Point is what will they do with the engine, and if there is a clause that engine will only be delivered when Mk2 prototype is ready.
India-US GE414 engine production partnership deal
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Point is what will they do with the engine, and if there is a clause that engine will only be delivered when Mk2 prototype is ready.
They already have engines for prototypes.
Only 8 are there which were delivered. 91 still to come.
Haven't got any past three years.
Those will be delivered by US production line? The expected order for mk2 is 120, 8 will be used for prototypes so we will get 91 out of the 120 engines from the US. Why are we even getting the engine production line then? AMCA isn't coming anytime sooner than 2035.Only 8 are there which were delivered. 91 still to come.
Haven't got any past three years.
Error : 404.Only 8 are there which were delivered. 91 still to come.
Haven't got any past three years.
Note to you : You're confusing the 414 with the 404.
Why don't you post at 3 am?! There's much more clarity in your even otherwise muddled thoughts at that hour .
Eight F414 engines have been delivered as part of an ongoing development program for LCA Mk2.
GE Aerospace signs MOU with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited to produce fighter jet engines for Indian Air Force | GE Aerospace News
GE Aerospace’s F414 engines would be co-produced in India to power the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Mk2WASHINGTON, D.C. – June 22, 2023 – GE (NYSE: GE) – GE Aerospace announced
No deliveries past 3 years.
The prototype is not ready hence no deliveries may be.
True, I think we'll be producing the remaining engines or atleast some share of it along with the AMCA F 414 orders. I expect some of the initial engines for tejas mk2 production to come from US production line if the mk2 production starts from 2029 that is.Eight F414 engines have been delivered as part of an ongoing development program for LCA Mk2.
GE Aerospace signs MOU with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited to produce fighter jet engines for Indian Air Force | GE Aerospace News
GE Aerospace’s F414 engines would be co-produced in India to power the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Mk2WASHINGTON, D.C. – June 22, 2023 – GE (NYSE: GE) – GE Aerospace announcedwww.geaerospace.com
No deliveries past 3 years.
The prototype is not ready hence no deliveries may be.
8 have come. Rest won't. But the issue is Mk2 is delayed. Nothing is happening before 2035.
Yes. 8 would have been delivered for the prototypes . Did we sign an agreement for F-414? What do you think is being negotiated then between HAL & GE?Eight F414 engines have been delivered as part of an ongoing development program for LCA Mk2.
GE Aerospace signs MOU with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited to produce fighter jet engines for Indian Air Force | GE Aerospace News
GE Aerospace’s F414 engines would be co-produced in India to power the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Mk2WASHINGTON, D.C. – June 22, 2023 – GE (NYSE: GE) – GE Aerospace announced
No deliveries past 3 years.
The prototype is not ready hence no deliveries may be.
Let's see I am still hopeful.
We ordered the engines but the plan seems to be that the rest of the engines will be from the Indian production line that is being negotiated. The ToT part is complete, commercial negotiation have started between GE and HAL, for now the timeline is March.
Above tweet means deal is done or only small prerequisite before final signature?
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Its from Annual report, final agreement is pending.
looks like the deal got a bit delayed by the iran war, they were supposed to be here in march but whatever.
Big boost to IAF: GE Aerospace, HAL seal technical pact on jet engines
GE promises twenty F404 engines by year-end; HAL to receive 6th engine by month end
New Delhi: India and the US achieved a key breakthrough on coproduction of fighter jet engines, with GE Aerospace and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd reaching an agreement on technical matters. This is likely to be followed by the signing of a final contract later this year, in what would be a major boost to the Indian Air Force's attempts to reverse its depleting fighter squadron strength and grow the fleet, critical for a two-front war with China and Pakistan.
The US aerospace company also announced the signing of a contract with IAF for setting up a depot facility for F404 engines that currently powers the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), seen as a major future backbone of the air force.
Rita Flaherty, vice president, sales and business development for defence and systems at GE Aerospace, told ET that the "hardest part" of technical discussions, which include a complex and deep transfer of technology for the more-advanced F414 engines to India, have recently been concluded.
"GE Aerospace is pleased to announce significant progress regarding F414 coproduction today, having reached agreement on technical matters related to the work," she said. "This agreement marks a significant step forward in strengthening economic growth and advancing national security interests in both India and the US and further expands the 40-year partnership between GE Aerospace and HAL," said Flaherty, who was visiting India for the stakeholder discussions.
Terming it as a "landmark agreement", she said this would result in transfer of manufacturing technology of the powerful engine, supporting India's mission of moving towards self-reliance. Flaherty said GE is transferring manufacturing technology to India and owns about 80% of the engine's intellectual property rights. The balance is held by other US suppliers.
"These are extraordinarily capable machines, but they're also complex," she said. "We can count on one hand all the companies in the world that can do this kind of capability, and now we are bringing this to India, so India can do it for themselves."
GE and HAL will now move to the next phase of holding commercial discussions. These are expected to take some time as global prices for components have risen significantly in the past months. The final signing of the contract is expected this financial year, followed by HAL setting up a manufacturing facility in India with GE's assistance. The plan is to have the facility up and running within two years of contract signing.
As part of the deal, 99 engines will be manufactured in India, powering the Mk2 variant of LCA. IAF has projected a demand for 120-130 Tejas Mk2 fighters, which, if accepted by the government, is likely to swell the order size beyond 99 engines. In addition to LCA, the first two squadrons of the futuristic Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) are also likely to be powered by the same engine.
Flaherty underlined that GE is interested in continuing discussions with India for developing higher thrust engines of the 120kN class for next generation fighter jets
On F404 engines for LCA Mk1a, which have faced significant delays, Flaherty said the sixth engine has arrived in India and that GE is focused on timely deliveries, also considering that there is no compromise on safety and quality standards. On the new depot facility for F404, she said it would be owned, operated, and maintained by IAF, with GE providing technical inputs, training, support staff and ensuring supply of necessary spares and specialised equipment.