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High End user have dedicated WiFi in their split level apartments, offices and on the road, they have 4G. Rest of India does not even need more than 3G. ISP will optimize their investments for what sells. At best you will get partial 4/5G coverage with bandwidth limited by backbone network. There may be an improvement of latency. I don't know where it will be used for.
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High end users would be large corporates and such, not a regular subscriber who wants internet for Youtube and songs.

However gaming is going to become a big thing because of 5G. You will not need a high end smartphone or computer to play high end games for example. Cloud gaming is going to be the next big thing for consumers.
 

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High end users would be large corporates and such, not a regular subscriber who wants internet for Youtube and songs.
I have worked for almost 5 big household name corporates two in finance and three in core tech. Common theme is this : whenever possible use wired connectivity. Its cheaper, relatively congestion free and scalable. When it comes to "mobile" strategy, the goal is always to use mobile networks as message carrier when a propriety network is not present. Even 4G is overkill for that usage. Most business application are relatively tolerant to latency and seldom need bandwidth like say video streaming does. Where they need bandwidth, mostly, a wired connection is preferred.
Now, not saying that there is NEVER going to be a use-case for 5-G networks in business, I don't know if any known use cases are there right now. Especially if you have 4G. And if you are talking about "unknowns", all I will say is that we should cross the bridge when we reach there. I dont see us reaching there anytime soon.

However gaming is going to become a big thing because of 5G. You will not need a high end smartphone or computer to play high end games for example. Cloud gaming is going to be the next big thing for consumers.
Too niche of a use-case. Besides, "low latency" and "high bandwidth" come at a premium: Battery life. There is very less escaping that. Among storage, compute, telecom and chemical industry; storage is fastest evolving, telecom is very near second evolving(2G-2G Edge-3G-4G), compute is a very near third and chemical is so slow evolving that it is a different universe, not just planet.

So yes, "Cloud Gaming" may be a big thing. It just that, it will require a low latency network which spares battery to make sense on the road. 4G can do it already, given you don't send and receive too much data. Just messages. In the room, you will prefer WiFi -- saves battery and is generally much faster and cheaper. I don't want to get into the entire discussion of "predictable latency" and "unpredictable latency" as it is a topic of its own.

BTW, Cloud Gaming is already a "thing". Its a thing on consoles and desktop. It works there well precisely because you don't have to worry about bandwidth, latency and battery at the same time. You can play games with low latency wide enough wired internet without worrying about buying new graphics gear.
 

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Huawei ousted from heart of EU as Nokia wins Belgian 5G contracts​

STOCKHOLM/PARIS (Reuters) - Orange and Proximus have picked Nokia to help build 5G networks in Belgium as they drop Huawei amid U.S. pressure to exclude the Chinese firm from supplying key telecoms equipment.

The EU flag and a smartphone with the Huawei and 5G network logo are seen on a PC motherboard in this illustration taken January 29, 2020. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration

The moves are among the first by commercial operators in Europe to drop Huawei from next-generation networks and come after months of diplomatic pressure from Washington, which alleges Huawei equipment could be used by Beijing for spying.

The Belgian capital Brussels is home to the NATO alliance and the European Union’s executive and parliament, making it a matter of particular concern for U.S. intelligence agencies.

“Belgium has been 100% reliant on Chinese vendors for its radio networks - and people working at NATO and the EU were making mobile phone calls on these networks,” said John Strand, an independent Danish telecoms consultant.

“The operators are sending a signal that it’s important to have access to safe networks.”

The United States welcomed the decisions by Orange Belgium and Proximus, which have a network sharing agreement.

“This is the latest example of evaporating Huawei deals and further confirmation of this worldwide momentum towards trusted vendors,” said Keith Krach, the U.S. undersecretary at the State Department for economic growth, energy and the environment.

Huawei [HWT.UL], the world’s biggest telecoms equipment supplier, strongly denies the U.S. allegations and has been highly critical of calls to ban it from 5G contracts.

However, it said on Friday it accepted the decisions by Orange Belgium and Proximus, which confirmed an earlier Reuters exclusive.

“This is the outcome of a tender organised by operators and the result of the free market,” a Huawei spokesman said.

“We embrace fair competition, the more diversified a supply chain the more competitive it becomes,” he said, adding Huawei had been supplying equipment in Belgium for more than a decade and its commitment remained unchanged.

The decisions leave Liberty Group’s Telenet as the only mobile carrier in Belgium yet to say which supplier it will use for its next mobile networks. Telenet currently relies on equipment made by China’s ZTE, and plans to announce its 5G decision in the first half of 2021, a spokeswoman said.

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The deals to supply radio gear to Orange Belgium and Proximus are a boost for Nokia, which struggled to make headway in the 5G market earlier this year even as Huawei was under pressure.

“I have tried to become RAN (radio access network) supplier to Orange Belgium since 2003 when the company was still Mobistar. Here we are, finally,” tweeted Tommi Uitto, president of Nokia Mobile Networks.

The companies did not disclose a value for the contracts.

Nokia shares were up 3% in afternoon trading.

Orange Belgium and Proximus said Ericsson would supply the core of their 5G networks, a smaller slice of business.

EU members have been stepping up scrutiny of so-called high-risk vendors. This subjects Huawei’s governance and technology to critical examination and is likely to lead other European operators to strip it from their networks, analysts say.

Nokia and Ericsson have been the main beneficiaries of the challenges facing Huawei. From Bell Canada and Telus Corp in Canada to BT in Britain, the Nordic companies have been grabbing market share from the Chinese firm.

Separately, Nokia said it had won a contract to provide data management software to Telefonica UK, which said the Finnish firm would replace the less than 1% of Huawei kit in its network.
 
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