Iran and US agree deal to end war as Israel says its forces will stay in Lebanon

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With Israel, there can be no peace in the Middle East
I would say its tribal/barbaric culture of islamic world, Israel is THE Most Pro-human and Pro-liberty country in Middle-East.
( Source:My inference from my understanding of human psychology, specially related to culture, religion and i have deep passion for human culture/religion and how its evolves for thousands of years)

And then world need to seat together and draw the map of middle east according to peace and economic development with no local militry(except paramilitary). Current borders are f*cked up.

Thought i dont agree with many things in the below map. But it's closest to what i think its needed.

Obv, Israel won't give up a single inch, and Palestine(arabs) are not native to Palestine so they may be shifted to other arab countries(to their actual homeland).

GCC is anyways quite empty with lots of free(oil) money, with mostly filled with immigration who can never ever get citizenship, not even PR, so why not use Palestinian to replace those immigrants ??

The citizens of GCC will not feel any different as Palestinians are arabs too, just they are poor than them, but GCC have lots of space, oil wnd jobs to fill the place.
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From western pro Israel and it still sucks
The most prominent historical and recent conflicts involving Israel include:
  • The 1956 Suez Crisis: Following Egypt’s nationalization of the Suez Canal, Israel, along with the United Kingdom and France, launched a joint offensive and invaded Egypt. [1]
  • The 1967 Six-Day War: After Arab neighbors mobilized troops and blockaded Israeli shipping routes, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egypt and Syria, leading to the capture of the West Bank, Gaza, and other territories. [1, 2]
  • The 1982 Lebanon War: Israel invaded Lebanon to expel the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and establish a security zone. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Protracted Gaza Campaigns: Israel launched several extensive military assaults on Gaza (e.g., in 2008, 2012, and 2014) following periods of blockade, sieges, and rocket fire. [1, 2]
  • The Israel-Hamas War (2023–Present): Following the October 7, 2023, attacks led by Hamas into southern Israel, the Israeli military launched a massive bombing campaign and ground invasion of the Gaza Strip. [1, 2]
  • The 2026 Iran-Israel Conflict: The war expanded into a multi-front regional conflict in early 2026, involving U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iranian leadership, which led to retaliatory attacks across the Middle East. [1, 2]
 
From western pro Israel and it still sucks
The most prominent historical and recent conflicts involving Israel include:
  • The 1956 Suez Crisis: Following Egypt’s nationalization of the Suez Canal, Israel, along with the United Kingdom and France, launched a joint offensive and invaded Egypt. [1]
  • The 1967 Six-Day War: After Arab neighbors mobilized troops and blockaded Israeli shipping routes, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egypt and Syria, leading to the capture of the West Bank, Gaza, and other territories. [1, 2]
  • The 1982 Lebanon War: Israel invaded Lebanon to expel the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and establish a security zone. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Protracted Gaza Campaigns: Israel launched several extensive military assaults on Gaza (e.g., in 2008, 2012, and 2014) following periods of blockade, sieges, and rocket fire. [1, 2]
  • The Israel-Hamas War (2023–Present): Following the October 7, 2023, attacks led by Hamas into southern Israel, the Israeli military launched a massive bombing campaign and ground invasion of the Gaza Strip. [1, 2]
  • The 2026 Iran-Israel Conflict: The war expanded into a multi-front regional conflict in early 2026, involving U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iranian leadership, which led to retaliatory attacks across the Middle East. [1, 2]

Imagine Isreal gave up arms , what will happen to it 20 years later?
 
Another humiliation for American military. Spend trillion dollars a year and still can't achieve strategic objectives. But hey, we will get another set of podcast bros, book bros and think tank bros to tell us how this was an American victory and how badass their military is. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
We'll see what the end result is. I object to the closing of the original thread because I don't see the situation as fully over yet - there's no change in posture.

As regards, success/failure, contemplate the damage exchange ratio and the fact that the mainland US is completely unscathed. The Iranian nuclear weapons program has certainly been delayed if nothing else and the US once again proved its ability to achieve air superiority, with large bombers overflying Iran unimpeded. Meanwhile Russia has spent over a trillion $s on Ukraine alone, doesn't have air superiority and their own troops/pro-Russian bloggers are now saying Ukraine controls the skies over the front, and now Russia have dones roaming over their capital city. Kind of puts things in perspective.


