To be fair, dogs should be holy in every religion; wonderful creatures. Yet another thing that's deeply wrong with Muslims.
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To be fair, dogs should be holy in every religion; wonderful creatures. Yet another thing that's deeply wrong with Muslims.
Truth be told - dogs did have an exalted position in Hinduism . Read wiki on Yama and his dogs or Datatteya - the so called incarnation of Brahma , Vishnu & Shiva who's worshipped as such in Maharshtra and surrounding states and who had dogs as his personal vehicle.
Somewhere down the line in history , they lost their status . Ancestors of bawas here , who derive from Vedic religion continued honouring and revering dogs.
Kurdistan reclaims its ancient Zoroastrian Faith
by Kersi Shroff
(Member, Zoroastrian Association of Metropolitan Washington & Board Member, World Zoroastrian Organization)
Over 200,000 persons in Kurdistan, Iraq,
have declared Zoroastrianism to be their
religion. So claimed Mrs Awat Hosamadin
Taieb, the Zoroastrian Representative of the
Kurdistan Regional Government, during an
inspiring account given in Washington DC of
the resurgence of the Zoroastrian faith in
Kurdistan. Mrs Awat was visiting the US
with a delegation of representatives of
minority faiths in Kurdistan. The delegation,
whose visit was sponsored by the US State
Department, met members of different
religious communities at the Washington
National Cathedral on March 15, 2017. The
theme of the meeting was: “Encouraging
Peaceful Coexistence and Cooperation
between Religious Groups (Iraq)”. A Kurdish
interpreter facilitated the discussions.
Kurdistan has a population of around 5.5
million, of which 1.5 million belong to
minority faiths. The culture in Kurdistan is
different from that of the Arabs and the
region serves as a refuge for followers of
minority religions. In 2015, the Kurdistan
Regional Government enacted a law to
formally protect religious minorities. It allows
citizens to freely declare their religious
affiliation, by “selecting a religion.” The
word “conversion” is deliberately avoided to
appease the Iraqi Government in Baghdad,
which continues to exercise control and
apply pressure on Kurdistan against various
developments, including the protective
rights granted to minorities. Mrs Awat stated
that the 2015 law has resulted in over
200,000 Kurds declaring themselves as
being Zoroastrians. When questioned about
this seemingly high number, Mrs Awat
stated that the estimate is in fact modest
and that there may be many more
adherents. She explained that the Kurdish
people never lost their ancient faith
completely even after forced conversions to
Islam. Many Kurds in far off villages kept alive the culture and tradition of
Zoroastrianism. At first, when Mrs Awat
started an organization called ‘Yasna’, a few
intellectuals secretly, and some openly,
came and registered their names. Others
quietly adopted Zoroastrianism, but asked
not to register their names. When a Mullah
threatened those who had publicly declared
themselves as Zoroastrians, Mrs Awat
rallied the media and instituted a civil law
suit against the Mullah. An apology is stated
to have been given by a high-ranking official
of the Kurdistan Regional Government. This
made tribes, groups, organizations, and
individuals come out to show their support.
As per a leading Kurdish Zoroastrian in the
US : “From that day people started from
villages and towns showing courage and
declaring their religion as Zoroastrians.”
The delegation from Kurdistan was led by
Mr Mariwan Kakashikh ‘Naqshbandi’, the
Director General of the Ministry of
Endowment and Religious Affairs. He
described the situation in Kurdistan, Iraq, as
being complex, and riddled with political,
military and religious cross-currents. He
noted the great influence of the Iranian
government over Baghdad. There are said
to be “Iranian plots”, and Iranian attitudes
are in the mindset of Iraqi clerics and
officials. Iraq is a”“graveyard for religious
minorities” and the Baghdad government is
a lost cause for Kurdistan, he stated. The
rich Mesopotamian culture recognizing two
major faiths, Islam and Christianity, and
other minority faiths, is being destroyed in
Iraq. Baghdad has cut the budget for
Kurdistan, so salaries and other funding are
not being provided. A referendum is planned
in Kurdistan seeking to break-off the region
from Iraq. The support of the world
community will be essential for achieving
the split.
An Iraqi law on identity cards allows the
entry of only two religions: Islam and
Christianity. A clause in the law, based on
Sharia, dis-inherits the siblings of persons
who convert to Islam. While inter-marriages
between Muslims and spouses from other
religious communities are registered, any
offspring is automatically considered to be a
Muslim. Under the former regime of
Saddam Hussain, children of mixed
marriages were free to declare the faith of
their choice upon achieving the age of
majority. Another clause allows nine-year
old girls to be married. The law also makes
provisions for the contracting of “temporary
marriages.” The President of Iraq refused to
sign the ID measures into law, but under
their legislative procedure, it came into force
after the passage of a set number of days.
