Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran


Trump may have told PM Modi to store oil as they are going for Iran, get it from where ever they want be it Russia. Last year Trump and Putin met, they may have negotiated on Ukraine and also Iran.


May be:

Deal Between Trump and Putin in Alaska: You keep Ukraine including Crimea what ever captured or take whole Ukraine slowly, US will keep some new areas of Gulf and Whole of the Latin America and Cuba will be under US influence, no Russian interference.
 
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The ME caters to a third of China's consumption of natural gas .

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China’s annual natural gas consumption reached approximately 425 billion cubic meters (Bcm) in 2024, maintaining its position as a top global consumer. Imports are significant, totaling over 150 Bcm annually, with import dependency hovering around 41–42%. Key suppliers include Turkmenistan, Australia, Russia, and Qatar, with rising pipeline gas imports .
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As of late 2025, China has established itself as a leader in underground gas storage (UGS) expansion, with its working gas volume reaching approximately 19.8 to 26.7 billion cubic meters (bcm), ranking sixth globally. The country is rapidly increasing this capacity, aiming for 55–60 bcm by the end of 2025 to secure energy supply
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I did fire a warning shot before about AI being the ultimate story teller signalling the death of the professional story teller.

Alas ! Just like Iran shot off its mouth too much for its own good for the past 5 decades & is paying the price for it & a rather heavy one at that ...... ( Interested people may fill in the blanks )

Not in the mood to debunk the rest of the story..................



..........as of now .

Let's just say I'm in a generous mood.
 
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Israel struck several nuclear sites in Iran on Friday, hitting uranium and heavy water facilities with no reported radiation leak, as both sides trade fresh threats amid reports of Washington-Tehran talks.
Nuclear facilities in Iran have been targeted by air strikes, just hours after Israel threatened to “escalate and expand” its campaign, state-run media and Tehran regime officials said on Friday.
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randomradio said:
Asuras became malevolent beings after the Rig Veda, which implies the pre-Gathic period was essentially between Rig and Atharva.

If Zoroaster lived between 2000-1500 BC, it implies the Vedas are significantly older than currently dated if we are to stick him between Rig and Atharva, ie, the pre-Gathic and Gathas sit between Rig and Atharva.

But while Rig considered Asuras and Devas as one and the same, Zoroastrians created the split long before Zoroaster came into the show. Which means Asuras had already become dark Titans before Zoroaster turned Asura Medha into Ahura Mazda. That's pre-Gathic.

Four theories:
1. Vedic system reacted.
Rig - Pre-Gathic (Devas became bad) - Atharva (Asuras became bad) - Gathas (Ahura Mazda).
Split.

2. Vedic system reacted.
Rig - Pre-Gathic (Devas became bad) - Gathas (Ahura Mazda) - Atharva (Asuras became bad).
Split.

3. Zoroastrians reacted.
Rig - Atharva (Asuras became bad) - Pre-Gathic (Devas became bad) - Gathas (Ahura Mazda).
Split.

4. Zoroastrians reacted.
Rig - Atharva (Asuras became bad) - Pre-Gathic (Devas became bad) - Gathas (Ahura Mazda).
Misunderstanding. Brahmins made a translation error, gave the "a" in asura a negative connotation. So suras and devas were fine, but asuras cannot be worshipped. Zoroastrians assumed it was an attack on them and they reacted during the pre-Gathic era.

1, 2, and 3 imply a real split whereas 4 implies a misunderstanding. Zoroaster supported the new meaning.

Of the 3 cases, only 1 (case 2) sees Atharva being younger than the Gathas. And it could be any of these 4 cases.

And 600 BC is when the Gathas were finally written down.

BMAC link is disputed. At best syncretization of cultures. For example, fire was important in the colder climate of Central Asia and the steppes.
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Interestingly we say Asuras and Devas are of the same ethnic stock as they share their paternal lineage through Sage Kashyapa and their mothers were sisters as well (Diti Aditi). Both descendants directly of the Creator Himself but nonetheless one became evil.
 
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RationalGuy said:
Interestingly we say Asuras and Devas are of the same ethnic stock as they share their paternal lineage through Sage Kashyapa and their mothers were sisters as well (Diti Aditi). Both descendants directly of the Creator Himself but nonetheless one became evil.
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Aditi also represents "adwait"(non-dualism) while Diti represents "dwait"(dualism). This Devasur struggle also has deep inner meaning and symbolism where Devtas(sons of Aditi) represent our higher state of mind/consciousness while Asuras represent more base and carnal desires. Vedas have deep inrooted meaning which is far more than just literal.
 
