We don't use moral blackmail as excuse, like you westerners try to do.
Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran
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Bombed children are even worse than kidnapped children you know like the bombed children in Iraq as well but your pea sized brain will continue whataboutism and will fail to see America invading Iraq was no less than Russia invading Ukraine.Military targets vs water?
Welcome to war 101.
That's the point though, it's not just civilian infrastructure, power is needed for weapons production and bunker ventilation for that matter. Water desalination and cluster bombs on cities on the otherhand is a little hard to frame as a military objective, but if one side does it, you can be sure the other will follow. Now you begin to see just how much the US has held back so far.
No kidnapped children yet. That's a little hard to frame as a military objective too. Not too many bombed hopsitals either. Or completely flattened towns and cities. just saying.
Iran already has targeted desalination, threat is a response to action.
Source is utter crap. It's the Guardian for a start.
Well, you weren't bothered about Ukraine suffering while refining Russian oil so...
That makes no sense. Imports relatively little energy, has own oil and gas in North Sea, but will be hardest hit???
The UK wasn't even consulted beforehand, but if there's a chance of getting rid of the murderous terrorists running Iran and stopping them getting nukes, I support it. Not sending any troops though, the other gulf states pushing the US to remove the regime can do that.
Ya'll literally supported Pinochet who made former Nazis use dogs to r*pe some of his dissidents. Like your morality is so small its not even possible to stomp it with a shoe. But because Iraqis Chileans Vietnamese Guatemalans Cambodians etc etc don't look like you ig their deaths by invasion and bombing are justifiable lol. I bet if we didn't have nukes your tribe would bomb us too one day.Military targets vs water?
Welcome to war 101.
That's the point though, it's not just civilian infrastructure, power is needed for weapons production and bunker ventilation for that matter. Water desalination and cluster bombs on cities on the otherhand is a little hard to frame as a military objective, but if one side does it, you can be sure the other will follow. Now you begin to see just how much the US has held back so far.
No kidnapped children yet. That's a little hard to frame as a military objective too. Not too many bombed hopsitals either. Or completely flattened towns and cities. just saying.
Iran already has targeted desalination, threat is a response to action.
Source is utter crap. It's the Guardian for a start.
Well, you weren't bothered about Ukraine suffering while refining Russian oil so...
That makes no sense. Imports relatively little energy, has own oil and gas in North Sea, but will be hardest hit???
The UK wasn't even consulted beforehand, but if there's a chance of getting rid of the murderous terrorists running Iran and stopping them getting nukes, I support it. Not sending any troops though, the other gulf states pushing the US to remove the regime can do that.
The other guy is not debating in the good faith to begin with.
He's not here to share his just point of view, he's here for U.S. centric apologetic propaganda.
Unilaterally trying to show U.S. side as the morally superior, dismissing argument wih actual sources of high level u.s politicians,officials admissions of creating isis etc as *eastern propaganda* without any credible counter of it own.
Justifying U.S evil deeds/war crimes as * happens in war*, but will still use moral standards to demonify the Iranian mullahs for their crimes/evil dead, not for the sake actual morals, but as a weponised justification for attack on Iran.
Supports nuking Iran, supports attack on Iranian civil infra, water desalination plants etc, but will use morals as a weapon to show Iran as a more evil side and U.S as good side.
In the same breadth will consider russia evil for all their deeds, but will support same deeds of u.s against Iran.
His shifting between might is right attitude when it comes to u.s actions, and moral judgement when it comes actions of all other players is open for all forum members to see.
He's a peice of shit & a traitor for his own country's immediate interests too.
He may be all of the above but i don't think losing your temper is going to help anyone or stop him from doing anything either. Its just going to ruin the atmosphere of the forum.
It helps me and others , by calling people out like him, who try to deliberately manipulate forum environment.
And letting him continue with that moral what about ism & moral blackmail and selective demonification for his agenda actually ruins the atmosphere of the forum, not me calling him out.
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Do you know how many times India features on American television? About once every 5 years -- either when there is a natural catastrophe, or when an airplane with an American goes down. Sorry if this is going to sound harsh, but no vanilla westerner in their right mind is looking to debate Indians on an online forum. You just don't picture into our everyday life - you're not even Mexicans to us. I myself am here to combat my depression as my country descends into Civil War 2.0 and my fat *censored* is too lazy to join a No Kings rally.
Some are here to build a catalog of Russian weapons. Others to hawk their own baguettes. And some indeed to push propaganda.
Something to ponder if you haven't come across the quote below by J.A. Bezmenov:
It's up to you if you want them to live rent free in your head.
Do you know how many times India features on American television? About once every 5 years -- either when there is a natural catastrophe, or when an airplane with an American goes down. Sorry if this is going to sound harsh, but no vanilla westerner in their right mind is looking to debate Indians on an online forum. You just don't picture into our everyday life - you're not even Mexicans to us. I myself am here to combat my depression as my country descends into Civil War 2.0 and my fat *censored* is too lazy to join a No Kings rally.
Some are here to build a catalog of Russian weapons. Others to hawk their own baguettes. And some indeed to push propaganda.
