Nuclear MAD Scenario and possible effects in Indo Pak China context

You should read more about Nuclear weapons. Anything below 10 Kiloton yield is in effect a neutron bomb or a neutron flux / pulse devise as most of its energy is consumed in releasing high energy neutrons instead of creating a blast by heat via nuclear reaction.
Nasr warhead is only 30-35 Cm wide and less than 90 Kilos in weight. A small plutonium core with secondary stage of Deuterium.
You can do your own research what will happen to such a device.
I don't think so. Neutron Bomb or Enhanced Radiation Bomb requires a specific construction to maximize Gamma radiation and Neutron generation using fusion. It is a two stage thermonuclear bomb. Pakistan has never even attempted to test a two-stage weapon. This is different from a small fission bomb which Nasr warhead uses. At best it is boosted with tritium to make criticality feasible at lower yields. NASR warhead is more like W54 warhead with under 1 Kilotonne yield.
 
Yee, my point is to acquire every inch of land and leave nothing for the enemy. The enemy can then jump in the ocean or go to Antarctica. It is never possible to kill every enemy individually. The only practical way is to deprive enemy of land and water.

I am not fanatical nor do I care for Clausewitz. My way is simple - negotiate. When negotiation fail, attack and acquire everything that belongs to enemy as compensation.

War of annihilation is ancient. Vedas (of ancient ways of India, expected to be over 5000years old) asks to kill all demons. Christians killed/enslaved Europe making pagans extinct. Similarly muslims conquered Iran making parsis extinct. War of annihilation was never new

You are a fanatic.

Clausewitz defined war as a way to force the enemy to comply to our will, and the continuation of diplomacy through other means, rather than an alternative to it. The idea of a war of annihilation is something extremely new and modern, inherited from fascist thought which defined war as the natural, permanent state of mankind.

War is about forcibly obtaining de facto control over a territory. No more, no less. It can be tactically more advantageous to force the enemy to retreat rather than to attempt to kill them all, as the latter requires investing more resources to pursue them and may result in falling into a trap prepared by the enemy...
 
I don't think so. Neutron Bomb or Enhanced Radiation Bomb requires a specific construction to maximize Gamma radiation and Neutron generation using fusion. It is a two stage thermonuclear bomb. Pakistan has never even attempted to test a two-stage weapon. This is different from a small fission bomb which Nasr warhead uses. At best it is boosted with tritium to make criticality feasible at lower yields. NASR warhead is more like W54 warhead with under 1 Kilotonne yield.


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Neutron bombs are the stage bombs, not capable of fitting in NASR. The size of 1 feet diameter and 90kg weight is too small. The weight and dimensions for reflectors to transmit the first stage neutrons to the second stage makes the warhead bigger than what can fit into NASR.

I can agree that NASR can have boosted fission bombs, but 2 stage neutron bombs is a difficult proposition for the limited size. Making the second stage will require larger dimensions, though weight can be 100kg.

You should read more about Nuclear weapons. Anything below 10 Kiloton yield is in effect a neutron bomb or a neutron flux / pulse devise as most of its energy is consumed in releasing high energy neutrons instead of creating a blast by heat via nuclear reaction.
Nasr warhead is only 30-35 Cm wide and less than 90 Kilos in weight. A small plutonium core with secondary stage of Deuterium.
You can do your own research what will happen to such a device.
 
Neutron bombs are the stage bombs, not capable of fitting in NASR. The size of 1 feet diameter and 90kg weight is too small. The weight and dimensions for reflectors to transmit the first stage neutrons to the second stage makes the warhead bigger than what can fit into NASR.

I can agree that NASR can have boosted fission bombs, but 2 stage neutron bombs is a difficult proposition for the limited size. Making the second stage will require larger dimensions, though weight can be 100kg.
No country shares this info with another. Even British were not given nuclear weapon design by americans despite being involved in Manhattan project. Brits had to make own design. Point being the design varies wildly and same objective can be achieved in many ways.
You dont need reflectors to transmit heat for fusion in second stage. In fact the lack of reflectors causes release of high energy neutrons from the bomb making it a neutron bomb.
 
War of annihilation is ancient. Vedas (of ancient ways of India, expected to be over 5000years old) asks to kill all demons. Christians killed/enslaved Europe making pagans extinct. Similarly muslims conquered Iran making parsis extinct. War of annihilation was never new
Irani Parsis converted to Islam, they were not killed as Islam doesn't ask us to kill non Muslims, rather try and convert them to Islam. Sop there is the difference.
I must insist the thread is not about religion, and religious references will provoke similar responses.
 
You dont need reflectors to transmit heat for fusion in second stage. In fact the lack of reflectors causes release of high energy neutrons from the bomb making it a neutron bomb.
What is transmitted in sceond stage is essentially Gamma/X-ray radiation. Second stage works by compressing fusion fuel with radiation pressure.
 
Neutron bombs are the stage bombs, not capable of fitting in NASR. The size of 1 feet diameter and 90kg weight is too small. The weight and dimensions for reflectors to transmit the first stage neutrons to the second stage makes the warhead bigger than what can fit into NASR.

