Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

jetray said:
huawei is not just selling hardware it is selling complete ecosystem of services and hardware is just part of it. It is trying to become cisco of mobile networking world. Based on your understanding we should completely write off intel/amd and only microsoft/facebook should be considered important. Other chinese companies will ride on huawei's offering and will rival western companies, thats the reason why US does not want to give huawei a foot hold in the industry to grow further.
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Bad analogy. Intel/AMD have no other competitors. The correct analogy would be write off Honda and pick Hyundai or any other car maker.

When it comes to 5G, there are many, many companies.

I have no clue what Huawei is offering in terms of services, but I'm sure it's all backed up with Chinese apps that need to be banned. At the very least, they need to ban Chinese apps and demand opening up of Chinese internet to foreign companies.

I don't think anybody understands what's actually happening. We need economic action NOW, not what something may offer sometime in the future. If action is not taken now, then the EU's inaction will simply allow China to take more drastic steps with respect to their neighbours just a little while later. People in the West will lose interest quickly because it's not happening to them.
 
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randomradio said:
Of course not. That's just posturing. Power projection.
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Wait for some time. US could afford power projection by sending a fraction of its carrier fleet. UK is sending its lone carrier which is something more than mere posturing.
 
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randomradio said:
Because, logically, most of the information worth stealing will not be on Chinese networks. Companies will ensure that, especialyl since advanced economies have at least 1 or more service providers that are not using Huawei. It's just the local population using Huawei that will be under risk, but govts already understand that risk and some are willing to take such risks, because sensible people will avoid Huawei networks in the first place.
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You are grossly underestimating the advancement in snooping tech. Once you allow Huawe to setup it's network infra in your country there is no stopping of it from putting snooping tools everywhere which would enable it to spy on other networks too. If this threat was so insignificant then USA won't have been heel bent to ban Huawe.
And lastly never trust the 'sensibility' of masses.
 
Aurora said:
Wait for some time. US could afford power projection by sending a fraction of its carrier fleet. UK is sending its lone carrier which is something more than mere posturing.
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Britain can't do anything there.

Aurora said:
You are grossly underestimating the advancement in snooping tech. Once you allow Huawe to setup it's network infra in your country there is no stopping of it from putting snooping tools everywhere which would enable it to spy on other networks too. If this threat was so insignificant then USA won't have been heel bent to ban Huawe.
And lastly never trust the 'sensibility' of masses.
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I think you are overestimating Huawei. The Chinese cannot touch what they do not own.
 
Anand12 said:
Sir, I think we need to wait for some more time to show what MSD will teach the Chene as well as their Iron Brothers ! Let us give them some more time !
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Sir, I think we need to lock this thread and open it again when there is another Chinese intrusion. For this season, its over. Although India has shown China it's place but the root problem is not solved. And Chinese have not vacated completely.
Hopefully in the coming 4 years this will be addressed as well. Right now management of Corona crisis and uplifting Economy and uprooting Sonia and party from India is the priority.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Chinese have refused to withdraw from F5 and also Depsang plains untill India agrees to the redrawn LAC. They have also refused to demarcate any LAC on maps/ground. They may reoccupy the high ground on F4.
Battlelines are drawn. The game is on.
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Shouldn't there be places along the LAC that we can take over that will allow us to threaten the main highway? Do a 1965 on them and open up other fronts.

But yeah, they are happily sitting across our red line right now.
 
randomradio said:
Shouldn't there be places along the LAC that we can take over that will allow us to threaten the main highway? Do a 1965 on them and open up other fronts.

But yeah, they are happily sitting across our red line right now.
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We can drive them away from Tibet. They are testing our resolve.
 
vstol Jockey said:
Chinese have refused to withdraw from F5 and also Depsang plains untill India agrees to the redrawn LAC. They have also refused to demarcate any LAC on maps/ground. They may reoccupy the high ground on F4.
Battlelines are drawn. The game is on.
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There's no game on. The Chinese have sensed that Modi has no stomach for a fight. They did try & provoke a response on 15th June. Modi didn't take the bait. More importantly , The IA was restrained . Had they responded to the provocation with gunfire, Modi's hand would have been forced & today we'd be in the midst of a conflict where we'd be taking more losses than inflicting it for the Chinese came well prepared with the intention to wage war.

If you have noticed Gen Rawat has clammed up.
I've read links in PKS's blog quoting news paper sources that Modi's extremely angry with Gen Rawat & Lt Gen Harinder Singh for their failure to anticipate Chinese action & the latter's failure to pre empt the Chinese before they could occupy those areas they did.

