Israel-Hamas Conflict: Updates & Discussions

Tatvamasi said:
<Looks like moron took the bait>

Calling something "international" wont make it law of the world. No one gave any anglo saxon right to judge these.
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They were agreed at the UN. We could not care less whether you gave permission, if you break those rules you will not set foot in most of the world without being arrested. FWIW most terrorists disagree with such laws and rarely give permission.
Tatvamasi said:
Half of the world does not recognize its jurisdiction. Learn about basics of political science and whats actions by state means.

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I thought it was just 'Anglo-Saxons' LOL.

The specifics of the terrorism are covered by international law, like hostage taking, child abduction, killing civilians etc.

The definition of terrorism remains unaffected by your Anglophobic whining, state or non-state does not matter:
terrorism
/ˈtɛrərɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
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It could be argued quite successfully that authoritarian regimes rule by terrorism.
 
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BMD said:
Won't work, Hamas will just leave via tunnels and come back later.
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Yeah, like the Taliban. But just like the Taliban, they will become politically useless, and Gaza will become the main warzone, hence protecting Israeli citizens, while also slowly wiping out the Palestinians. The Israelis will also carry out overt assassinations of Hamas members who try to gain a voice, so that's that.
 
IMHO this was allowed by MOSSAD itself. This has to do with Iran and war between Iran and Chritian world to make Iran a Chirstian country again. Now US+Israel will go allout for Iran. This is a direct result of dedollorisation process initiated by India. All war zones created by US have to now shut down and reach final conclusion. For over an year, this corridor thru Saudia to Israel was in the making and that is why Adani picked up Haifa port. It was announced recently. But this has been the oldest and time tested corridor for trade between India and Europe.
Turkey stated that they will not allow this corridor if Turkey is not part of it as old trade route passed thru constatinople. They have used Iran and Pakistan to ruin it. This corridor is now dead as Saudia will now be forced to support Hamas and Hezbollow for the success they have had in the intial assualt. But they do not know the finality of it. Every Sultan of ME Asia will be killed. Islam might not remain a state religion of many countries in ME Asia.
 
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randomradio said:
This is probably the biggest intelligence failure on Mossad's part in their history. The level of surprise achieved by Hamas is worse than what India witnessed in Kargil.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1710997124119154832

Have they gone woke or something?
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NOpe. In intelligence world we operate very differently. Like we killed Nijjar and Gurpatwat Singh is on borrowed times even being a CIA asset. Our RAW guys are trained initially by NSG and MARCOS. And we have a large number of women operatives now who are willing to do Mata Haari for the nation. After this training they are sent to either Israel or Russia for field craft training as these two countries have the best field craft. CIA is more into Off air intelligence like they did in the case of Nijjhar. Doubts but no certain info. RAW realised that using field operatives is bad as they can be caught so RAW uses the drug cartels and criminal gangs to do the job. Tender is put out on dark web to kill and the guys get paid for successful hit. Why waste time in assigning own operatives when we can pay for the job.
This is how all these *censored*s have been taken out. Local criminal gangs have killed them paid for by RAW. You can never find a money trail as we Indians are masters in Hawala Transsaction. CIA even today does not know how Hawala operates.
You can't kill cockroaches but you can control their population. RAW does just that. We use one cockroach against another. Who is killing our targets in Pakistan? Its ISI controlled drug cartel which we now control. We are making ISI kill its own people. And if a cockroach becomes bigger, we replace him with another.
If ever Canada makes the records public about invlvement of RAW operatives in the act, they will also have to share the details of the drug cartel which killed him and how that drug cartel was associated with CIA.
RAW has the finest SNATCH record in the world. we lift up guys from all over the world and bring them to India and their arrest is shown either at Delhi airport or Delhi Railway station. I hope u know what Snatch operation means.
 
