JIYO PARSI - Asking Parsis to Have More Kids, in the Most Regressive and Patriarchal Way

Mrs Awat Darya

Representative of the Kurdistan Zoroastrians in the Kurdistan Government, addresses the gathering at The California Zoroastrian Center
on April 9, 2017

“Ladies and gentlemen On behalf of the
Yasna organization, to which I and
the entire Zoroastrian community in
Kurdistan belong, I welcome you
all and thank you for your presence. I thank
all those who have come from far distances.
I also thank all Yasna members for their
steadfast work to show our Good Religion to
the oppressed people. I thank my beloved
husband Jamal for his continued support.
In the last few days your generous hospitality
has made us very happy and we feel we are
among our own families. It is truly a great
experience to see several Atashgahs and
meet many great people. I had meetings with
very important persons and we find many
interesting ways to support and work together
in the areas of education.

We, the Zoroastrians have seen many bad
days for centuries. Enemies of our religion
and our nations have attacked us on our
lands. I cannot go on and talk to you about
those days. You are all aware of that, and we
are living it again now in the Middle East.
Today, in the Middle East the hands of
darkness are destroying the lands,
harvesting many innocent souls, destroying
our heritage and historical sites, taking
women and children as prisoners and
selling them in the slavery market as sex
slaves. Kurdistan especially is becoming the
war zone along a border that extends for
over 1500 miles.

People are living in a very harsh situation.
Over two million refugees have come to live
among a population of five million. Just
imagine the burden on the living people.
Many people have immigrated through lands
and seas. Many of these people have died
under difficult situations, either drowned in
the seas or died in the cold weather in the
mountains, or just got ill from hunger and
passed away quietly in the remote lands.


My dear fellow Zoroastrians, the soul of the
world is crying for help. It is asking why all
these atrocities? Why we cannot live in
peace in an advanced civilization? Does not
this remind you of Yasna 29 verse 1?
You all know who can help in this case. The
Gathas, the way of Asho Zartosht, the good
people like us can give some help.

We Zoroastrians are the first who wrote the
Human Rights articles. Today, we ourselves
are the ones who do not have the rights to
practice our religion freely. All Zoroastrian
nations live on their own lands as secondclass
citizens. That is not right.
Fortunately, to us, the Zoroastrians of
Southern Kurdistan live under a region
which is semi-independent. Our Parliament
and the government have approved the
article 5 which gives freedom to practice our
religion and every citizen can freely choose
his religion. Now, the Zoroastrians of
Kurdistan are contributing to the country in
many ways, like taking care of the
environment, planting trees in the barren
mountains. volunteering to clean up city
streets, helping the needy. Having youth
organizations, finding jobs for young people,
having weekly seminars to educate and
make people aware of our religion, making
good relations with other religious groups
and organizations and supporting our brave
Peshmerga fighting the forces of darkness,
the ISIS, also known as Daesh.

I hope soon the other countries like Turkey,
Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan,
Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, and others do for
Zoroastrians like the Kurdistan Government
has done. The Zoroastrians are peace
loving, country loving, progressive, and will
contribute very good to the progress of their
nations.

In Kurdistan, we have started the Yasna
organization. This organization is the
frontline to gather the Zoroastrians together.
Slowly the ones who were practicing the
religion are coming out and announcing
their religion with no fear. The Zoroastrians
are growing in numbers, groups and lately,
tribes are coming out and announcing
openly to be Zoroastrians. Just last Friday,
a tribe close to the Peeramagron mountain
whose villages are close to the ruins of
Zoroastrian Atashgahs invited the Yasna
organization and announced openly their
Good Religion.

As a representative of the Zoroastrian in the
Government of Kurdistan, I have good
relations with various other religions like
Christians, Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims,
Kakaee, Yazidi, Mandaee, Jews, and other
organization. We have good relations with
foreign consulates like the United States of
America, France, and others. We have a
good presence in the media. We appear on
many talk shows and debates. Our voice is
reaching many. We have an Atashgah in the
city of Sulaymania. It was inaugurated in
2016. Many dignitaries like the Governor of
Sulaymania, Mr Haval Abubakr and Mr
Marewan Naqsgbandi were present and cut
the ribbon.

