News Modi vindicated as IIM study debunks jobless growth theory, says 15 million added to labour force yearly

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Any way the report in FE is misleading at worst or confusing at best. But it does show a better picture than previous reports.

Funny thing is in the previous reports, the job growth under much faster growing economy under congress was also poor, yet rahul gandhi keeps yapping like a baffoon.

I find all these reports incomplete as they do not answer the following

1 how many in unorganised sector
2 how many in agriculture
3 how many self employed

Oh, really? The answers:
  1. Approximately 4 to 5 million, out of a total of 5 to 5.5 million employed, every year; the cumulative total is not very accurately known.
  2. Seasonal; approximately 2 million at the bottom, around 5 to 6 million at seasonal peaks.
  3. About 500,000, 0.5 million.
 
First things first.

Positives- In 70 years of Indian independence no work has ever been done to measure unemployment. Its a joke on what basis the governments till now measured it. But according to a debate I saw on tv and other news articles, NITI Aayog is finally formulating a way to measure unemployment.

Negatives: In this report it assumes 40% voluntarily stays out of work due to business/agriculture. How do they know it if they still formulating a method for measuring it? 40% is a huge number to be left to assumption.

As far as I know, atleast in TN, job creation has reached a nadir in the last 3-4 years, thanks to AIADMK government performance. Other states might be doing good but its for them to furnish a report on it.
 
Mate the history and animosity seems to be quite deep. Becomes monotonous and boring - almost to the point of "systamatic bullying". Not pretty - but im sure @bonobashi can handle it....

It's more rank hypocrisy that gets the goat of people there . While one can't deny the no of devotees of Modi , who take umbrage over anything containing a whiff of what they would perceive as disparaging of their diety , including out here , the past two years have had a sobering effect on them .

Out here , it's his back handedness , disparaging comments , undermining of opposing points of view , attempted browbeating & bullying , holier than thou attitude all while claiming the high ground for better discourse and higher standards on this forum while ignoring and providing cover to ideologically aligned members who can be categorized as trolls just as there are RW trolls out here .

But this isn't exclusively why he's despised . Most of the so called " Dirty Dozen " and others out here , passive observers perhaps who've yet to become members or actively contribute out here apart from many members who're still on PDF have had first hand experience or witnessed episodes where he's entrapped members on PDF , while getting into slanging matches with them or censuring their comments with negative marks - one of the privileges he enjoyed over there , getting such inconvenient members infractions issued courtesy friendly moderators or ganging up with exclusively Pakistani members to harangue members who refused to be cowed down , forcing infractions and possible bans , just because they happened to have an opposing point of view .

And I'm not bringing up the issue of certified trolls here of whom there were quite a few our there who contributed nothing of value - the bane of any forum .


I challenge anyone out here who's been witness to such disgraceful and disgusting behaviour by someone considered as "mature and knowledgeable " as the member in question , to dispute my statement .

To an ordinary Indian member this was a double whammy . On the one hand the atmosphere there was hostile to begin with given the usual state of affairs between the two inimical nations , facing as they were an overwhelmingly hostile Pak membership apart from the Bangladeshis and of late a legion of Chinese members equally hostile , biased moderators and then to make matters worse this member who'd turn on his compatriots . Now I'm referring to sane and sober posters not the low quality ones or the trolls out there .

There were other Indian title holders there too some of whom are present here and can match this member in terms of sheer knowledge but have you ever wondered why's it they're never in the line of fire out here , however much they disagree with opposing points of view .

I must recount an interesting incident I happened to witness first hand on PDF which involves the afore said member a few years ago. There was this thread (I forget the topic ) on which the discussions veered around to the Prophet . This was around the time SHEIKH Haseena dismissed one of her ministers for blaspheming . The gist of what that minister said was that he considered the Prophet to be running an organised gang centred around extortion of pilgrims to Mecca by taking advantage of their piety just as the Quraish had done before him by prescribing Haj as one of the pillars of Islam .

Smart Alec here said something similar couched in less offensive and obtuse language till a perceptive member - a Pakistani called him out and challenged him . What happened after that was memorable . Our esteemed member here started passing out stones from his backside . Perhaps all those visions of being issued infractions , getting banned , losing his privileges apart from his standing , etc came across just as a man going out of this world has in his final moments his life flash across before his eyes . What followed was highly amusing - He issued fervid explanations , deleted his own posts , amended others all while claiming to have the highest respect for all religious figures particularly the Prophet . Now , apart from the fact he's a self declared atheist and like all atheists has a dim view on religion apart from religious figures , had any reactionary Indian member posted it , he would've immediately censured such a post with a negative mark apart from calling such an infraction out loud , to curry favour with the mob out there .

It's this hypocrisy , which casts a cloud over his knowledge and sheer grasp over certain subjects , which his detractors here detest - something that's mutual but something which he can't do much about , much to his despair .
 
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It's more rank hypocrisy that gets the goat of people there . While one can't deny the no of devotees of Modi , who take umbrage over anything containing a whiff of what they would perceive as disparaging of their diety , including out here , the past two years have had a sobering effect on them .

