an aerial kill of mig and the government didn't do anything visibly for that.
Modi & BJP government started earning my respect & many of Indians after Operation sindoor & following day.
But now I am disheartened by the ceasefire decision, we gave the victory in a plate to pakistan. Had we captured hajipur & neelm valley, pak PM would not have spoken the way he did last night in nation address. Will never forget this and will never forgive this.
In 1971 We won the battle field,and lost to negotiation table. Now we almost won,and lost on phone call.
Modi & BJP government started earning my respect & many of Indians after Operation sindoor & following day.
But now I am disheartened by the ceasefire decision, we gave the victory in a plate to pakistan. Had we captured hajipur & neelm valley, pak PM would not have spoken the way he did last night in nation address. Will never forget this and will never forgive this.
In 1971 We won the battle field,and lost to negotiation table. Now we almost won,and lost on phone call.
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I don't think I need to say anything. I showed you the photos and videos I saw. Your administrator deleted them for no reason. The only thing I need to remind you is that many of the destroyed fighter jets have no large-scale debris. Refer to the Russia-Ukraine battlefield. Due to India's media control, it's also very difficult for new photos and videos to be circulated.Apart from dismissing the tail fin for the moment. There's also an M88 video.
Discussed and rebuted here.
And this is the reason.
You can see the crater on the same type of terrain. The M88 crash site is way too clean.
Apart from that, all other crashes have no wreckages. There's one with a supposed Mirage 2000's M53, but no wreckage. There's another with 2 rings, we can't see the wreckage.
Here's a pic:
This pic was claimed to be 12 years old, but it's actually new. Google Lens sucks with dates. The ring (bottom right) and the wreckage are too small to be from a fighter jet's engine. The scale is completely off.
You can also see what look like two vertical fins. Those look MKI-sized, but the wreckage is too small to be MKI. So they could be fuselage parts from a UAV that are bent forward. It's much more similar to some kind of secret UAV or a Heron.
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The size seems appropriate for a UAV.
And this is the supposed Rafale crash site in Bathinda. It's way too small to be the Rafale.
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It's like a small garbage dump on the ground that doesn't even come up to knee height. The length is good for either a plane or a UAV, but the bulk is not that of a 10T machine. So that's likely another UAV.
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Any border change would involve a nuclear exchange.....is hajipur worth a nuclear exchange?
Islam is the problem. Pakistan is just manifestation of that problem.
I think India better concentrate on internal 0.5 and bangladesh. Implement UCC. They are breeding like rabbits, each with 4 wives.
Earlier it was like any aerial bombardment,any use of missile on pak airfield will attract nuke. Did they nuke us in last 4 days?
If we show the same Rafale jet in the parade, you will deny it because that's the behavior of typical propaganda, and that's how it works to create a false narrative. But it doesn't matter; we have penetrated the complete Chinese air defense, hitting HQ 19. So keep quiet... IAF has not confirmed any Rafale is down. In the future, we will get the details on Rafale.
We are underdogs on the negotiating table. It is a price we pay for not becoming a vassal state of the powers that be.