And, this just in:


...after >4 years.

Oh and then there's the casualties. Debate the figures all you like but they're f*king huge either way.

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Bravo, after spending billions and losing 42 aircraft in this pointless war, Iran has come out on top. They get a better deal than Obama gave them. White nationalists have proven themselves to be the superior race:ROFLMAO:. Maybe they should rename the Department of War to something else next time & see if that works.

With Israel, there can be no peace in the Middle East
All the countries in that region are re_tarded. Netanyahu among the worst. Saudis are rap_ing & shooting refugees at their borders so much so that there is a wikipedia page for it. UAE is funding groups that commit war crimes. These 2 are the richest Gulf States. lmao. As I said there should be a name for this entire region.

Just like there is golden crescent
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There should be a ret@rd crescent as well.
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Everyone east of them is industrialising & improving their living standards. Myanmar being the exception.
 
Bravo, after spending billions and losing 42 aircraft in this pointless war, Iran has come out on top.
42 aircraft counting 25 drones, which at $10-12m/unit are less expensive than some missiles. How many MRBMs did Iran fire FFS, most of which hit nothing? How much do MRBMs cost?

They get a better deal than Obama gave them. White nationalists have proven themselves to be the superior race:ROFLMAO:. Maybe they should rename the Department of War to something else next time & see if that works.
Not sure where white nationalists came into it. Trump is an idiot though, I just don't see how Iran won here. JFC, they lost just about their entire navy and air force and dozens of top ranking officials, plus IRGC casualties in the tens of thousands. US - 15 soldiers killed. 6,000 deaths vs 15, or 400:1.

I mean if you were playing Battlefield and killed 400 people before dying, you'd be accused of hacking and they'd be right.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

All the countries in that region are re_tarded.
Clearly they're not alone.
Netanyahu among the worst. Saudis are rap_ing & shooting refugees at their borders so much so that there is a wikipedia page for it. UAE is funding groups that commit war crimes. These 2 are the richest Gulf States. lmao. As I said there should be a name for this entire region.
meanwhile Iran murders 46,500 of its own people.
Just like there is golden crescent
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There should be a ret@rd crescent as well.
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Your crescent needs expanding.

Everyone east of them is industrialising & improving their living standards. Myanmar being the exception.
Improving their living standards from what? Dying?
 
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Imagine Isreal gave up arms , what will happen to it 20 years later?
That entire region is a powder keg , any country which wants to safe in that region needs to build a 60 foot high wall and monitor it 24/7. Either they kill others or kill each other. Even Israel surviving for another decade will be an achievement. Probability of them getting overrun is very high.
 

White House released full text of the MoU

The points summarised are as follows:

1. The U.S. and Iran, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon.

2. The U.S. and Iran will respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.

3. The U.S. and Iran commit to achieving a final deal in a maximum of 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4. The U.S. will immediately begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic will be in proportion to the number of pre-war traffic being restored by Iran. The U.S. further undertakes to remove its military forces from the proximity of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5. Iran will make arrangements for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining, within 30 days. Iran will conduct a dialogue with Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz. (My comment: So they're free to charge a toll for any future traffic as long as they call it something else, like a 'service fee')

6. The U.S. undertakes with its regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of Iran, as part of the final deal after 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions will be granted. (My comment: Essentially, the US agrees to pay war reparations.)

7. The U.S. will terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the UNSC resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.

8. Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The U.S. and Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched materials, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with at a minimum a downblending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to Iran's nuclear needs. (My comment: Iran has never publicly said that they seek nuclear weapons, so no change there. The 60% enriched U will be downblended into more civilian-grade 5-7% enriched state, but the wording of the last line seems to indicate Iran will be allowed to keep their enrichment infrastructure as long as they promise not to enrich beyond the 5-7% mark).

9. Pending the final deal, the U.S. and Iran agree to maintain the status quo. Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the U.S. will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10. The U.S. undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU, waivers will be issued for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11. The U.S. undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The U.S. and Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations.

12. A monitoring mechanism will be established to supervise the implementation of this MoU and the subsequent deal.

13. After signing this MoU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the U.S. and Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal.

14. The final deal will be endorsed by a UNSC Resolution.

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Wow, total & complete surrender of American interest in the region, in return for what is essentially status quo ante bellum, how it was before the war.