A so-called “Jafarey law” (negating the
rights of religious minorities) is slated to be
imposed on Kurdistan by Baghdad. There
are two other contradictory Iraqi laws of
note:
1. No law can be enacted that is
against the principles of Sharia.
2. A later law requires that no laws
against democratic principles be
enacted.
Kurdistan was stated to emphasize the
requirements of the latter law.
The social bonds between minority
communities in Kurdistan are strong. They
campaign together on furthering various
minority rights and against discriminatory
practices. All the communities recently
observed the 75th anniversary of the
expulsion of Jews from Iraq. A multi-faith
demonstration against the ID law was held
in front of offices of the United Nations in
Erbil. Kurdistan has also resisted the
application of Iraqi anti-Bahai laws.
Per Mrs Awat, under the pretext of finding
remains from the Iraq-Iran war, Iranian
personnel are damaging ancient sites,
including the ruins of ancient Zoroastriantemples, and looting any artifacts they
uncover. In one instance, she had a wall/
fence built around a building with an atash
gah, but it appears that the structure stands
the risk of being officially declared as a
Christian site. She also stated that they
have approached UN agencies concerned
with the conservation of historical sites, but
have not received any support.
Mrs Awat noted that Kurdish Zoroastrians
were like “foreigners in their own lands” until
the 2015 law allowed them to re-engage
with their 3,700-year old faith. However,
there is constant pressure from Baghdad
and there are repeated accusations that
Zoroastrians are ‘fire worshippers”, commit
incest, and indulge in propaganda. The
takeover by the Islamic State (ISIS) of Iraqi
territory has added a great pressure on
Kurdistan. The region has sheltered many
internally displaced persons, including
Christians and Yazidis. After the departure
of ISIS, things could get much worse, she
said. The minority communities participate
in the Pesh Marga forces, the military arm
of Kurdistan. Thankfully, the Kurdistan
Regional Government is very supportive of
its minorities.
Mrs Awat declared that Kurdish
Zoroastrians must create their own
institutions and change the mindset of the
majority community. She is requesting
support for the establishment of multi-faith
committees for the protection of all religions
and to fight against ignorance, poverty,
violence against women, and female genital
mutilation. The US State Department does
not report on the “horrible things” that
Baghdad is doing against the Kurds, she
said.
Asked about the biggest problem facing
Kurdistan, the delegation was unanimous in
stating that an independent Kurdistan is the
only answer to their problems. To them the
creation of Iraq was an aberration, foisted
on the region by colonial powers. Mrs Awat spoke with passion about
prospects for the further revival of
Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan. Her people
were forcibly converted to other religions
and are now seeking their rightful
Zoroastrian heritage. She also spoke of her
vision of uniting worldwide Zoroastrians and
to welcome them in Kurdistan one day.
To quote the leading Kurdish Zoroastrian in
the US : “One brave woman broke the ice
and lit the flame of Zoroastrian[ism] again in
Kurdistan. Now, she is here seeking
cooperation to manage this amazing
rebirth.”
Source: Hamazor - Issue 2; 2017
Bulls are our holy cows.
They are called Varasyu. Special albino bulls, bred for the fire temples. Their urine consecrated for our rituals.
Cheers, Doc
Bawa bawa ki topi ghooma rahaa hain .What are the funds he solicited from all the dickraas & dickris?
Bawa bawa ki topi ghooma rahaa hain .What are the funds he solicited from all the dickraas & dickris?
You are incorrigible man.
These are Kurds, not Indian Parsis.
Hamzor is the global publication of the World Zoroastrian Organization (WZO).
Indian Parsis are not = World Zoroastrian Organization.
Cheers, Doc
Just like the Sikhs who in order to differentiate their rituals & assert their individuality came up with the jhatka as opposed to the halal of the Muslims . Everything in opposition of the Vedic faith , in fact heretical to the Vedic faith yet you were well received here for centuries . But then again this land has revered both RAM & Ravan. The concept of damnation doesn't exist in our value system . It's something which is a Monotheistic concept .
Let us not derail the thread to Indic peoples and theologies please.
By all means start one on Hinduism and Sikhi, I'll join in there as well.
Cheers, Doc
Pls stop. I'm in the middle of reviewing annual sales . 31 Mar is the financial year end. I've to grill my underlings and your posts aren't helping me.I'm having a hard time keeping a straight face.Have mercy on me and the rest out here .
