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Over 100 people stranded as floodwaters submerge Kartarpur Corridor in Pakistan
Kartarpur Corridor complex, including Gurdwara Darbar Sahib, submerged by floodwaters, leading to evacuations and rescue efforts.
Pakistan: Punjab on red alert as army deployed amid rising floodwaters
Heavy rains and India’s dam releases push rivers to “exceptionally high” levels
gulfnews.com
For real? Seems unlikely
. What's the fauji foundation doing
Over 100 people stranded as floodwaters submerge Kartarpur Corridor in Pakistan
Kartarpur Corridor complex, including Gurdwara Darbar Sahib, submerged by floodwaters, leading to evacuations and rescue efforts.www.thehindu.com
Pakistan: Punjab on red alert as army deployed amid rising floodwaters
Heavy rains and India’s dam releases push rivers to “exceptionally high” levelsgulfnews.com
Yeah they will blame it on India and try to ignite sikh sentiments.
In Karachi, Pakistan's economic capital and largest city, fear has become a commodity. In 2024, Forbes Advisor ranked Karachi as the second-most dangerous city in the world for tourists. Due to the ineffectiveness of law enforcement agencies in curbing this violence, private security companies are thriving and expanding their clientele beyond affluent residential areas to include schools, shopping malls and corporate headquarters.
No Doubt, P@-kis are bunch of MADRASACHAP idiots. They tried to Breed Hyenas for 4yrs only to find both are male Hyenas.....
It is generally difficult to identify gender of Hyenas, but what their zoologists and scientists were doing...
No Doubt, P@-kis are bunch of MADRASACHAP idiots. They tried to Breed Hyenas for 4yrs only to find both are male Hyenas.....
Apparently in Madrasa they are only taught to identify female Goat which they can identify from miles,....
So after establishing diplomatic relations with Armenia successfully, Pakistan now seeks enhanced relations with Russia as a counter balance to India, which Shehbaz Sharif already mentioned. Pakistan knows that world sees them as a counter to India. Indian being independent in weapons development wouldnt be liked by countries which are close.
Russia has become increasingly dependent on China and for all intent and purposes in in its block. Like USSR had its bloc.
And since pak is China's satelite state, the geopolitical Great game ensures that both will improve ties at some level.
But it would be wrong observation of anyone thinks it's becoz of countering India. Pak doesn't need russia for that neither russia have USSR like clout to provide it with something like in 1965. China is there for that.
It's purely against USA and US led bloc and it's influence in west asia. Russia and China are actively countering them. And Pakistan's importance has always stemmed from its geo location in strategic calculus for west asia. Not East Asia or south Asia. And while common sense entails that it could've prospered them, instead that geography has worked against it due to mis-aligned priority.
India is a second thought for current circumstances, for RC. For USA, it wants India in its bloc more strategically like pak was. And that's why strategic autonomy is so important, because pak is a glaring example of what happens without it.
That's the situation. Not india centric. But western bloc centric
And since pak is China's satelite state, the geopolitical Great game ensures that both will improve ties at some level.
But it would be wrong observation of anyone thinks it's becoz of countering India. Pak doesn't need russia for that neither russia have USSR like clout to provide it with something like in 1965. China is there for that.
It's purely against USA and US led bloc and it's influence in west asia. Russia and China are actively countering them. And Pakistan's importance has always stemmed from its geo location in strategic calculus for west asia. Not East Asia or south Asia. And while common sense entails that it could've prospered them, instead that geography has worked against it due to mis-aligned priority.
India is a second thought for current circumstances, for RC. For USA, it wants India in its bloc more strategically like pak was. And that's why strategic autonomy is so important, because pak is a glaring example of what happens without it.
That's the situation. Not india centric. But western bloc centric
You'd recall that Imran Khan had publicly praised India's stance of buying Russian oil as 'a country with an independent foriegn policy' despite being a US ally. Pindi was so furious they had him convicted, sent him to jail and threw the keys away.
I admired Imran because he had a bit of an independent streak to him. Otoh, Shehbaz is a rubber stamp PM much like our own former PM Manmohan Singh. Pak is trying to balance domestic public opinion which is rabidly anti-America with economic compulsions by courting Russia.
Its nothing new though. Russia is apparently rebuilding a steel factory + gas pipeline in Pak. It has sold mil gear including Mi-35 gunships which does have implications for India.
It's interesting how the tables have turned with US warming up to its old lackey Pak once again, while China is backing out of CPEC projects and engaging with India on trade and other matters. Though their long term loyalties won't change, it is certainly a twist no one could've foreseen even a few months ago.
It's not wrong observation it is the right observation. After Op Sindoor Pakistan wants best weapons. They know Chinese weapons wont work hence they will get it from others too. And in Armenia they will play a game of deal spoilor for India. The X handles were peddling lies that Armenia has cancelled defence deals with India creating a propaganda. Do not take it lightly. They will create a situation where sovereignity of Armenia will be a tool played in their propaganda.
The more they engage the more investments will enter Pakistan and then it will tough for India to convince the rest that the Indian military took action against the tangos.
You observed that these developments were india centric. That was wrong.
It doesn't mean that it has no implications for Indian security. It does, but India isn't the target as implied in your post.
Stop thinking that everyone is our to get us. We are growing but not even close to become center point of other nations cooperation.