I can agree that NASR can have boosted fission bombs, but 2 stage neutron bombs is a difficult proposition for the limited size. Making the second stage will require larger dimensions, though weight can be 100kg.
You are suggesting the exact opposite. Staged nuclear bombs were designed to reduce size and weight of nuclear bombs not to increase it.
Any nation who can mount a Nuke on a missile has the technology to make staged nuclear devices otherwise its impossible to do with old gun type WW2 design.
 
Radioactivity is also not that high. Just 1 second of explosion is insufficient to produce such great amount of radioactivity. Nuclear power plant is a different case as they have waste products of several years and have been undergoing fission for every second and hence has a lot of nuclear by product.

One must not bother much about such radioactivity. Here is a video of a direct exposure whereby a 2kT bomb is exploded right on the heads of 5 soldiers at a height of 3km without any protection -

They lived till their ripe old age

2kt is not very powerful
 
What is transmitted in sceond stage is essentially Gamma/X-ray radiation. Second stage works by compressing fusion fuel with radiation pressure.
Yes and by reducing the thickness of the outer shell , the fission reaction energy is absorbed by layer of Hydrogen isotopes, causing fusin, and then there is nothing to stop this and the neutrons produced by Fusin are radiated out. In such design the oter shell is not made of dense Uranium or Plutonium to absorb the high energy neutrons and cause further nuclear reaction and increased blast yield.
The heat of the initial fission is already absorbed and consumed in Fusion reaction and the resultant blast yield is very low. Instead the neutrons carry all the energy, hence the notion "Neutron bomb".
The outer most shell is kept of just enough strength to allow the Hydrogen isotopes absorb heat and fuse.
 
I say ' Janani Janmabhoomischa Swargadapi Gariyasi '
Nothing more than Destroying our Enemy. JAI SHREE RAM, HARA HARA MAHADEV, Lets hear it....!
 
You are suggesting the exact opposite. Staged nuclear bombs were designed to reduce size and weight of nuclear bombs not to increase it.
Any nation who can mount a Nuke on a missile has the technology to make staged nuclear devices otherwise its impossible to do with old gun type WW2 design.

Actually, the 2 stage weapon is meant to reduce size per yield. However, the minimum size increases due to requirements of 2 stage and the reflectors.

The reflectors are needed to concentrate the primary fission/boosted fission neutrons into secondary stage. Without reflectors, the neutrons will scatter in a spherical manner and won't ignite second stage.

The boosted fission can't be used as the fusion material - Deuterium and tritium have to be placed in centre of plutonium which on increasing quantities will necessitate increase in size of outer plutonium shelland thus the explosive needed to mame the primary stage ignite will also have to be thickened.

The neutron bomb must be 2 staged one and hence due to above mentioned reasons, has to be larger than NASR loadout
 
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Yes and by reducing the thickness of the outer shell , the fission reaction energy is absorbed by layer of Hydrogen isotopes, causing fusin, and then there is nothing to stop this and the neutrons produced by Fusin are radiated out. In such design the oter shell is not made of dense Uranium or Plutonium to absorb the high energy neutrons and cause further nuclear reaction and increased blast yield.
The heat of the initial fission is already absorbed and consumed in Fusion reaction and the resultant blast yield is very low. Instead the neutrons carry all the energy, hence the notion "Neutron bomb".
The outer most shell is kept of just enough strength to allow the Hydrogen isotopes absorb heat and fuse.
Two stage nuclear weapons have not been tested by Pakistan. ERW are even harder than a thermonuclear bomb because you want to limit the energy release as thermal and shockwave.
 
Irani Parsis converted to Islam, they were not killed as Islam doesn't ask us to kill non Muslims, rather try and convert them to Islam. Sop there is the difference.
I must insist the thread is not about religion, and religious references will provoke similar responses.

I must also clarify here to both of you here.

1) That there is no such entity called an Irani Parsi

2) That Parsis are those Zoroastrian Persians who never converted. And settled in India around 1300 to 1000 years ago.

Those Zoroastrian Persians who came and settled in India much later (and who speak Dari and not Gujarati) over the past 300 odd years, and by land and not sea, and who run most of the ubiquitous Irani cafes in India, are called Irani Zoroastrians. As we are called Parsi Zoroastrians.

I will of course choose to not get into the docile and non-malignant implied peaceful mass conversion of Zoroastrian Persia that most Muslims are wont to propagate. Especially most Muslims who are descendants of peoples converted under the sword of Islam.

Only the Arabs make no bones about how it was done. Though even there their Abbasids chose to weave many myths in the 300 years post Al Qadisiya.

I do not want to make this a religious thread, but made the post only to clarify a point directly related to my people.

There are close to 150,000 Parsis around the world today. India ceased to be the largest Parsi population sometime when I was growing up. Now the center of Parsis in the world is the USA and Canada, with the second largest population still in India.

There are around 25 million crypto-Zoroastrians still living in Iran. Persians. But who are nominal Muslims in the outside world.

There are another 3-5 million Zoroastrians still living in other once-Zoroastrian nations (Azerbaijan and other central Asian -an's ...).

Of the 7 holiest fires, 5 are housed in India, and 2 still burn in Iran. There are no equivalent fires anywhere else in the world.

Cheers, Doc
 
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