Out here , it's his back handedness , disparaging comments , undermining of opposing points of view , attempted browbeating & bullying , holier than thou attitude all while claiming the high ground for better discourse and higher standards on this forum while ignoring and providing cover to ideologically aligned members who can be categorized as trolls just as there are RW trolls out here .

But this isn't exclusively why he's despised . Most of the so called " Dirty Dozen " and others out here , passive observers perhaps who've yet to become members or actively contribute out here apart from many members who're still on PDF have had first hand experience or witnessed episodes where he's entrapped members on PDF , while getting into slanging matches with them or censuring their comments with negative marks - one of the privileges he enjoyed over there , getting such inconvenient members infractions issued courtesy friendly moderators or ganging up with exclusively Pakistani members to harangue members who refused to be cowed down , forcing infractions and possible bans , just because they happened to have an opposing point of view .

And I'm not bringing up the issue of certified trolls here of whom there were quite a few our there who contributed nothing of value - the bane of any forum .


I challenge anyone out here who's been witness to such disgraceful and disgusting behaviour by someone considered as "mature and knowledgeable " as the member in question , to dispute my statement .

To an ordinary Indian member this was a double whammy . On the one hand the atmosphere there was hostile to begin with given the usual state of affairs between the two inimical nations , facing as they were an overwhelmingly hostile Pak membership apart from the Bangladeshis and of late a legion of Chinese members equally hostile , biased moderators and then to make matters worse this member who'd turn on his compatriots . Now I'm referring to sane and sober posters not the low quality ones or the trolls out there .

There were other Indian title holders there too some of whom are present here and can match this member in terms of sheer knowledge but have you ever wondered why's it they're never in the line of fire out here , however much they disagree with opposing points of view .

I must recount an interesting incident I happened to witness first hand on PDF which involves the afore said member a few years ago. There was this thread (I forget the topic ) on which the discussions veered around to the Prophet . This was around the time SHEIKH Haseena dismissed one of her ministers for blaspheming . The gist of what that minister said was that he considered the Prophet to be running an organised gang centred around extortion of pilgrims to Mecca by taking advantage of their piety just as the Quraish had done before him by prescribing Haj as one of the pillars of Islam .

Smart Alec here said something similar couched in less offensive and obtuse language till a perceptive member - a Pakistani called him out and challenged him . What happened after that was memorable . Our esteemed member here started passing out stones from his backside . Perhaps all those visions of being issued infractions , getting banned , losing his privileges apart from his standing , etc came across just as a man going out of this world has in his final moments his life flash across before his eyes . What followed was highly amusing - He issued fervid explanations , deleted his own posts , amended others all while claiming to have the highest respect for all religious figures particularly the Prophet . Now , apart from the fact he's an atheist , had any reactionary Indian member posted it , he would-be immediately censure such a post with a negative mark apart from calling such an infraction out loud .

It's this hypocrisy , which casts a cloud over his knowledge and sheer grasp over certain subjects and which his detractors here detest - something that's mutual but something which he can't do much about , much to his despair .

A pretty stupid analysis. A simple count of the negative ratings handed out to Indian and to Pakistani members would put that at rest. But that is the kind of trouble that determined bigots and saboteurs will never undertake.

As for the undue influencing of the moderators, my conversations with the moderators have been regarding their laissez faire policy of allowing entry to one and all, and then living to rue the day. I can pull out at random half a dozen posts from moderators regretting that I had not complained to them, and that they had to discover some unsavoury exchanges for themselves and undertaken surgery.

Naturally from the outside, thwarted of the chance to blackmail and bully milder tempered members, these are unwelcome reflections. Unfortunately, they are true.

And what failed to come out in this charge-sheet is the personal vilification that I have had to suffer on a sustained basis, where many ordinary Pakistani members protested, but few or none of the Indians did. Did people like this one ever feel the need to support a single opponent of a group intent on drowning out a resisting voice? No, they just skulked on the borderlines and came in once the blood was on the floor.

Cowards.
 
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A pretty stupid analysis. A simple count of the negative ratings handed out to Indian and to Pakistani members would put that at rest. But that is the kind of trouble that determined bigots and saboteurs will never undertake.
I'm least interested in keeping tabs on your unequivocal record of censuring posts .Forums maybe your idea of a life not mine . For vainglory in the virtual world is what you seek .
 
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I'm least interested in keeping tabs on your unequivocal record of censuring posts .Forums maybe your idea of a life not mine . For vainglory in the virtual world is what you seek .

Perhaps. Perhaps not. How would you know? Isn't it presumptuous to assume that merely because you personally cannot handle multiple fronts of their lives, others can't?

The keeping tabs on censure was to separate out idle speculation and conspiracy theories on your part from cold hard irrefutable fact on mine. It is depressing to think that the answers are clear and incontrovertible, isn't it?
 
I'm least interested in keeping tabs on your unequivocal record of censuring posts .Forums maybe your idea of a life not mine . For vainglory in the virtual world is what you seek .