Awat Darya (left), representative of Kurdish Zoroastrians to KRG, Dr. Faraydon Karim, a Zoroastrian Kurd in California, Mariwan Naqshbandi (right) a top official with Kurdistan’s Ministry of Endowment and Religious Affairs speak at California Zoroastrian Center. April 9, 2017. (Photo: Kurdistan24)
Kurdistan Flag with a Farvahar icon in the middle which is a symbol of Iranian nationalism. (Photo: Kurdistan24/Ava Homa)
Kamran Babakan a California-based Kurdish-Iranian attendee told Kurdistan24 the flag presented at the seminar signifies an odd combination and contrast of Kurdish and Iranian nationalism.
"For Zoroastrians, one's country comes before the religion. Kurdish and Iranian Zoroastrians are equally nationalists. Iranians say 'Kurds are one of us' but Kurds claim independence. Organizers are tiptoeing along the conflict of interest but Iranians continue to see Kurds as a threat to their territorial integrity, even Iraqi Kurds," he said.
American Zoroastrians children of mosty Iranian descent sing a prayer at the beginning of a ceremony honoring the representatives of Kurdistan Regional Government. (Photo: Kurdistan24/Ava Homa)
Cheers, Doc
I asked for credible reports , dickraa. Not propaganda pamphlets . Something from Reuters or AP , you know or university studies like Oxford or Sorbonne or Harward or SOAS.
Awat Darya (left), representative of Kurdish Zoroastrians to KRG, Dr. Faraydon Karim, a Zoroastrian Kurd in California, Mariwan Naqshbandi (right) a top official with Kurdistan’s Ministry of Endowment and Religious Affairs speak at California Zoroastrian Center. April 9, 2017. (Photo: Kurdistan24)
Kurdistan Flag with a Farvahar icon in the middle which is a symbol of Iranian nationalism. (Photo: Kurdistan24/Ava Homa)
Kamran Babakan a California-based Kurdish-Iranian attendee told Kurdistan24 the flag presented at the seminar signifies an odd combination and contrast of Kurdish and Iranian nationalism.
"For Zoroastrians, one's country comes before the religion. Kurdish and Iranian Zoroastrians are equally nationalists. Iranians say 'Kurds are one of us' but Kurds claim independence. Organizers are tiptoeing along the conflict of interest but Iranians continue to see Kurds as a threat to their territorial integrity, even Iraqi Kurds," he said.
American Zoroastrians children of mosty Iranian descent sing a prayer at the beginning of a ceremony honoring the representatives of Kurdistan Regional Government. (Photo: Kurdistan24/Ava Homa)
Cheers, Doc
Or like fire and bloodlines, you diluted and eventually peripheralized that bit as well.
Cheers, Doc
It's called evolution . You , on the other hand have atrophied.Perhaps that's evolution's way of telling you adapt or perish .
Did you notice that Stephen has gone suddenly silent, and Rathore is only cheerleading and finding things funny?
Kurdistan my man ..... remember the name. That's where the fightback started.
And these are our holy warriors!
Cheers, Doc
They've important things to do .Unlike you and me .I'm killing time in a sales review via video conferencing . I expect you're swatting flies in your clinic .Did you notice that Stephen has gone suddenly silent, and Rathore is only cheerleading and finding things funny?
Kurdistan my man ..... remember the name. That's where the fightback started.
And these are our holy warriors!
Cheers, Doc
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Did you notice that Stephen has gone suddenly silent, and Rathore is only cheerleading and finding things funny?
Kurdistan my man ..... remember the name. That's where the fightback started.
And these are our holy warriors!
Cheers, Doc
Why? If you intentionally, or unintentionally, say funny things should I not laugh? As for cheerleading, do you have a problem with me "liking" posts I agree with, or should I be jerking you off the way GND and other assorted cretins of your unholy gang of antinationals do?
You upstart you . It's do as I say not do as I do. How many times does one have to remind you jhopadpatti class ?
Sorry, I'm so unsophisticated I instinctively laughed at your joke and gave it a smiley, all without seeking the permission of the Great Shah Doc. I guess that makes me a jhopadpatti cheerleader? I suppose he'd like me better if I stuck to pure trolling that is ideologically aligned with his blinkered and nauseating political pov?
Did you notice that Stephen has gone suddenly silent, and Rathore is only cheerleading and finding things funny?
Kurdistan my man ..... remember the name. That's where the fightback started.
And these are our holy warriors!
Cheers, Doc
Aa joi lo dickraa. Eat drink and be merry .Your days of world conquest are over . Time to fade away. Gracefully .