I admit we do not have adequate financial
capabilities to open branches in various cities
and town. But, the growth continues. We have
large Zoroastrian communities in many towns
and cities, but we do not have adequate
financial capability to open an Atashgah in
each of these cities. The economic situation is
very harsh now in Kurdistan due to this war by
ISIS against us.

My dear Zoroastrians, the time has come to
stick our necks out. The world is in a very
bad situation. The solution is in our book
Gathas to help build the good mentality and
eliminate the destructive ones. This
civilization is in need for Good Thoughts,
Good Word and Good Deeds.
To unite and act we need a few easy steps
we must all practice it:

1. Gathas: It is the key for our good
mentality. Try to learn it from your sources.
You are lucky you are close to very
intelligent persons here. I and my colleague
have to travel thousands of miles to come
and see them and learn from them.
2. Contacts: Keep contact with your friends
and family all the time and learn from each
other.
3. News: We broadcast our activities every
month. Please read them, circulate them
around and send them to your friends
everywhere. This way, we will be connected
spiritually. Before you know it, you will find
you are in love with every Zoroastrian in the
world.
4. Look for the leaders: Listen to them and
create nice youth groups and contacts. The
youth can make seminars and lectures
among themselves. Not just about religion.
They can communicate about science, jobs,
or just friendship.
5. Help: Your brothers and sisters in
Kurdistan are on the front lines making a
huge change. They are spearheading the
return of Zoroastrianism. Sometimes they
need help. Work with your leaders and
organization to organize a good help in an
effective way.


These are very simple things to do but are
very effective to unite us and work together.
I am leaving tomorrow, but my heart is not
willing to go. I think, I will leave and my
heart here to stay behind. I hope I see you
all visiting us in Kurdistan.
Better days are coming.”

Acche din aa rahe hain.

Cheers, Doc
 
I know this was probably a joke, but honestly;

You routinely curse India as becoming a saffron Pakistan, curse a vast chunk of Indians and Hindus as frothing at the mouth Sanghis, you miss no chance to tout your racial/cultural superiority and would rather mix with Middle Easterners who have Arab blood or Azerbaijanis who are hardcore pro-Pakistan Muslims than your "Vedic Indic cousins," you constantly have one eye on going back to Iran and recreating a long dead Empire, and you ridicule our kingdoms and their resistance against invaders even though we ultimately survived (not to mention you routinely invaded your own "cousins" throughout history).

And now you talk about help...? Bit cheeky no..?

Ok forget it.

Help should not have to be asked for.

It should come on its own.

Cheers, Doc
 
Mrs Awat Darya

Representative of the Kurdistan Zoroastrians in the Kurdistan Government, addresses the gathering at The California Zoroastrian Center
on April 9, 2017

“Ladies and gentlemen On behalf of the
Yasna organization, to which I and
the entire Zoroastrian community in
Kurdistan belong, I welcome you
all and thank you for your presence. I thank
all those who have come from far distances.
I also thank all Yasna members for their
steadfast work to show our Good Religion to
the oppressed people. I thank my beloved
husband Jamal for his continued support.
In the last few days your generous hospitality
has made us very happy and we feel we are
among our own families. It is truly a great
experience to see several Atashgahs and
meet many great people. I had meetings with
very important persons and we find many
interesting ways to support and work together
in the areas of education.

We, the Zoroastrians have seen many bad
days for centuries. Enemies of our religion
and our nations have attacked us on our
lands. I cannot go on and talk to you about
those days. You are all aware of that, and we
are living it again now in the Middle East.
Today, in the Middle East the hands of
darkness are destroying the lands,
harvesting many innocent souls, destroying
our heritage and historical sites, taking
women and children as prisoners and
selling them in the slavery market as sex
slaves. Kurdistan especially is becoming the
war zone along a border that extends for
over 1500 miles.

People are living in a very harsh situation.
Over two million refugees have come to live
among a population of five million. Just
imagine the burden on the living people.
Many people have immigrated through lands
and seas. Many of these people have died
under difficult situations, either drowned in
the seas or died in the cold weather in the
mountains, or just got ill from hunger and
passed away quietly in the remote lands.


My dear fellow Zoroastrians, the soul of the
world is crying for help. It is asking why all
these atrocities? Why we cannot live in
peace in an advanced civilization? Does not
this remind you of Yasna 29 verse 1?
You all know who can help in this case. The
Gathas, the way of Asho Zartosht, the good
people like us can give some help.

