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Not gloating about Pakistan prevents proxy violence?!?!

I would argue the only thing that prevents proxy violence in India is having solid deterrence at all levels. Proxy war against India by Pakistan should be countered by proxy war by India against Pakistan.

Which division of this country widens when we gloat about Pakistan?

The relative peace at the Indo-Pak border isn't because of some kind of good will. It is because continued CFV was costing Pakistan disproportionately more both in terms of manpower & resources than it was costing India.

If India is pinning her hopes of economic development on peace with Pakistan, we might as well give it up. Economic development will have to happen despite of a lack of peace with Pakistan.
Everything you ask for is there in the interview with Vikram Sood.
When indians amplify this message on all social media that RAW is openly killing pakistanis inside Pakistan, Pakistanis will invariably pick it up, whether its true or false. This message is then amplified by their media, which creates unnecessary pressure on Pak army to explain the deaths. They already have their hands full with Imran Khan. You are giving them the ammunition to distract from that clusterfck. Our country has more than enough fault-lines to exploit. Caste, religion were the usual tools. Now, linguistic & ethnic divisions are also being amplified, especially with social media. You are over-estimating GoI's capabilities and under-estimating pak's capabilities.
 
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Everything you ask for is there in the interview with Vikram Sood.
There is a difference between what an ex-intel chief turned public intellectual is allowed to say & what random people like me are allowed to say. What Mr. Sood says can be viewed as the official position of the GoI. There is every reason for him to be circumspect while commenting on Pakistan.

When indians amplify this message on all social media that RAW is openly killing pakistanis inside Pakistan, Pakistanis will invariably pick it up, whether its true or false. This message is then amplified by their media, which creates unnecessary pressure on Pak army to explain the deaths. They already have their hands full with Imran Khan. You are giving them the ammunition to distract from that clusterfck.
This is a bit of a flight of fancy, no? Pakistani miliary will be forced into accountability because random Indians are posting about something. Since when does the Pak army explain themselves to their people?

Besides, distracting from a clusterfck doesn't remove/solve the clusterfck. It only delays the solution.

Our country has more than enough fault-lines to exploit. Caste, religion were the usual tools. Now, linguistic & ethnic divisions are also being amplified, especially with social media.
I know all this, but my question was which division of this country widens when we gloat about Pakistan?

Cuz in my experience disliking Pakistan has been a great unifier for our people. Irrespective of caste or creed, people generally dislike Pakistan.

You are over-estimating GoI's capabilities and under-estimating pak's capabilities.
I think in the recent past we have over-estimated Pakistan's capabilities & under-estimated our own. This led to a situation where they could sponsor one terrorist attack after the other on us with impunity. Our meek response allowed them that impunity.

India & Pakistan are in a state of proxy war with each other. This is not a new development; this has been happening since the end of the 1st Indo-Pak war in 1948. Since then, this proxy war has eventually transformed into a full spectrum conflict. Everything from trade, economy, water sharing, information, media, diplomacy, intelligence, cricket, visas, etc. are all part of this conflict. There has been occasional breakout of this proxy/cold war into a conventional war. When the conventional war ends the proxy war resumes.

In my view this was an inevitable conflict, bound to happen no matter what. If India wasn't partitioned, instead of Indo-Pak wars we would have Indian civil wars. This is an ideological conflict & it is unlikely to end the same way conventional wars end. It's more likely that this will end in an agonizingly slow wrangling positional battle.

This is how I see the situation with Pakistan & Bangladesh. Since it is a positional battle, it is not enough that we grow our economy. We must grow faster than them. It is not enough that we have peace at home, they shouldn't have peace at home. It is not enough that we improve our relationship with country X, Y & Z. We must actively try to ruin their relationship with country X, Y & Z.

Enforce a zero-sum situation wherever we can win. Wherever we cannot win yet, co-operate & build up capability.
 
Afghanistani who showed the largest wannabe-aryan alliance ever who their original-aryan forefather was, now support their historic brothers in Hindustan more than Pottystani ancestor-shifters
 
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Dulles, according to Haqqani, was so poorly informed that he even confused ethnic identities. When columnist Walter Lippmann questioned Pakistan's relevance to the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO), Dulles responded that "the Brits tell me that the only people who know how to fight in that region are the Gurkhas, so I have signed on Pakistan as allies."

Lippmann corrected him, saying, "But Foster, the Gurkhas are not Pakistanis." Dulles reportedly replied, "Oh, I thought they were Muslims." Lippmann clarified again, "They are Hindus from Nepal." "So that’s how the Americans kind of got into Pakistan — on a total false premise," Haqqani said.

I nearly choked on my dessert . The level of awareness of the Amerimutt from ordinary Joe to Secretary of State !

It's not for nothing that he was known as Dull Duller Dulles. Sweetie would be proud . Ja ? @Innominate
 
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... An official statement said that the decision to promote General Munirwas taken at a Cabinet meet chaired by Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif. Munir’s promotion makes him the second officer in the country’s history to reach the rank. The last and only other Pakistani to hold the rank was General Ayub Khan, who elevated himself to the position in 1959, a year after he assumed the presidency following a military coup. Doesn’t that say a lot?
 
