Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

On 5th Sep, Shri S S Prasad, Chief General Manager, AVNL, Medak unit accompanied by senior officers visited DRDL and had a fruitful discussions with Shri Srinivas Murthy, Director/DRDL on advancements and progress of NAMIS(Tr) project.

On 5th Sep, Shri S S Prasad, Chief General Manager, AVNL, Medak unit accompanied by senior officers visited BDL, Kanchanbagh and had a healthy discussion with Shri Ravi, ED/BDL on NAMIS(Tr) project.

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Good to see R-77 finally getting slotted for replacement by the Astra family (in due course) as our bread and butter BVRAAM. The MICA and METEOR are too expensive to be used liberally and the IAF probably has strict rules of engagement.

During Balakot, IAF pilots didn't fire until they had positive lock on enemy targets while the Pakistanis pretty much sprayed AMRAAMs into thin air so to speak. Local missiles and munitions will make the biggest difference to the IAFs warfighting potential imo.
 
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Quite promising I would say, for the initial batches these are good nos. cc @Ashwin @Gautam @Rajput Lion @Fatalis

pic is from ex DRDO director presentation recently.
Btw Brahmos being extended to 800km is complete, which obviously we know well now. The 1500km rumour was not really feasible as I previously said a few times.

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Since our BrahMos is derived from P-800 Oniks, 800kms range was always going to be achieved. Maybe, we could better it upto 1000kms. Beyond that a new design will be needed.

PS: If surface launched BrahMos now has 800kms range then just imagine what range BrahMos-A will achieve when MKI releases it at a high altitude and Mach 0.9 speed;)
 
The baseline R-77 was built purely for export. The RuAF eventually bought the improved R-77-1 version.

Imo, the sooner we get the Astra family into service the better. The R-series of AAMs needs to be replaced in wholesale mode ( and we have a huge inventory of them).

Probably turn them into a SAMAR-II SHORAD system, similar to the US NASAMS.

Needs a better box launcher too. Sticking two pylons to the back of a truck and giving it a new name doesn't cut it, imo. Looks so shabby.

Post-Balakot, I was surprised the IAF bought more R-27s and R-77s, despite facing reliability issues during Vayu Shakti exercises. some years ago.
 
The baseline R-77 was built purely for export. The RuAF eventually bought the improved R-77-1 version.

Imo, the sooner we get the Astra family into service the better. The R-series of AAMs needs to be replaced in wholesale mode ( and we have a huge inventory of them).

Probably turn them into a SAMAR-II SHORAD system, similar to the US NASAMS.

Needs a better box launcher too. Sticking two pylons to the back of a truck and giving it a new name doesn't cut it, imo. Looks so shabby.

Post-Balakot, I was surprised the IAF bought more R-27s and R-77s, despite facing reliability issues during Vayu Shakti exercises. some years ago.
R-27 series still has very good kinematics. The ET variant coupled with MKI's OLS-30M is a silent killer. Earlier we bought R-27s from Ukraine but post Balakot we bought improved version of both R-27s and R-77(-1) from Russia. As per some rumours, we might have bought few R-37Ms as well!

Anyways, now that our Astra program has started to bear fruits, IAF's dependence on foreign suppliers for BVRAAMs is about to end very soon. Soon there will be "air dominance" in full desi style with desi weapons;)
 
Against modern countermeasures, spoofing the IR seeker of the R-27 series is probably going to be easier than say, a modern IIR-seeker equipped Astra (hypothetical). Russia won't let us tinker with the seeker of the R-27s. Also, the R-27 is rather bulkier than modern gen missiles.

Though small, the IAF's orders for the Astra-1 indicate increasing confidence in local systems.

We should re-purpose the older R-27s to the SAM role for last-ditch base air defence against drone swarms and CMs, imo.

We have huge stocks to run through. A proper box launcher equipped SAMAR-II (with integral EO+ networking) should give us a decent gap-filler SHORAD.

The newer R-27s are probably good for the foreseeable future.
 
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