Now unless the Chinese get too greedy & try to make further advances, we already have a new status quo & there's nothing Modi can do except grit his teeth & bear it.

Frankly, I don't see Modi initiating a conflict or even attempt to pay the Chinese back in their own coin by seizing areas under their control and then negotiating for a quid pro quo. This means our forces will be sitting out there face to face with the Chinese till the next time the Chinese decide to re enact what they've done this May. I think we can safely expect such an event in the next 2-3 years. Mostly by 2022 . @randomradio
 
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There's no game on. The Chinese have sensed that Modi has no stomach for a fight. They did try & provoke a response on 15th June. Modi didn't take the bait. More importantly , The IA was restrained . Had they responded to the provocation with gunfire, Modi's hand would have been forced & today we'd be in the midst of a conflict where we'd be taking more losses than inflicting it for the Chinese came well prepared with the intention to wage war.

If you have noticed Gen Rawat has clammed up.
I've read links in PKS's blog quoting news paper sources that Modi's extremely angry with Gen Rawat & Lt Gen Harinder Singh for their failure to anticipate Chinese action & the latter's failure to pre empt the Chinese before they could occupy those areas they did.

Now unless the Chinese get too greedy & try to make further advances, we already have a new status quo & there's nothing Modi can do except grit his teeth & bear it.

Frankly, I don't see Modi initiating a conflict or even attempt to pay the Chinese back in their own coin by seizing areas under their control and then negotiating for a quid pro quo. This means our forces will be sitting out there face to face with the Chinese till the next time the Chinese decide to re enact what they've done this May. I think we can safely expect such an event in the next 2-3 years. Mostly by 2022 . @randomradio
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I am merely 9.5 days before reiterating my demand of dissolving all our armed forces while maintaining only policing force.

Please remind me if I forgets.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
There's no game on. The Chinese have sensed that Modi has no stomach for a fight. They did try & provoke a response on 15th June. Modi didn't take the bait. More importantly , The IA was restrained . Had they responded to the provocation with gunfire, Modi's hand would have been forced & today we'd be in the midst of a conflict where we'd be taking more losses than inflicting it for the Chinese came well prepared with the intention to wage war.

If you have noticed Gen Rawat has clammed up.
I've read links in PKS's blog quoting news paper sources that Modi's extremely angry with Gen Rawat & Lt Gen Harinder Singh for their failure to anticipate Chinese action & the latter's failure to pre empt the Chinese before they could occupy those areas they did.

Now unless the Chinese get too greedy & try to make further advances, we already have a new status quo & there's nothing Modi can do except grit his teeth & bear it.

Frankly, I don't see Modi initiating a conflict or even attempt to pay the Chinese back in their own coin by seizing areas under their control and then negotiating for a quid pro quo. This means our forces will be sitting out there face to face with the Chinese till the next time the Chinese decide to re enact what they've done this May. I think we can safely expect such an event in the next 2-3 years. Mostly by 2022 . @randomradio
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For the time being we are not prepared militarily and also economically we need substitution for chinese imports especially pharma. Would say give another 2-3 months to see how things move. If Modi does not pay back china , he will share nehru's legacy.

The difference is quite stark between two countries, amit shahs & rajnath singh's are thinking about rajasthan or karnataka while Xi & his minions are busy plotting on SCS or India. It quite clearly shows where the focus lies for both countries and results should not surprise anyone.
 
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There's no game on. The Chinese have sensed that Modi has no stomach for a fight. They did try & provoke a response on 15th June. Modi didn't take the bait. More importantly , The IA was restrained . Had they responded to the provocation with gunfire, Modi's hand would have been forced & today we'd be in the midst of a conflict where we'd be taking more losses than inflicting it for the Chinese came well prepared with the intention to wage war.

If you have noticed Gen Rawat has clammed up.
I've read links in PKS's blog quoting news paper sources that Modi's extremely angry with Gen Rawat & Lt Gen Harinder Singh for their failure to anticipate Chinese action & the latter's failure to pre empt the Chinese before they could occupy those areas they did.

Now unless the Chinese get too greedy & try to make further advances, we already have a new status quo & there's nothing Modi can do except grit his teeth & bear it.

Frankly, I don't see Modi initiating a conflict or even attempt to pay the Chinese back in their own coin by seizing areas under their control and then negotiating for a quid pro quo. This means our forces will be sitting out there face to face with the Chinese till the next time the Chinese decide to re enact what they've done this May. I think we can safely expect such an event in the next 2-3 years. Mostly by 2022 . @randomradio
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2023 preferably.
 
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