And, incidentally, look at what is happening here, just to prove my point. You post a long and totally unfounded bit of shit without knowing anything of what went on internally, based only on speculation, and when I answered, offering hard, concrete evidence that you are wrong, you don't have the balls to admit that you were wrong. Even to think that you might not be right. The only reaction is to explain to the world at large how superior you are and therefore do not find the need to explain your slander.

Not much of a change, is there?
 
And what failed to come out in this charge-sheet is the personal vilification that I have had to suffer on a sustained basis, where many ordinary Pakistani members protested, but few or none of the Indians did. Did people like this one ever feel the need to support a single opponent of a group intent on drowning out a resisting voice? No, they just skulked on the borderlines and came in once the blood was on the floor.

That's a question you should be asking yourself . Or perhaps you ought to refer to the "charge sheet " as to why you were so unpopular with the Indian membership out there or here .
 
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Perhaps. Perhaps not. How would you know? Isn't it presumptuous to assume that merely because you personally cannot handle multiple fronts of their lives, others can't?

The keeping tabs on censure was to separate out idle speculation and conspiracy theories on your part from cold hard irrefutable fact on mine. It is depressing to think that the answers are clear and incontrovertible, isn't it?
Hard cold irrefutable facts !!! Where are they? In case you haven't noticed it's your word against mine. Should we call for a vote to determine whose word carries more currency ?
 
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And, incidentally, look at what is happening here, just to prove my point. You post a long and totally unfounded bit of shit without knowing anything of what went on internally, based only on speculation, and when I answered, offering hard, concrete evidence that you are wrong, you don't have the balls to admit that you were wrong. Even to think that you might not be right. The only reaction is to explain to the world at large how superior you are and therefore do not find the need to explain your slander.

Not much of a change, is there?

Please prove me wrong . I'd love to be proved wrong. Proving ones superiority is right up your alley not mine as members here will gladly testify.
 
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Hard cold irrefutable facts . Where are they? In case you haven't noticed it's your word against mine. Should we call for a vote to determine whose word carries more currency ?

Disingenous? No, I haven't noticed, because I wasn't talking up in the air. I was referring to the concrete record of ratings given. You can't get more hard core than that. And a vote? From those whom I have shown up to be shallow, to be unable to read, to be unable to comprehend what they have managed to read, to be factually wrong, to be defective in their reasoning?

Was that a joke?
 
Please prove me wrong . I'd love to be proved wrong. Proving ones superiority is right up your alley not mine as members here will gladly testify.

LOL.

You seem to be obsessed with the idea that members here will support you rather than me. Does that console you? If so, I am glad for your sake.
 
Unpopular with the Indian membership? Let me say it out straight: I couldn't care less. Most of them, the bulk, are under-educated, shallow and ignorant; I am supposed to care about being popular with them? Because I did not back their raving hero-worship of a blood-stained criminal, they hound me and I am supposed to be sensitive to that?
Neither do most informed members @ hero worship. That doesn't mean they go about denigrating others for opposing points of view. Besides the issue here is hardly hero worshipping. it's about intolerance of opposing points of view
 
Disingenous? No, I haven't noticed, because I wasn't talking up in the air. I was referring to the concrete record of ratings given. You can't get more hard core than that. And a vote? From those whom I have shown up to be shallow, to be unable to read, to be unable to comprehend what they have managed to read, to be factually wrong, to be defective in their reasoning?

Was that a joke?

And again, I repeat: this is the classic pattern. With your rhodomontade in tatters around your ankles, you now have to appeal to your comrades. Nothing new about it.
 
Neither do most informed members @ hero worship. That doesn't mean they go about denigrating others for opposing points of view. Besides the issue here is hardly hero worshipping. it's about intolerance of opposing points of view

What is wrong with intolerance of bad facts and worse logic? Is it given greater dignity by terming these as 'points of view'?
 
Disingenous? No, I haven't noticed, because I wasn't talking up in the air. I was referring to the concrete record of ratings given. You can't get more hard core than that. And a vote? From those whom I have shown up to be shallow, to be unable to read, to be unable to comprehend what they have managed to read, to be factually wrong, to be defective in their reasoning?

Was that a joke?
That's your view @to be unable to read, to be unable to comprehend what they have managed to read. You could take a leaf out of the rulebook here and ignore them. If you persist in enjoying your petty ways , why grudge then their kicks ?
 
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Unpopular with the Indian membership? Let me say it out straight: I couldn't care less. Most of them, the bulk, are under-educated, shallow and ignorant; I am supposed to care about being popular with them? Because I did not back their raving hero-worship of a blood-stained criminal, they hound me and I am supposed to be sensitive to that?

Wow - the whole forum ought to see what Joe Shearer thinks of the vast majority of Indian members and even our Prime Minister. The truth comes out at last. Incredible. @Aashish @Shashank @Bharath @Ashwin @nair , is this any way to talk about fellow forum members, fellow Indians or the Prime Minister? Is this how you guys will lead the forum in a positive direction or grow its membership?
 
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