Indo China conflict on LAC

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Opening a new thread since a officious basta.d mod has banned me from the old one.
Me too. LOL
Why not rename it to ‘For Banned members only’ lol
OT : we should avoid getting into a Meltdown and discuss things without too much emotional outbursts.
Chinese Propaganda machinery is just too good for Indians. Right now they are on overdrive on internet. While IA’s response is meek at best both on ground and on propaganda front. Just how good are their videos are choreographed and edited can tell you that they are no less than modern equivalent of German SS propaganda.
 
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Our problem is that we think that ignoring the Chinese problem will make it go away.
The Chinese are in a hitlersque expansionist mode. Like the Islamic jihadists, they are brainwashed into thinking all their actions are justified by the might is right mantra.
That's why they bluster against the Americans but never face them openly.
We have to go from the defensive to the offensive , AFTER undertaking a massive rearming of our forces.
The time for just adequate defence is gone.
Rearm and requip on a massive scale.
Money should become secondary.
 
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Even signing a treaty with the US, like we had with USSR before 1971 , should be on the books.
Ideology can wait.
The Chinese literally piss their pants with the Americans.
Let the Americans build bases here and train our foot soldiers.
Frankly some of our soldiers look equipped from the 2nd ww.
 
Me too. LOL
Why not rename it to ‘For Banned members only’ lol
OT : we should avoid getting into a Meltdown and discuss things without too much emotional outbursts.
Chinese Propaganda machinery is just too good for Indians. Right now they are on overdrive on internet. While IA’s response is meek at best both on ground and on propaganda front. Just how good are their videos are choreographed and edited can tell you that they are no less than modern equivalent of German SS propaganda.
Changes on the ground are all that matter.
A han or Pakistani boy making fun on the net fades away in the face of reality like Bangladesh.
13 days to chop Pakistan into 2
That's the force build up we need.
Remember a half hearted defence or offensive capability convinces no one.
 
Our problem is that we think that ignoring the Chinese problem will make it go away.
The Chinese are in a hitlersque expansionist mode. Like the Islamic jihadists, they are brainwashed into thinking all their actions are justified by the might is right mantra.
That's why they bluster against the Americans but never face them openly.
We have to go from the defensive to the offensive , AFTER undertaking a massive rearming of our forces.
The time for just adequate defence is gone.
Rearm and requip on a massive scale.
Money should become secondary.
I think GOI is buying time rightfully. We are not in a position of full scale war right now thanks to our incompetent military bureaucracy and political system.
We must resist any expansion by Chinese and hold our positions by occupying vantage points.
Rapid military modernisation is needed before the inevitable full scale confrontation.
 
Changes on the ground are all that matter.
A han or Pakistani boy making fun on the net fades away in the face of reality like Bangladesh.
13 days to chop Pakistan into 2
That's the force build up we need.
Remember a half hearted defence or offensive capability convinces no one.
They are making fun precisely because we have stopped seceding our territories bit by bit as was the norm some years earlier. We used to keep it under wraps in hopes of some kind of negotiated settlement of LAC.
Now Chinese are furious and want to humiliate IA and India to cave down. That’s why they are releasing the parts of the same video on weekly basis.
Chinese only appreciate Brute Power and that’s why they respect Russia and US. They know they India is weak and therefore hate us. And this hate is not something new but historical.
 
Our problem is that we think that ignoring the Chinese problem will make it go away.
The Chinese are in a hitlersque expansionist mode. Like the Islamic jihadists, they are brainwashed into thinking all their actions are justified by the might is right mantra.
That's why they bluster against the Americans but never face them openly.
We have to go from the defensive to the offensive , AFTER undertaking a massive rearming of our forces.
The time for just adequate defence is gone.
Rearm and requip on a massive scale.
Money should become secondary.

And then what .?
Bankrupt?
This is reality of LAC.
From 47 there is no clear settlement about the border .
We are saying some of their areas is ours and they are saying vice versa .
As of now they have clear advantage in military field.
But unlike before , we have massive infra push on the border and there is credible military build up to back that also.
Salami slicing wont work anymore .And they are clever enough to not attack us. They wont attack us .
They want us to attack them some thing that we never will do.They knows they cant repeat 1962 also..
So they will do everykind of tricks to unleash their military capability on us but dont want to see as an aggressor.