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Man, even with AI around, some people need to be spoonfed.

Apparently thinking is still a priviege, so I still have to do the thinking around here.

China's 2025 consumption was 400 bcm and Hormuz control is 27 bcm, which implies Hormuz controls 6% of China's gas consumption.

Now remember, there are two types of natural gas when it comes to transport, LNG supplied via ships and pipeline gas supplied by, hold on... pipes.

China produces 262 bcm domestically and imports 180 bcm. Consumes 400 bcm and stores/exports 40 bcm.
Pipeline gas: 81 bcm. China gets 39 bcm from Russia and 36 more from Turkmenistan. About 5 more from Myanmar.
LNG: China gets 90-95 bcm via ships. Out of that 95 bcm, 27 bcm comes through Hormuz.

27 bcm of 95 bcm is roughly a third of China's "LNG" supply, not total gas supply.

So, no, ME doesn't cater to a third of China's total gas consumption, but ony 6%.

As for storage, there are two types, UGS and cryogenic tanks. The UGS currently stores 20 bcm and the cryogenic tanks at LNG terminals store another 35-40 bcm. So a total of 55-60 bcm, which is roughly 2 years of what Hormuz supplies.

Now one would identify this problem as lack of basic math, but this it not a math problem, it's a thinking problem. AI gives data, but after that, one still needs to use their brain. This is what fighter jocks call sensor fusion. AI is not at a level that it can do the thinking for you, at least as of now.

Word of advice: AI is a tool not a replacement for a human brain. If one does not know how to use AI properly, it is highly suggested to stop using it, it's harmful. Even after a decade of spoonfeeding, and even after years of AI, if spoonfeeding is still required, then it's a fundamental problem with core development as a child and is unlikely to be fixed. So leave the thinking to those who can.

Ah, people shouldn't bother trying to debunk stories without first being able to differentiate between a** and elbow.

Thinking is a privilege.
 
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RationalGuy said:
Interestingly we say Asuras and Devas are of the same ethnic stock as they share their paternal lineage through Sage Kashyapa and their mothers were sisters as well (Diti Aditi). Both descendants directly of the Creator Himself but nonetheless one became evil.
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They were susceptible to their carnal desires but i wouldn't call them strictly evil. Cuz Asuras like Prahalada and Mahabali also existed.
 
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RationalGuy said:
Interestingly we say Asuras and Devas are of the same ethnic stock as they share their paternal lineage through Sage Kashyapa and their mothers were sisters as well (Diti Aditi). Both descendants directly of the Creator Himself but nonetheless one became evil.
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The Kashyap narrative is from the Puranas. Vedas focus on Dyaus Pitr or Sky Father, which is the father of all titans and gods. The Greeks copy that story to get Uranus.

And I guess because asuras had become bad by then, the Greeks added an additional layer. So Dyaus and Prithvi gave birth to Indra and siblings, but Uranus and Gaia gave birth to the titans and one of the titans called Chronus gave birth to Zeus and siblings.

Due to circumstances, Indra defeats Dyaus and becomes the king of gods. Chronus does the same to his father, and then Zeus repeats the action with Chronus and becomes the Sky Father.

The Romans translated Sky Father to Lupitter (Dyaus Pitr), which eventually became Jupiter, Zeus' equivalent. Similar to the Greeks, Jupiter's grandfather is Caelus or Sky Father and mother is Terra, who are in turn linked to Greek gods, all the way to Chaos.

So this is from the Vedas, whereas the Puranas came later than the Greeks, derived from the Itihasas (Ramayana and Mahabharata). And in the Puranas, Dyaus Pitr becomes Purusha (Conciousness) and Prithvi becomes Pragati (Nature), which is essentially the basis for the observer effect in modern science and a foundation for quantum mechanics, and Kashyap becames the father of all the gods, demons etc.
 
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Varuna - Mitra ( the former was to later become Ahura Mazda ) who was the premier diety in the Vedic pantheon
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Interestingly, the Vedic shift in primacy from Varuna to Indra was mirrored in Greece too. Poseidon was the foremost God in Mycenaean Greece. He lost his status to Zeus sometime during the Greek Dark Ages, and by the Classical Greek era, Zeus was the undisputed top dog, not unlike Indra.

Why is this interesting? Well, because their association with sea became more pronounced after they lost primacy in the pantheon. Early on they were associated more with other domains (like the sky for Varuna and Earth/Underworld for Poseidon).

I have no idea whether it was just a coincidence or if their loss of status was linked.
 
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