Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

India,China,Pakistan etc are exempted then who's really paying?
Japanese, South Koreans?
So US has imposed blockade on its own allies then Lol.

On a serious note, random shooting at each other is not off the table and actually may start soon.
This is what confused me at first but it actually turns out that must Gulf refineries are on the Hormuz side, so oil going to everywhere goes out that side. There are some cross-country pipelines to the Red Sea but not with nearly enugh capacity (that was arguably short-sighted strategic planning on their behalf).
 

Iran has asked for this, I mean asking for control over international waters isn't just a red line, it's a thousand red lines, it's a please-invade-my-coastal-regions-line. If they don't back down they'll end up without a coast.
control over the hormuz is not happening for iran, they need to back down. Ofc they could make exemptions for countries relatively close like China, pakistan(although with the peace talks and tensions caused by it idk) and India but that would create instability and drive up oil which would be counterproductive for said countries.
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glazing trump is......... well......... yea. But blockading Iran is a good counter especially if they give security for non iranian ships
 
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so theyre stopping all iranian trade while allowing all other middle east stuff. makes sense

Iran has asked for this, I mean asking for control over international waters isn't just a red line, it's a thousand red lines, it's a please-invade-my-coastal-regions-line. If they don't back down they'll end up without a coast.

Of course, and Iran will quietly take it like a man. Yes, they won't attempt to destroy GCC oil production and refineries at all.

They could even attack desalination plants this time. And you can bet they will take out the Azeri pipeline to Israel that supplies 40% of Israel's oil.

Pretty much all of the GCC's food supply comes via Hormuz too.

Iran's entire plan is to just take other countries hostage.

Right now the only alternative to some GCC oil is Saudi's pipeline to the Red Sea, but even that can be attacked.
 
US Central Command released footage of strikes on Iranian military equipment from March and April. The videos were filmed before the US-Iran ceasefire was announced. The videos show US strikes on an Iranian 2K12 Kub air defense system, presumably a Chengdu J-7 fighter jet, Shahed and Arash drone launchers, ballistic missile launchers, boats, and other Iranian military equipment.

 
Of course, and Iran will quietly take it like a man. Yes, they won't attempt to destroy GCC oil production and refineries at all.

They could even attack desalination plants this time. And you can bet they will take out the Azeri pipeline to Israel that supplies 40% of Israel's oil.

Pretty much all of the GCC's food supply comes via Hormuz too.

Iran's entire plan is to just take other countries hostage.

Right now the only alternative to some GCC oil is Saudi's pipeline to the Red Sea, but even that can be attacked.
I'm getting a feeling that this will be over soon, both of the parties don't want to fight war, they will go back to negotiations table and try to find the middle ground, USA can't achieve Thier goals without boots in the ground, and the Islamic regime wants to survive, suprisingly the UAE is up for fight tho, the rest of gulfs are coward's/ cucks what you find it appropriate to say, NATO countries don't want to participate in another mindless war in middle East, they are clearly out, isarel Will be forced by USA to make a deal with lebanon, and lebanon to take a harder stance against Hezbollah, iran will give up the uranium enrichment, for Pakistan it's crucial too have a confident ceasefire deal, if they don't they are ****ed, if the fight starts they will have to participate, they ain't getting any oil or gas, and the population in gilgit & balitstian will see this as betrayal, Good for us tho if that happens,
For us oil is not a problem we a various options, it's the LNG we have to take care of it, we have to secure Long term deal with other players apart from russia also, like Canada & others but don't be dependent, that will be problem if we did,

If deal happens clear loser isarel, UAE,
Winner pakistan as they don't have to fight the Iranians,

If the fight starts isarel, UAE are clear winners they have already showed that they are better at intercepting missile than other countries in the region,
Loser pakistan, China, pakistan Will see ethnic tension and China's energy supplies are getting strangled,

India - LNG crisis intensifies,

Trump has a heart of chicken, he is not a brave leader who will stand by it's decission or secure American interest, he will chicken out as soon there's some trouble and exactly that he is planning TACO, the blockade is for putting pressure on Iranians for negotiations and to rest of the world also, where everyone would be trying to open the strait and by doing so giving the US a face saving form failing to achieve its gols in iran,

How do you guys want these to be pan out?
 
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I'm getting a feeling that this will be over soon, both of the parties don't want to fight war, they will go back to negotiations table and try to find the middle ground, USA can't achieve Thier goals without boots in the ground, and the Islamic regime wants to survive, suprisingly the UAE is up for fight tho, the rest of gulfs are coward's/ cucks what you find it appropriate to say, NATO countries don't want to participate in another mindless war in middle East, they are clearly out, isarel Will be forced by USA to make a deal with lebanon, and lebanon to take a harder stance against Hezbollah, iran will give up the uranium enrichment, for Pakistan it's crucial too have a confident ceasefire deal, if they don't they are ****ed, if the fight starts they will have to participate, they ain't getting any oil or gas, and the population in gilgit & balitstian will see this as betrayal, Good for us tho if that happens,
For us oil is not a problem we a various options, it's the LNG we have to take care of it, we have to secure Long term deal with other players apart from russia also, like Canada & others but don't be dependent, that will be problem if we did,

If deal happens clear loser isarel, UAE,
Winner pakistan as they don't have to fight the Iranians,

If the fight starts isarel, UAE are clear winners they have already showed that they are better at intercepting missile than other countries in the region,
Loser pakistan, China, pakistan Will see ethnic tension and China's energy supplies are getting strangled,

India - LNG crisis intensifies,

Trump has a heart of chicken, he is not a brave leader who will stand by it's decission or secure American interest, he will chicken out as soon there's some trouble and exactly that he is planning TACO, the blockade is for putting pressure on Iranians for negotiations and to rest of the world also, where everyone would be trying to open the strait and by doing so giving the US a face saving form failing to achieve its gols in iran,

How do you guys want these to be pan out?

Without boots on the ground, even though it's Pyrrhic, Iran's won this. They still remain a proxy, conventional, and nuclear threat to Israel, so nothing's gonna change there. Even if attacks begin again, neither US nor Israel can change this outcome.

The US are being bad faith negotiators, so whatever demands they make will not be met anyway. And Trump has an election to win, continued tensions will derail that due to inflation. Iran has all the time in the world, the US doesn't.

Iran's apparently willing to give up enrichment for 5 years, pretty much the same as JCPOA's deadline of 2030, so that's a huge self-goal for Trump. He can argue for 10 years and sell that as a win. But it is likely to come at the cost of lifting sanctions.

Trump's gonna aim for Cuba immediately to score a win while trying to sell a compromise with Iran as a massive win to the American citizens. The Americans will vote with their wallets.

At the end of 10 years, they should actually aim for an invasion if they are to settle this militarily.
 
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I thought off topic posts were prevented here after a specific warning. Looks like there are two sets of rules still prevailing. One for desis and one for whites. Nice to note.

It seems clear to me that in the name of FoE, any shit is & should be edible. After all Indians are supposed to have robust digestions. Didn't we survive the Delhi belly?
"Deeply Regret Jallianwala Bagh": British PM Theresa May In Parliament

Please don't quote selectively Paddy. I do realise the debilitating effects of Paddyitis but you surely can tell the differences between human food & human waste & what is consumable or can't you ?
 
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In fairness, Europe is now fully funding the Ukraine War with no US help, as Trump asked them too, so TME has to be Trump's responsibility.



 
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