We Zoroastrians are the first who wrote the
Human Rights articles. Today, we ourselves
are the ones who do not have the rights to
practice our religion freely. All Zoroastrian
nations live on their own lands as secondclass
citizens. That is not right.
Fortunately, to us, the Zoroastrians of
Southern Kurdistan live under a region
which is semi-independent. Our Parliament
and the government have approved the
article 5 which gives freedom to practice our
religion and every citizen can freely choose
his religion. Now, the Zoroastrians of
Kurdistan are contributing to the country in
many ways, like taking care of the
environment, planting trees in the barren
mountains. volunteering to clean up city
streets, helping the needy. Having youth
organizations, finding jobs for young people,
having weekly seminars to educate and
make people aware of our religion, making
good relations with other religious groups
and organizations and supporting our brave
Peshmerga fighting the forces of darkness,
the ISIS, also known as Daesh.

I hope soon the other countries like Turkey,
Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan,
Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, and others do for
Zoroastrians like the Kurdistan Government
has done. The Zoroastrians are peace
loving, country loving, progressive, and will
contribute very good to the progress of their
nations.

In Kurdistan, we have started the Yasna
organization. This organization is the
frontline to gather the Zoroastrians together.
Slowly the ones who were practicing the
religion are coming out and announcing
their religion with no fear. The Zoroastrians
are growing in numbers, groups and lately,
tribes are coming out and announcing
openly to be Zoroastrians. Just last Friday,
a tribe close to the Peeramagron mountain
whose villages are close to the ruins of
Zoroastrian Atashgahs invited the Yasna
organization and announced openly their
Good Religion.

As a representative of the Zoroastrian in the
Government of Kurdistan, I have good
relations with various other religions like
Christians, Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims,
Kakaee, Yazidi, Mandaee, Jews, and other
organization. We have good relations with
foreign consulates like the United States of
America, France, and others. We have a
good presence in the media. We appear on
many talk shows and debates. Our voice is
reaching many. We have an Atashgah in the
city of Sulaymania. It was inaugurated in
2016. Many dignitaries like the Governor of
Sulaymania, Mr Haval Abubakr and Mr
Marewan Naqsgbandi were present and cut
the ribbon.

I admit we do not have adequate financial
capabilities to open branches in various cities
and town. But, the growth continues. We have
large Zoroastrian communities in many towns
and cities, but we do not have adequate
financial capability to open an Atashgah in
each of these cities. The economic situation is
very harsh now in Kurdistan due to this war by
ISIS against us.

My dear Zoroastrians, the time has come to
stick our necks out. The world is in a very
bad situation. The solution is in our book
Gathas to help build the good mentality and
eliminate the destructive ones. This
civilization is in need for Good Thoughts,
Good Word and Good Deeds.
To unite and act we need a few easy steps
we must all practice it:

1. Gathas: It is the key for our good
mentality. Try to learn it from your sources.
You are lucky you are close to very
intelligent persons here. I and my colleague
have to travel thousands of miles to come
and see them and learn from them.
2. Contacts: Keep contact with your friends
and family all the time and learn from each
other.
3. News: We broadcast our activities every
month. Please read them, circulate them
around and send them to your friends
everywhere. This way, we will be connected
spiritually. Before you know it, you will find
you are in love with every Zoroastrian in the
world.
4. Look for the leaders: Listen to them and
create nice youth groups and contacts. The
youth can make seminars and lectures
among themselves. Not just about religion.
They can communicate about science, jobs,
or just friendship.
5. Help: Your brothers and sisters in
Kurdistan are on the front lines making a
huge change. They are spearheading the
return of Zoroastrianism. Sometimes they
need help. Work with your leaders and
organization to organize a good help in an
effective way.


These are very simple things to do but are
very effective to unite us and work together.
I am leaving tomorrow, but my heart is not
willing to go. I think, I will leave and my
heart here to stay behind. I hope I see you
all visiting us in Kurdistan.
Better days are coming.”

Acche din aa rahe hain.

Cheers, Doc
It's a scam .Pure & simple . Convince well off Parsis that the Kurds are converting in droves , Milk it for all its worth and laugh all the way to the bank while you orgasm here with contradictory posts on how you'd never tolerate any dilution in bloodlines and then then take a u turn and draw a distinction between racial purity and the larger Zorastrian religion and it's recent "exponential growth ".