Pakistan raises defence spending by 20% but slashes overall federal budget

New Delhi: Pakistan, which has an overall debt of USD 274 billion, Tuesday raised its defence budget by a whopping 20 percent even as it cut its overall budget by 7 percent.

In the new budget, the defence allocation stood at 14.5% of Pakistan’s total federal budget and around 2.2% of its GDP, which is projected at $411 billion (Rs 34.3 lakh crore).

In Pakistan, unlike in the case of India, pension is not part of the defence budget.
Finance Minister Muhammad Aurangzeb unveiled the federal budget for fiscal year 2025–26 which stands at PKR 17.573 trillion (Rs 5.27 lakh crore), down 6.9% from the previous year.

However, Aurangzeb announced a significantly increased allocation of PKR 2.55 trillion (approx Rs 76,500 crore) for defence, up from PKR 2.12 trillion (approx Rs 63,600 crore) in the outgoing fiscal.

In FY25, Pakistan had allocated PKR 2.1 trillion (approx Rs 63,600 crore) for defence. Additionally, PKR 563 billion ($1.99 billion) was earmarked for military pensions, which are not included in the official defence budget.

The new defence allocation accounts for 14.5% of Pakistan’s total federal budget and around 2.2% of its GDP, which is projected at $411 billion (Rs 34.3 lakh crore). Including military pensions, total military-related expenditure for last year stood close to PKR 2.66 trillion (Rs 79,800 crore), or about 3.2% of GDP.

In contrast, India’s defence budget for 2025-2026 was marked at Rs 6.57 lakh crore, nearly nine times Pakistan’s defence outlay and higher than Pakistan’s entire federal budget. However, India’s defence spending, which includes pensions, amounts to merely 1.9% of its GDP.

The finance minister began his address tabling the budget in the National Assembly on Tuesday by announcing: “This budget is being presented at a historic time when the nation showed unity (and) determination,” he said, hinting at the hostilities between India-Pakistan last month.

“The spirit with which we protected our national sovereignty, we need to ensure our financial security in the same way,” the minister said, as he outlined a series of economic reforms and fiscal targets.

The country’s Planning Minister, Ahsan Iqbal, had already hinted on Saturday that the government would be hiking its defence budget for the 2025-26 fiscal year.

“It is our national duty to provide the armed forces with whatever they need in this budget to bolster their capacity and defend our country in the future. It has been proven that we have a dangerous neighbour (India) who attacked us in the night, but we gave them a befitting response,” he was quoted as saying by Pakistan’s Dawn.


Big defence spend but slow growth and high debt

The budget was presented a day after Aurangzeb unveiled the Pakistan Economic Survey 2024–25, which showed the country’s economy had grown 2.5% in FY24 and was projected to grow 2.7% in FY25. While that marks a recovery from the -0.2% contraction in 2023, the growth remains below historical averages and lower than the 3.6% initially targeted for this year.

The country’s total debt now stands at PKR 76 trillion (approx $274 billion or Rs 22.89 lakh crore), of which PKR 51.5 trillion (Rs 15.45 lakh crore) was domestic and PKR 24.5 trillion (Rs 7.35 lakh crore) was sourced externally.

In nominal terms, Pakistan’s economy is estimated to have grown to $411 billion (Rs 34.3 lakh crore), still far below its regional peers. Aurangzeb, however, called the upcoming fiscal year a “turnaround story” and projected a modest but stabilising recovery.

He said global GDP growth was expected at 2.8%, placing Pakistan’s outlook within a comparable international frame.

The budget comes under the watchful eyes of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), with which Pakistan remains engaged under a reform-linked bailout programme.

Amidst the 87-hour India-Pakistan conflict earlier last month, the IMF had cleared immediate disbursal of $1 billion on 9 May to Pakistan for economic reforms under a package approved last year and another $1.4 billion to reduce vulnerabilities to natural disasters.

As part of this programme, Pakistan has committed to raising revenue and cutting its fiscal deficit. Subsequently, The 2025-2026 budget has set an ambitious tax revenue target of PKR 14.131 trillion (approx Rs 4.24 lakh crore), an 8.95% increase over last year’s goal. However, the Economic Survey acknowledged the challenge of meeting this target amid sluggish growth and new trade tariffs from the US, Pakistan’s largest export destination.

Aurangzeb also announced on Tuesday, moves to procure cheaper energy by shutting down expensive power plants and attracting foreign investment from countries like Turkey in the oil and gas sector, underscoring Pakistan’s deepening ties with Turkey.

Pakistan’s Parliament will now begin debating the budget on Friday, 14 June, after a two-day recess. Discussions will continue until 21 June, followed by debate and voting on grant demands and motions on 24 and 25 June. The Finance Bill 2025 is expected to be passed on 26 June, with supplementary grants taken up the next day.
 
something weird is going on. For some reason, US is hard turning towards Pakistan. This is hyphenation in full power. What they want from Pakistan? I dunno but they are hard supporting Pakistan.

And that Failed Marshal is going on US Army Day Parade on 14 June

Must be Iran and Afghanistan issues

Also Someone said on Twitter that Pakistani has given one PL 15 to US saying that it has been used against India

Pakistan will double cross anyone
 
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