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randomradio said:
Very likely fake, but one of the possibilities.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711069412080734597

This could be your revenge. But I don't think Azerbaijan will want to risk a war with Iran, or even Russia.
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This appears to be a stretch, specially since the ops on ground are in its infancy. But somehow my gut says, Iran has things coming for them once this is done. Let’s wait and watch.


Not sure about accuracy, but 80% is a huge deal. Not sure where they came up with this percentage.
 
BMD said:
That isn't the government position. There are minorities of assholes in every country, that's the downside of free speech.
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That is canadas public union of employees not some motley group of ppl. FYI it is one of the largest unions in canada.

Supporting terrorists is not free speech. Real reason why no action is taken bcos terrorists are not damaging canada, usual double standards. If any one issues/encourages a threat of violence against another community/person they can be legally prosecuted. Lawfully such ppl can debarred from places/person to maintain peace, law & order.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
IMHO this was allowed by MOSSAD itself. This has to do with Iran and war between Iran and Chritian world to make Iran a Chirstian country again. Now US+Israel will go allout for Iran. This is a direct result of dedollorisation process initiated by India. All war zones created by US have to now shut down and reach final conclusion. For over an year, this corridor thru Saudia to Israel was in the making and that is why Adani picked up Haifa port. It was announced recently. But this has been the oldest and time tested corridor for trade between India and Europe.
Turkey stated that they will not allow this corridor if Turkey is not part of it as old trade route passed thru constatinople. They have used Iran and Pakistan to ruin it. This corridor is now dead as Saudia will now be forced to support Hamas and Hezbollow for the success they have had in the intial assualt. But they do not know the finality of it. Every Sultan of ME Asia will be killed. Islam might not remain a state religion of many countries in ME Asia.
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I highly doubt the US has planned something this big while still being heavily dependent on oil imports. Any severe disruption here will cripple all the non-oil economies. Nothing that disrupts the normal flow of oil must be allowed.

The corridor can still work due to Indian and European involvement as long as we maintain our current status. At best it has been delayed.
 
randomradio said:
Yeah, like the Taliban. But just like the Taliban, they will become politically useless, and Gaza will become the main warzone, hence protecting Israeli citizens, while also slowly wiping out the Palestinians. The Israelis will also carry out overt assassinations of Hamas members who try to gain a voice, so that's that.
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I mean they'll completely leave via tunnels and come back after Israel leaves.
Defc0n said:

Israel officially blaming Iran.
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Figures, I wonder who provided the training though, Iran too maybe?
 
randomradio said:
It's based on the premise that Israel is gonna disappear. It would mean all the Jews would have to flee or die, so they have nothing to lose, they will use nukes regardless of public position at that point.

A proxy war won't damage Israel though. The casualty rate is completely lopsided in their favor.
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As I said its not going to happen overnite it will take a decade or two, war of attrition weakens the cntry but ppl will still be under belief they can pull it through. Its not jews are going to disappear instantly they will be absorbed slowly and then wiped out.

Israels population compared to surrounding cntries pretty less, more over these terrorists are plenty in supply from pakistan to africa . Advantage these terrorists have is to put a small cntry like israel under stress will be few thousands but to defend 5 times that..

One of the problem with israel is ppl are educated and they will emigrate to other cntries , its not they will keep fighting for eternity. Its just they need to reach that critical level where ratio of number of ppl willing to fight vs normal ppl goes down.
 
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jetray said:
That is canadas public union of employees not some motley group of ppl. FYI it is one of the largest unions in canada.

Supporting terrorists is not free speech. Real reason why no action is taken bcos terrorists are not damaging canada, usual double standards. If any one issues/encourages a threat of violence against another community/person they can be legally prosecuted. Lawfully such ppl can debarred from places/person to maintain peace, law & order.
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Give me a break, since when did a union represent the government of a country?:ROFLMAO: Our government has spent the best part of the last two years arguing with the unions FFS. And you don't even know if the poster has the support of the entire union, not that 700k is a particularly large chunk of 40m anyway.