P.S - ever tried stand up comedy . Pls do. If possible , with GND. A punch and Judy show.
 
It's a scam .Pure & simple . Convince well off Parsis that the Kurds are converting in droves , Milk it for all its worth and laugh all the way to the bank while you orgasm here with contradictory posts on how you'd never tolerate any dilution in bloodlines and then then take a u turn and draw a distinction between racial purity and the larger Zorastrian religion and it's recent "exponential growth ".

P.S - ever tried stand up comedy . Pls do. If possible , with GND. A punch and Judy show.

ok.

Cheers,

Doc
 
Ok forget it.

Help should not have to be asked for.

It should come on its own.

Cheers, Doc

1. What sort of help would you expect? You want us to invade Iran for you or something?
2. More importantly, I don't get many opportunities to interact with Parsis in India, but if even a remotely sizeable portion of them think like you, and hold the same beliefs/pov's that I listed in my original comment; why on Earth would we help you? You thought you were better than us, you always wanted to go back, so go fight your own battle. How much did Persia help ancient "India." I only remember reading about invasions from you people (both before and after you became Muslims).
 
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It wasn't a joke.

The Americans did it for the Jews.

Cheers, Doc

The Jews weren't talking shit about Harry Truman or calling America anything along the lines of a Christian Pakistan (granted Pakistan didn't exist, but there's a greater point being made here). Weren't maligning a huge chunk of Americans/Christians as extremists either.
 
1. What sort of help would you expect? You want us to invade Iran for you or something?
2. More importantly, I don't get many opportunities to interact with Parsis in India, but if even a remotely sizeable portion of them think like you, and hold the same beliefs/pov's that I listed in my original comment; why on Earth would we help you? You thought you were better than us, you always wanted to go back, so go fight your own battle. How much did Persia help ancient "India." I only remember reading about invasions from you people (both before and after you became Muslims).

I think the parallels are there.

The Jews for America.

The Parsis for India.

I am not suggesting that India is America. You do not have to invade anyone, or install us there.

But I see your point. Sorry I asked.

Cheers, Doc
 
I think the parallels are there.

The Jews for America.

The Parsis for India.

I am not suggesting that India is America. You do not have to invade anyone, or install us there.

But I see your point. Sorry I asked.

Cheers, Doc

There are things you should be sorry for, asking for help isn't one of them. If there was something India could do without significantly harming its interests, I'd have no problem with India helping you people. But after some of your rhetoric (and extrapolating it to at least a chunk of your community - although I hope this assumption is wrong) against India and a significant amount of Hindus, I just find it kind of shameless to also turn around and ask for help.

Also, ironically enough, if there's anyone that has the power and strong will to help you (theoretically speaking) - it's probably not someone in Congress. So you might have to *gasp* take help from BJP.
 
There are things you should be sorry for, asking for help isn't one of them. If there was something India could do without significantly harming its interests, I'd have no problem with India helping you people. But after some of your rhetoric (and extrapolating it to at least a chunk of your community - although I hope this assumption is wrong) against India and a significant amount of Hindus, I just find it kind of shameless to also turn around and ask for help.

Why shameful?

I nor any Parsi is anti India or anti Indian.

We are very anti bigot, be they green or saffron.

I think that makes us nationalists and patriots no? Why would you think different?

Why is it wrong to want to go back to our homeland?

The Jews did that. I do not see anyone holding that against them. And in terms of contribution to the nation, they do not come close to us.

Help me understand please why India would not help Parsis return to their homeland.

Cheers, Doc
 
@vsdoc Mate you will have to wait till OIL runs out

The Middle east attracts the Big powers only because of oil
if US is helping Kurds ; it is only because of oil

Every country has an Angle or Interest that it is seeking to promote and protect

By the way you have not yet thought about Iran's water crisis and how that can help OR hinder your Aim

If Iran has to use its Oil and gas for desalination plants ; then it will run out of oil much sooner

AND above all Right Now the Only TWO Groups who have any
sympathy and attention are JEWS and TIBETANS

Others such as Kurds are really too Boring
 
or anti Indian.
Except you are very much against plenty of Indians - you refer to them as frothing at the mouth bigot Sanghis.
anti India
You may not be intentionally, but you support a political party that is so terribly against the national interest and divisive, that it almost becomes a debatable point.
We are very anti bigot, be they green or saffron.
False equivalence, and a tonne of bullshit, why would we help you when you wrongly, unjustly and repeatedly compare us to Islamists? You wanna see real bigots? Go to Iran. Bet you a hundred bucks you'll be missing these same "Saffron Pakistanis" in a week - tops.
they do not come close to us.
Contentious point, at least as far as financial muscle and influence is concerned, your point is incredibly wrong.
 