Something to ponder if you haven't come across the quote below by J.A. Bezmenov:
It's up to you if you want them to live rent free in your head.
Don't care & don't wanna know about whatever firangis do or think about, you're free to leave.
What i care about is not wanting a peice of shit spreading delibrate agenda and interacting in bad faith & manipulating manner in the forum that I visit for defence related interests.
Then I suggest you take a cue from some of the others on this thread that are already fighting fire with fire
Long time ago. Only recently India supported Russian invasion of Ukraine because it made Ukrainian the only official national language, even though it gave up its nuclear weapons. Now India condemns US attack on Iran even though it has literally murdered 30,000+ civilians, beaten women to death for not wearing a head-scarf and has Uranium enriched to 84%, as well as sponsoring Hezbollah and cluster bombing cities.
So I think it's pretty clear cut.
You mean like when Russia blew up a natal hospital and a supermarket?
Sure because the Kyiv regime aslo nerve gassed tens of thousands of civilians and invaded a smaller neighbour only 10 years prior... oh no wait, it didn't.
Didn't happen, Iranian propaganda denied by both US and Israel.
2026 Qeshm Island desalination plant attack - Wikipedia
Electricity is used by factories for weapons production.
Some sort of moral justification huh?
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what? India has lost significantly more than anything gained from the ukraine war. It has made mil imports from the sanctioned russia harder, it drastically started tanking our currency cause europe switched away from russian oil which means theyre now also driving up the price of middle-eastern oil and everyone and their mother started scrutinizing Indian imports from russia.
When did India support the russian invasion?
PM Modi raises Ukraine war during meeting with Putin, says loss of lives is heart-breaking
PM Modi-Putin meeting: India's embrace of Russia amid Ukraine conflict raises concerns in Washington and Kyiv, as Modi stresses dialogue over conflict
India's Prime Minister Modi steps into Ukraine-Russia peace vacuum
Ukraine scored victories on and off the battlefield last week, with Kyiv securing a long sought after visit by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
Didnt see any other leader who had access to putin do this. Sure you may call this PR or whatever but i think this makes the stance clear.
Ofc India also got soem benefits as this has now allowed us to diversify oil supply beyond the middle east but thats not enough to offset other losses.
India stands for much the same as China as regards Ukraine, pretending to be neutral, while not actually being neutral.what? India has lost significantly more than anything gained from the ukraine war. It has made mil imports from the sanctioned russia harder, it drastically started tanking our currency cause europe switched away from russian oil which means theyre now also driving up the price of middle-eastern oil and everyone and their mother started scrutinizing Indian imports from russia.
When did India support the russian invasion?
PM Modi raises Ukraine war during meeting with Putin, says loss of lives is heart-breaking
PM Modi-Putin meeting: India's embrace of Russia amid Ukraine conflict raises concerns in Washington and Kyiv, as Modi stresses dialogue over conflictwww.thehindu.com
As I've said before, neutrality isn't what's coming out of Indian media and 'online personalities'. Hell, some of the reporting isn't even accurate. In one article on YouTube Hindustan Times showed a Russian aircraft coming down after friendly fire and claimed a Russian shootdown of a Ukrainian jet.India's Prime Minister Modi steps into Ukraine-Russia peace vacuum
Ukraine scored victories on and off the battlefield last week, with Kyiv securing a long sought after visit by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.abcnews.com
Didnt see any other leader who had access to putin do this. Sure you may call this PR or whatever but i think this makes the stance clear.
Ofc India also got soem benefits as this has now allowed us to diversify oil supply beyond the middle east but thats not enough to offset other losses.
Arguing with paddy is waste of time and your breath my friend. Our buddy paddy there has a very thick skull inside which there is a very hypocritical amerishill brain. No amount of words will ever make him change his antics. As anonymous brother have enlighten us before paddy belongs to that crowd of creatures you found on European forums who screech when they see any Asian country trading with Russia but at same breath would try to justify European trade with Russia as strategic. They won't ever accept the fact that not obeying the Americans like his good boi self and looking for our own interests is not siding with Russia. To them being neutral is apparently following American whip.what? India has lost significantly more than anything gained from the ukraine war. It has made mil imports from the sanctioned russia harder, it drastically started tanking our currency cause europe switched away from russian oil which means theyre now also driving up the price of middle-eastern oil and everyone and their mother started scrutinizing Indian imports from russia.
When did India support the russian invasion?
PM Modi raises Ukraine war during meeting with Putin, says loss of lives is heart-breaking
PM Modi-Putin meeting: India's embrace of Russia amid Ukraine conflict raises concerns in Washington and Kyiv, as Modi stresses dialogue over conflict
India's Prime Minister Modi steps into Ukraine-Russia peace vacuum
Ukraine scored victories on and off the battlefield last week, with Kyiv securing a long sought after visit by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
Didnt see any other leader who had access to putin do this. Sure you may call this PR or whatever but i think this makes the stance clear.
Ofc India also got soem benefits as this has now allowed us to diversify oil supply beyond the middle east but thats not enough to offset other losses.