Armenia is more about supporting azerbaijan for pakistan. And it's infact in opposite to russian interests.
Russia is losing both Armenia and azerbaijan market. While azerbaijan market is being grabbed by turkey, china.. Armenia has got india. India which actually is very open to license produce russian systems and export.
So this dialogue wasn't india centric.. as for pak, it will always be india centric but that's old story and our agencies handle it on daily basis. Even in Armenia they will counter it. But point about Armenia doesnt related to your observation and conclusion.
Also, don't fall into your own narrative that chinese systems don't work. They are political narratives not mil-tech. China provided degraded and outdated versions as was apparent from day 1. And neither does PAF had the foresight to use them optimally. The battle was about readiness more than it was about systems. The same S-400 are being shot in Russian war but proved exemplary in op sindoor. Cause our military made it a potent system through integration.
Don't underestimate chinese military systems by any standard. Especially exported to US informant infiltrated pak.
Mark my words, if RA&W can counter the threats to India arising out of ISIs habit of diverting funds.. India will be safe while this battle b/w US and China/Russia will destroy pak further.
India despite its strategic and economic depth have to be very astute in maintaining strategic autonomy.. a pakistan with no such advantage is in no position today to demand autonomy. It will be puppeted like always. Pulled apart from all ends.
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India and Pakistan when viewed as a neutral observer with no vested interests in geopolitics...
They present a very contrasting cases. Both deal with similar issues. Share respective geographical advantages that's lucrative for US security apparatus. A superpower at border.
Similar culture at one point. Similar in many ways at their starting point and even for most of the pre-2000s era.
But while both faced challenges, the divergence in development of respective economies, policy culture, red lines, principles is so opposite.
For all the blame to nehru we do and much of it justifiably, it was probably a very crucial decision he took for non-aligned movement given India's internal weaknesses.
If only he non-aligned with indira gandhi too
You observed that these developments were india centric. That was wrong.
It doesn't mean that it has no implications for Indian security. It does, but India isn't the target as implied in your post.
Stop thinking that everyone is our to get us. We are growing but not even close to become center point of other nations cooperation.
Armenia is more about supporting azerbaijan for pakistan. And it's infact in opposite to russian interests.
Russia is losing both Armenia and azerbaijan market. While azerbaijan market is being grabbed by turkey, china.. Armenia has got india. India which actually is very open to license produce russian systems and export.
So this dialogue wasn't india centric.. as for pak, it will always be india centric but that's old story and our agencies handle it on daily basis. Even in Armenia they will counter it. But point about Armenia doesnt related to your observation and conclusion.
Also, don't fall into your own narrative that chinese systems don't work. They are political narratives not mil-tech. China provided degraded and outdated versions as was apparent from day 1. And neither does PAF had the foresight to use them optimally. The battle was about readiness more than it was about systems. The same S-400 are being shot in Russian war but proved exemplary in op sindoor. Cause our military made it a potent system through integration.
Don't underestimate chinese military systems by any standard. Especially exported to US informant infiltrated pak.
Mark my words, if RA&W can counter the threats to India arising out of ISIs habit of diverting funds.. India will be safe while this battle b/w US and China/Russia will destroy pak further.
India despite its strategic and economic depth have to be very astute in maintaining strategic autonomy.. a pakistan with no such advantage is in no position today to demand autonomy. It will be puppeted like always. Pulled apart from all ends.
This is a Pakistan news thread and I am talking about Pakistan only. Chinese weapons work but what they have provided to Pakistan in my opinion are not their A grade weapons from quality as you said.
This was the wrong observation. And since you related it to russia-pak ties and brought in Armenia, I obvio had to expand on the issues vis a vis caucus.
I am also talking about Pakistan only and others' calculus when engaging with them.
And I doubt anyone in 21st century sees pakistan as a counter to India. They see pakistan as a base for West Asian interests. They might go along with this narrative cause of ISIs insistence, not the other way around.
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Pakistan is a counter to India , just like India is counter to China as per them. This is why PM Modi gave a message by meeting Putin and Xi with that this equation will not work, if India moves on.
Shehbaz Sharif mentioned India in his bilateral talks with Russia, and then said to bring balance and regional progress. What is this balance all about? You do not know these Pakistanis. They hide their intention but this time, this Sharif was so desperate he couldn't keep it in his stomach.
What you're describing is pakistans delusion
, not russian or larger world.Yup, acc to them india will be their vanguard to counter china in IOR but that's where india differs from Pakistan. There's a bipartisan consensus ( public) that overt foreign intervention, boots on ground ( like pak in cold war era) will be unacceptable. And that's been the constant position of ours for last decade. We never had the delusion to do what pak did and does.
Altho there was a brief UPA period that's shoddy.
On a side note: you example of Modi's china visit is the change in our foreign policy that we needed.
From a passive & meek non-aligned to active and assertive multi-alignment policy. And with that comes risks and rewards. Spooked neighborhood.. but you don't start being meek just so Neighbors dont complain. No strong nation will do that, especially one touted as having one of worlds top 5 military.
Nepal, Bangladesh talked nice while acting as ISI infiltration nodes.. now they get rattled because even pak isn't spared, let alone them. So let them shout, we don't change our FP for them. Confidence and respect.
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