I really wish it to be true ; That our Generation too can Witness the Actions and Deeds of a Divine Being

Personally speaking ; for me it would be enough if God eliminated all these Evil and Corrupt
Congressi goons by giving them Cancer or Heart Disease
spread aerosolized rabies virus over their dwellings and watch the fun as they become mad dogs.
 
Nothing Cambridge Analytica couldn't change.

I think they are sexy.

ISIS stopped by an army of our women.

Imagine what happens when 50 million men join the fight.

Cheers, Doc

Again you are deluding yourself

ISIS was stopped by US and Russia especially AIR POWER and Missile Power

Without their help ISIS would have run over everything

Kurds are only taking advantage of the situation and when Turkey hits them
they will again disappear into their Holes

And there are so few parsis left ; where will you get 50 Million men
 
Except you are very much against plenty of Indians - you refer to them as frothing at the mouth bigot Sanghis.

I could call them bigot chaddis if that makes you feel better.

You may not be intentionally, but you support a political party that is so terribly against the national interest and divisive, that it almost becomes a debatable point.

That is your political opinion. Millions think differently. And have for 60 of the 70 years of our Independence.

You and your ilk are the minority. Yet you lecture me? Now you are moving from the amusing to the absurd.

False equivalence, and a tonne of bullshit, why would we help you when you wrongly, unjustly and repeatedly compare us to Islamists? You wanna see real bigots? Go to Iran. Bet you a hundred bucks you'll be missing these same "Saffron Pakistanis" in a week - tops.

I ask you what I think I asked Stephen once.

Who is "we" - please do not wear the Hindu mantle here. A chaddi is a chaddi. Who happens to be Hindu. Most Hindus are not. Which is why we still have a nation.

Contentious point, at least as far as financial muscle and influence is concerned, your point is incredibly wrong.

I am talking about the Indian Jewish community versus the Indian Parsi community. Nothing contentious about that. Do keep up ....

Cheers, Doc
 
Its mentioned here how to make it, actually biologicals are the easiest to make, You just need good equipment clothing like a quarantine , lab hazmat suit etc.
Effects of Aerosolized Rabies Virus Exposure on Bats and Mice | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
You could easily make botulin toxin in your home.

You know ; if such methods are used they will become MARTYRS and become immortal

It is better if People dont vote for them or GOD takes them away
 
That is your political opinion. Millions think differently. And have for 60 of the 70 years of our Independence.

You and your ilk are the minority. Yet you lecture me? Now you are moving from the amusing to the absurd.

That itself is a lie. For most of that time period, there was no real opposition, elections were routinely fought by basking in the glory of the same old freedom struggle, and there was no shortage of dirty tricks from Indira Gandhi either. The BJP itself has only existed since 1980, and in the '90s it was already coming to power. And of course nobody has to tell you what happened in 2014, your beloved Congress got swept away, they were demolished so badly they weren't even the principal opposition party.

BJP swept the 2014 elections and is currently in control of 22 states, which will soon be followed by Karnataka, and yet they're in the minority? Sure. You should be worried about Congress being nothing more than a Punjab party post-2018, don't worry about other things right now.

I ask you what I think I asked Stephen once.

Who is "we" - please do not wear the Hindu mantle here. A chaddi is a chaddi. Who happens to be Hindu. Most Hindus are not. Which is why we still have a nation.

Same old tired bullshit. Your face is gonna be worth looking at once Karnataka slips away in a couple months, followed by more failure in the general elections. No matter what happens, BJP will form the Government, and that day I'll be sure to tag you on this forum along with your various cheerleaders.


I am talking about the Indian Jewish community versus the Indian Parsi community. Nothing contentious about that. Do keep up ....
No you weren't, that's you shifting goalposts again. The implication was clearly about America and what it did for Jews - especially its own Jews.
 
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