One of the most pathetic defeats suffered by the US yet. Way worse than the Vietnam withdrawal.
 

White House released full text of the MoU

The points summarised are as follows:

1. The U.S. and Iran, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon.

2. The U.S. and Iran will respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.

3. The U.S. and Iran commit to achieving a final deal in a maximum of 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4. The U.S. will immediately begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic will be in proportion to the number of pre-war traffic being restored by Iran. The U.S. further undertakes to remove its military forces from the proximity of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5. Iran will make arrangements for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining, within 30 days. Iran will conduct a dialogue with Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz. (My comment: So they're free to charge a toll for any future traffic as long as they call it something else, like a 'service fee')

6. The U.S. undertakes with its regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of Iran, as part of the final deal after 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions will be granted. (My comment: Essentially, the US agrees to pay war reparations.)

7. The U.S. will terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the UNSC resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.

8. Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The U.S. and Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched materials, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with at a minimum a downblending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to Iran's nuclear needs. (My comment: Iran has never publicly said that they seek nuclear weapons, so no change there. The 60% enriched U will be downblended into more civilian-grade 5-7% enriched state, but the wording of the last line seems to indicate Iran will be allowed to keep their enrichment infrastructure as long as they promise not to enrich beyond the 5-7% mark).

9. Pending the final deal, the U.S. and Iran agree to maintain the status quo. Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the U.S. will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10. The U.S. undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU, waivers will be issued for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11. The U.S. undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The U.S. and Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations.

12. A monitoring mechanism will be established to supervise the implementation of this MoU and the subsequent deal.

13. After signing this MoU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the U.S. and Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal.

14. The final deal will be endorsed by a UNSC Resolution.

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Wow, total & complete surrender of American interest in the region, in return for what is essentially status quo ante bellum, how it was before the war.

One of the most pathetic defeats suffered by the US yet. Way worse than the Vietnam withdrawal.
They had a better deal in jcpoa with less retardation.
 
No one is suggesting anyone gives up arms, Stop committing genocide would be a good start
Genocide ? Do we have "indian communist" here ?

Well you know ? Let me give you a basic facts

The stats of how many people died in gaza war is given by whome ???

Can you guess it ? Or you know it ?
It fkkking hamas.

And they include hamas terrorist as well in whole count.

Btw, then you must also be crying that why we attacked muridke ? Because there also a child died.

Is it israel mistake that Palestine facilitate hamas terrorist ?

Action: If you gave food, shelter, bed and your daughter to terrorist your get orgasm killing innocent people from infant to bedridden.

Reaction: bomb dropping on you house.

Q: Is it war crime or genocide ??
A:NO according to geneva convention

Well i guess you are uneducated, go and read Geneva conventions.

Ohh wait, now Geneva Convention is also Islamophobic and zionist ??

Is attacking/bombing a building where terrorist are hidden and people there serves those terrorist is warcrime ??

If yes then tell me any country(yeah any country ) who has terrorism problem and had not done any warcrime ??

If u facilitate terrorist, you are terrorist.

Only idiots gonna sympathies with terrorist facilitator, and guess what ? Most head of states arr not idiots, that why you people feel that "zionist control world".
 
No one is suggesting anyone gives up arms, Stop committing genocide would be a good start
Let me tell you another fact(i need to tell as you people are as much educated as an infant(

Palestine(who are arabs) are not native to either gaza, west bank or the current boundry of state of israel.

Palestines are colonial people who settled there after ethnic cleansing Jews

And may i ask you a question ?

Why u people are so ignorant ? You people don't give a fkk about others people but in return expect them to carr about you people ??

You people lack basic understanding of human psychology or you people think yourself as superior whose issue matters while others issue does not matter.

Something like european nationalist, oh wait, you are from european, you people are actual genocider, obv you people dont consider other as equal to you people(neither their issue)
 
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(My comment: Iran has never publicly said that they seek nuclear weapons, so no change there.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Has anyone ever?

Let me tell you another fact(i need to tell as you people are as much educated as an infant(

Palestine(who are arabs) are not native to either gaza, west bank or the current boundry of state of israel.

Palestines are colonial people who settled there after ethnic cleansing Jews

And may i ask you a question ?

Why u people are so ignorant ? You people don't give a fkk about others people but in return expect them to carr about you people ??

