Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

Speedster1 said:
Iran also has an active space program with multiple small satellites currently in orbit, (including a couple with military applications )
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Who knows how effective they are ? We'd probably know their efficacy once the war is over . Do you seriously think the US & Israel lack the wherewithal to jam or take down those satellites if they were truly as effective as you think they are ?
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and a SLV design that could concievably be repurposed into an ICBM for high profile but symbolic attacks.
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Once again do you think Iran can repurpose those SLVs in the midst of a war with zero air superiority over its own skies with TELs & caves being taken out with the rapidity at which they are ?
Speedster1 said:
The sats give them an independent ISR and targeting capability in addition to Chinese data feeds.
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RN most of them are targeting civilian areas in the Gulf Sheikhdoms & Israel. What great targeting cues do you require to achieve that ? Most of the US bases in the region are empty . Whatever assets they contained worth targeting have all been dispersed.

US has been war gaming this since Trump was sworn in last Jan . That's the reason he went soft on China & Russia - the only two countries which could prop up Iran & Venezuela.

While doing so the US has taken out / is taking out all those countries which can potentially ally with China & Russia later.

While Trump had been mouthing his own version of this isn't an era of war , unlike Leaderji , he didn't mean it .

And like the rest of the world we're only discovering these facts now.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
Who knows how effective they are ? We'd probably know their efficacy once the war is over . Do you seriously think the US & Israel lack the wherewithal to jam or take down those satellites if they were truly as effective as you think they are ?
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The fact that they even have a space prog makes them a different kettle of fish. Iranian media reports say their latest satellite has a 3-5m resolution which is mil grade.

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Once again do you think Iran can repurpose those SLVs in the midst of a war with zero air superiority over its own skies with TELs & caves being taken out with the rapidity at which they are ?
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Iran reportedly managed to put a sat into space using 1 such SLV some years back. You'd recall what Western analysts said about our own PSLV in the 1980s - 'all that's different is the coat of paint' or something to that effect.

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RN most of them are targeting civilian areas in the Gulf Sheikhdoms & Israel. What great targeting cues do you require to achieve that ? Most of the US bases in the region are empty . Whatever assets they contained worth targeting have all been dispersed
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They have hit mil targets like Al Udied, Al Dhafra and supply ships at sea. That calls for precise targeting.

The point is Iran isn't a pushover like Afg or Iraq. It has a credible industrial and tech base with competent scientists, many of whom have been picked off by Israel.
 
Speedster1 said:
The fact that they even have a space prog makes them a different kettle of fish. Iranian media reports say their latest satellite has a 3-5m resolution which is mil grade.
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Iran also claimed they had launched a 5th Gen FA program. In the past they claimed they had the technology to develop a 4th Gen FA. Where are they ? Up until a few years ago their BMs were misfiring which PKS then diagnosed as lack of proper guidance systems & FCR.

Their technology is rudimentary to say the least which in itself isn't bad as the building blocks are in place but needs to be refined . Instead they got entangled in endeavours involving punching way above their weight class & here we are.
Speedster1 said:
Iran reportedly managed to put a sat into space using 1 such SLV some years back. You'd recall what Western analysts said about our own PSLV in the 1980s - 'all that's different is the coat of paint' or something to that effect.
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Answered this above.
Speedster1 said:
They have hit mil targets like Al Udied, Al Dhafra and supply ships at sea. That calls for precise targeting.
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That doesn't call for precise targeting of the kind you're supposing. These bases are spread across quite a few sq kms .
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The point is Iran isn't a pushover like Afg or Iraq. It has a credible industrial and tech base with competent scientists, many of whom have been picked off by Israel.
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True but not of the order where it'd make a difference to the outcome of the war. Iran is not a peer of Israel leave aside the US which is the reason the former two picked on it .
 
jmaxwell_ said:
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The Chinese "pay" $35/barrel for 80% of Iran's oil. And I say "pay" because the Chinese weren't actually paying for a large share of it -- it was barter towards interest payments for BRI.

As I mentioned in a previous post -- Panama, Guyana, Venezuela and Iran was a hard lesson to the Chinese about the petrodollar. And that too at a time when their economy is on completely shaky ground.

So now in addition to paying Houthis protection money not to hurt their boats, no more cheap/free Iranian shadow oil for the Chinese -- they will have to pay market price. And whatever hurts the Chinese is sweet music to its neighbors!
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Chinese oil consumption has peaked, even their overall carbon emissions have peaked. The drop in consumption will become visible soon.
 
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Subgradewalker said:
Yup. But and Akash will help them a lot due to the cost and less restrictive than US systems. They can even get a better deal since India isn't in a position to dictate and charge exorbitantly.

Whole world has picked a side. Who is with Iran anyway? Even leftists are against it only when they don't have responsibility of being in power and managing FP. Enabling them to vomit as they like.

IF GCC states aren't with Iran.. it tells ya that they were indeed tired of Iran's mess and Nuclear threat.
Even Pakistan is hanging by a thread. Can't support US but still has to go its bidding. Americans killed their people on their soil, in broad daylight!!

That's just goes to show the extent to which Pak has paid the price for ceasefire help from US.

But yeah.. India surrendered acc to some nalayak.
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The globalists support Iran, particularly parties reliant on the Muslim votebank.
 
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RationalGuy said:
Or better yet actually make nukes if your conventional military is shit but Iranians were too busy running their mouths screaming "10% 20% 30%..." than doing the work. India and China were 1000 times poorer than modern Iran but both went full on and made nukes and their delivery systems even under threat from external powers.
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They did not have suppliers during the Cold War and were sanctioned by the P5 when they began imports.

Just having nukes isn't enough, as Pak found out last year.

India and China built up conventional capabilities massively before going for nukes.
 
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Indian state refiners and government officials met over the weekend to hammer out contingency plans for a crisis in Iran that has all but stopped flows through the Strait of Hormuz.
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Narendra Modi India GIF
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
Iran also claimed they had launched a 5th Gen FA program. In the past they claimed they had the technology to develop a 4th Gen FA. Where are they ? Up until a few years ago their BMs were misfiring which PKS then diagnosed as lack of proper guidance systems & FCR.
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Their stealth jet may have been a dud. But the fact that they've kept ancient 70s-era F-4s, F-14s airworthy says a lot about their ingenuity and resourcefulness.

They've even developed and test flown their own turboprop light transport some months ago. A feat that would put HAL/NAL to shame.

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Up until a few years ago their BMs were misfiring which PKS then diagnosed as lack of proper guidance systems & FCR.
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That was a thing of the past. The latest gen MRBMs like Fateh 110/360 et all are deadly accurate and reportedly fired from TELs parked below underground silos/tunnels.

In the run up to the Ukraine War, the Russians reportedly bought dozens of Iranian MRBMs besides Shahed series drones to shore up their firepower. In my book, that proves their credibility.

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That doesn't call for precise targeting of the kind you're supposing. These bases are spread across quite a few sq kms .
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Nope. They've hit naval and radar installations across the GCC region. These were point targets requiring accurate guidance. The Iranians reportedly use optical guidance on their lower end BMs, which would make them immune to Ew.
 
An American F-15 fighter jet participating in the bombing of Iran crashed in Kuwait. The pilot ejected and survived, as shown at the end of the video. The cause of the crash is unknown; it is believed the F-15E was mistakenly shot down by friendly fire from air defenses, or a technical malfunction is also possible. Iranian media reported the downing of the F-15 over Kuwait. Video footage of the American F-15 crash and the pilot's rescue was captured by local residents from various angles.

 
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