Our response should be wrt our choice.
We dont impulsive action on border
 
They are making fun precisely because we have stopped seceding our territories bit by bit as was the norm some years earlier. We used to keep it under wraps in hopes of some kind of negotiated settlement of LAC.
Now Chinese are furious and want to humiliate IA and India to cave down. That’s why they are releasing the parts of the same video on weekly basis.
Chinese only appreciate Brute Power and that’s why they respect Russia and US. They know they India is weak and therefore hate us. And this hate is not something new but historical.

No.
That is not the reason for their hate.
We can assume from the literary works of some Chinese communist thinkers that they value traditional family values ,ethics etc .
One of their advisor ,current chief advisor of Xi a key member of their Polit Bureau Mr Hoon is anti US much not because of their military power but because they lacks ethics.

When it comes to India , not matter whatever the condition be it rich or poor we wont lose our millenia old cultural values even in our attirewe can see that.
And leaders of the India commands more respect and influence in the worldthan Chinese.
Chou En Lai hates Nehru because at international level they were always a second fiddle.
But they cant attack us that easily also..And unlike them we didnt forgot our roots, like one of their ambassodor said , we were always dominates them because of iur superior civilizational advantage .
Now they are frustrates because we also converting to hard power.
 
No.
That is not the reason for their hate.
We can assume from the literary works of some Chinese communist thinkers that they value traditional family values ,ethics etc .
One of their advisor ,current chief advisor of Xi a key member of their Polit Bureau Mr Hoon is anti US much not because of their military power but because they lacks ethics.

When it comes to India , not matter whatever the condition be it rich or poor we wont lose our millenia old cultural values even in our attirewe can see that.
And leaders of the India commands more respect and influence in the worldthan Chinese.
Chou En Lai hates Nehru because at international level they were always a second fiddle.
But they cant attack us that easily also..And unlike them we didnt forgot our roots, like one of their ambassodor said , we were always dominates them because of iur superior civilizational advantage .
Now they are frustrates because we also converting to hard power.
Delusional babbling fool. Must be a commie.
They dont hate us, they are hard nosed pragmatists. They attack us because they can. Because they are stronger and have no moral compunctions about being judged.
If we become much stronger, they can have all sorts of complicated feelings about us, we wont care , and their salami slicing will end.
But for that we have to be demonstrably stronger.
Buying a few jets or a couple of s400 or hurriedly raising a 10k men mountain brigade is not going to leave a impression.
We have to either have a dominating airforce, like for every plane of theirs , we have double the planes.
Triple the artillery pieces on the eastern front. Not diverting from the west.
Force them to divert equipment from the so called south China sea.
It's not a easy transfer.
We take a few knee jerk actions but it does not look coordinated towards a dominating position.
And we have a god knows why tendency to bunch our troops every where. More like police facing a mob.
And why have we stepped of the economic sanctions of their companies ?
Raid their companies here. Make up reasons to harass them. Make their operations uneconomical.
Look for alternate suppliers.

And why are we not targeting their interests online , like through social media ? Not only here in India . All over the world.
As long as you dont post anything offensive or threatening, twitter doesn't care .
Messages like free tibet or taiwan related stuff. It really bugs them .
Let the bat eaters have a few uncomfortable reads.
Just posting on these forums is useless.

Let's fight the fight in our small ways.
 
Let the Americans build bases here and train our foot soldiers.
Frankly some of our soldiers look equipped from the 2nd ww.

Our troops can actually train them. We kill our tangos in close combat, they kill theirs using indirect fire or air power.

Equipment depends on the budget, not training.
 
13 days to chop Pakistan into 2
That's the force build up we need.
Remember a half hearted defence or offensive capability convinces no one.

We already have such a force, we only lack the will. But then nobody wants a hole where Delhi or Mumbai once existed.

The alternative is to have Pakistan blacklisted. The failing PKR will kill their oil consumption and push the economy into a downward spiral. That's what we need first.
 
We already have such a force, we only lack the will. But then nobody wants a hole where Delhi or Mumbai once existed.

The alternative is to have Pakistan blacklisted. The failing PKR will kill their oil consumption and push the economy into a downward spiral. That's what we need first.
Let's focus on the hans. The *censored* are a irritant, not a threat.
We have ignored the 3500 km border for too long. They have been slicing away.
The choices are limited or non existent. I would have liked to concentrate our resources on development, but do we want a repeat of 1962 ?
The Chinese are probably out to hamper our development with this enforced diversion of our resources. They have calculated that with a superior army , they can handle a flare up.
 
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