You people lack basic understanding of human psychology or you people think yourself as superior whose issue matters while others issue does not matter.

Something like european nationalist, oh wait, you are from european, you people are actual genocider, obv you people dont consider other as equal to you people(neither their issue)
It's basically a case of convenient historical benchmarking. Forget everything before a given time.
 
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raphical conditions and overwhelming land power, whether or not it possesses an aircraft carrier is of no substantive significance to the dismemberment of Pakistan. Even if the carrier Vikrant had belonged to the Pakistani military at the time, it could not have averted the fate of Bangladesh. Several hundred years ago, the Netherlands earned the title of the "Coachman of the Seas," with 70% of the world's ships under its flag—its maritime supremacy was unmatched before or since. Yet it collapsed in an instant under the iron heel of Franc


White House released full text of the MoU

The points summarised are as follows:

1. The U.S. and Iran, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon.

2. The U.S. and Iran will respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.

3. The U.S. and Iran commit to achieving a final deal in a maximum of 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4. The U.S. will immediately begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic will be in proportion to the number of pre-war traffic being restored by Iran. The U.S. further undertakes to remove its military forces from the proximity of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5. Iran will make arrangements for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining, within 30 days. Iran will conduct a dialogue with Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz. (My comment: So they're free to charge a toll for any future traffic as long as they call it something else, like a 'service fee')

6. The U.S. undertakes with its regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of Iran, as part of the final deal after 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions will be granted. (My comment: Essentially, the US agrees to pay war reparations.)

7. The U.S. will terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the UNSC resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.

8. Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The U.S. and Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched materials, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with at a minimum a downblending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to Iran's nuclear needs. (My comment: Iran has never publicly said that they seek nuclear weapons, so no change there. The 60% enriched U will be downblended into more civilian-grade 5-7% enriched state, but the wording of the last line seems to indicate Iran will be allowed to keep their enrichment infrastructure as long as they promise not to enrich beyond the 5-7% mark).

9. Pending the final deal, the U.S. and Iran agree to maintain the status quo. Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the U.S. will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10. The U.S. undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU, waivers will be issued for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11. The U.S. undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The U.S. and Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations.

12. A monitoring mechanism will be established to supervise the implementation of this MoU and the subsequent deal.

13. After signing this MoU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the U.S. and Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal.

14. The final deal will be endorsed by a UNSC Resolution.

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Wow, total & complete surrender of American interest in the region, in return for what is essentially status quo ante bellum, how it was before the war.

One of the most pathetic defeats suffered by the US yet. Way worse than the Vietnam withdrawal.


Good for Global Peace and Asian economies. Iranian oil & gas will be legally exported to other countries. India can diversify their oil imports by at least 30 percent using Iranian oil.

Trump made a huge mistake by tearing apart JCPOA in his first term. Now this deal looks very bad when compared to JCPOA.

Basically, USA has been forced to include Lebanon in this deal thereby elevating the geopolitical stature of Iran making them a regional powerhouse.
USA gonna pay 300 Billion USD as war reparations either directly or indirectly.
Iran and Oman (with advice/inputs from other arab states) gonna create a framework to control the Strait of Hormuz. This is huge. Basically, they may charge a toll after 60 days. This is a huge L for USA and UN.



From Indian point of view, Chabahar port operations may restart in the future.
 
It's basically a case of convenient historical benchmarking. Forget everything before a given time.
Agree. But question arises, what given time ?

Israeli will say that WW2 was one of the most decisive things to happen to human civilization, hence everything before that should be forgotten (if they are forgetting that current israel is their ancestral homeland, from where jew forced to migrant to europe).

Making people agree on a particular time is tough, and i agree , without forgetting past, we can not develope a peaceful future
 
Agree. But question arises, what given time ?

Israeli will say that WW2 was one of the most decisive things to happen to human civilization, hence everything before that should be forgotten (if they are forgetting that current israel is their ancestral homeland, from where jew forced to migrant to europe).

Making people agree on a particular time is tough, and i agree , without forgetting past, we can not develope a peaceful future
The current Israelis are nothing but a merchant guild made up of Arabs and Eastern Europeans—what history could they possibly have? The history of the Jews is simply that wherever they went, they got beaten up by everyone there. Yeah, it’s always someone else’s fault.