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Canadian politicians condemn unprecedented Hamas attack on Israel - National | Globalnews.ca

The attacks pushed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to declare the country is now at "at war'' in a televised address, where he announced a mass army mobilization.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1710653894626308235
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As I said its not going to happen overnite it will take a decade or two, war of attrition weakens the cntry but ppl will still be under belief they can pull it through. Its not jews are going to disappear instantly they will be absorbed slowly and then wiped out.

Israels population compared to surrounding cntries pretty less, more over these terrorists are plenty in supply from pakistan to africa . Advantage these terrorists have is to put a small cntry like israel under stress will be few thousands but to defend 5 times that..

One of the problem with israel is ppl are educated and they will emigrate to other cntries , its not they will keep fighting for eternity. Its just they need to reach that critical level where ratio of number of ppl willing to fight vs normal ppl goes down.
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Give your ar5e a chance.
 
Guynextdoor said:
I think they will just allow the hostages to be executed and proceed with the operation. How come EVERYONE except these jokers know that when on the wall ISrael will go to any extent. These idiots just wake up every single day telling themselves how the jew is a coward and the jew doesn't fight and how the jew will just run away. And these jokers make military strategy on this bullshit.

This is the most wasteful attack of the 21st century. It got many people killed and will get no strategic advantage for Hamas, If the hamas and gaza gets wiped out, it is darwin's theory being proved right. Sorry to say, but that is what it is.
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what is surprising here, thats how they have operated for centuries. They keep relentlessly attacking , even after suffering defeat. Israel can wipe these ppl out but a new bunch will crop up in surrounding cntries and the cycle will restart again. Things may look ok for israel now but it may not stay the same in future unless their population increases manifold.
 
The use of JDAM bombs by Israeli F-16 aircraft in the Gaza Strip. The Israel Defense Forces declared the Gaza Strip a closed military zone and began striking Hamas units and the Islamic Jihad group in the Gaza Strip. The video shows a US-made Israeli F-16I aircraft preparing for takeoff, with JDAMs mounted on the aircraft. After being dropped, the bomb opens its wings and flies towards the target. According to the latest data, the Israeli Army hit 10 Hamas targets in the Gaza Strip, including the Hamas intelligence headquarters. The UN said that more than twenty thousand residents of the Gaza Strip were forced to leave their homes.

 
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As I said its not going to happen overnite it will take a decade or two, war of attrition weakens the cntry but ppl will still be under belief they can pull it through. Its not jews are going to disappear instantly they will be absorbed slowly and then wiped out.

Israels population compared to surrounding cntries pretty less, more over these terrorists are plenty in supply from pakistan to africa . Advantage these terrorists have is to put a small cntry like israel under stress will be few thousands but to defend 5 times that..

One of the problem with israel is ppl are educated and they will emigrate to other cntries , its not they will keep fighting for eternity. Its just they need to reach that critical level where ratio of number of ppl willing to fight vs normal ppl goes down.
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The Israelis are radical enough to not let that happen. 40% of the men and 33% of women are military trained, that's of the whole population. When it comes to Jews alone, it's 70% and 50% resply. So the majority of Jews have served in the army at one time or the other.

It's a highly militarized population, so they are not gonna simply get up and leave.

The Israelis also have the habit of taking the fight into enemy territory and wiping out large chunks of their population in the name of collateral damage. It's 'cause unlike the Arabs they are fighting for the right to live and they tend to use any means necessary. During the last foray into Gaza in 2014, the Israelis lost about 70 soldiers but killed over 2000 fighters and civilians.
 
The Israel Defense Forces began to carry out general mobilization and form armored strike groups. The video shows the transfer of military equipment, Israeli M113 armored personnel carriers, 155-mm M109A5 self-propelled guns, American-made HMMWV armored vehicles and Israeli-made Merkava Mark 4 tanks. According to the latest data, the evacuation of the population from the northern regions of Israel bordering Lebanon has begun. The Israeli leadership also turned to the United States for help.

 
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