India - United States Relations
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68 ain't happening but I do think the IA will order more Apache to equip its new aviation brigades.
The cost will be a major factor, though. The 6 birds that just got delivered cost us over $700m.
The Americans are playing hardball on pricing in other deals too. The cost of the 6 P-8Is for the IN has increased substantially.
What you expect from a serial lier, the guy doesn't have any integrity,
Nor does chamchas who are working under him,
Nor does chamchas who are working under him,
If I do recall, the Govt has authorised procurement of 39 Apaches.
Out of these, 22 Apaches are in service with the IAF and 6 with the IA, so that leaves us with 11 Apaches to be procured which would most likely be bought by IA.
He talks from his a** all the time. But what he tried to imply should get the alarm bells ringing in Delhi - he controls what gets delivered and when (if at all). Linking so many high profile projects to US tech is plain stupidity and hopefully some sane people take the final call.
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He'd made exceptions for India in his 1st term like granting approval for MQ-9Bs to be sold in armed configuration, for example.
Judging from the number of people he'd fired from his old cabinet, you could tell there were still some sensible people in the WH back then.
But now he's surrounded by hand-picked MAGA yes men that, like Trump, don't have a seasoned world view.
I'd say he'll do nothing to jeopardize defense sales to India, given his Republican backers include big names in the US defense industry. This may be a carrot and stick approach to squeeze the Russians and Europeans out of the Indian defence market.
He knows that invoking CAATSA will be the last straw for US-India defence ties. They have just signed a 10 yr strategic partnership with us.
Slowing down deliveries of contracted equipment like F404 gives him 'plausible deniability'. It can always be blamed on supply chain issues and prioritization of US domestic/allied customers.
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Our projects are way too important to left at the mercy of the orange orangutan
. I sincerely hope we decouple from US wrt engines for Amca and Tejas MK-2.
So this Takla clown
is basically suggesting to bend over backwards.Chellaney's credibility is digging his own grave unless it's not already 6ft under.
So this Takla clown
Chellaney's credibility is digging his own grave unless it's not already 6ft under.
These "analysts" have lost it altogether. They don't do analysis anymore. They come to conclusion based on personal bias and then frame their analysis around it. And Indians take anything in oxford English as Gospel almost.
Kinda sickening.
And no surprise that the brown sepoys are celebrating and sharing their masters gospel around .
I said back then during foreign policy debate too.. some in India seems to think that only GOI is at fault, and only good relationship even at cost of self is good FP. Trump nd his cabinet are not statesman, neither a saint of Truth. Problem is Fools in India lapping up their side of narrative, just as they did in op sindoor with pak narrative.
THsts when you cross being anti-govt to anti-india.
Anti-govt is fine as long as it stays within the border. But from lop at top and brown sepoys at all stages, they can't differentiate between BJP govt and GOI VS US GOVT ETC. siding against India. This puts the state in a bind. Because they essentially need to put these people in the adversary bracket of Info-warfare setup. Yet, they are own citizens and needs fine balancing of narrative, soft power, hard power use.
Acc to me.. Indian state is on edge of just waiting for that one " Black Swan Event" to go from soft measure policy to hard measure policy to take space back from 0.5. via SM regulations, Law etc. Right now it's limited to extreme cases. Maybe they will take a leaf out of previous administrations and their acts.
Chinese actions, pak&Bang, US actions are creating a ground for Indian state to do so.
But that is, if a pro-india govt remains strong when time comes. A western stooge, will not be able to handle the geopolitics.
I said back then during foreign policy debate too.. some in India seems to think that only GOI is at fault, and only good relationship even at cost of self is good FP. Trump nd his cabinet are not statesman, neither a saint of Truth. Problem is Fools in India lapping up their side of narrative, just as they did in op sindoor with pak narrative.
THsts when you cross being anti-govt to anti-india.
Anti-govt is fine as long as it stays within the border. But from lop at top and brown sepoys at all stages, they can't differentiate between BJP govt and GOI VS US GOVT ETC. siding against India. This puts the state in a bind. Because they essentially need to put these people in the adversary bracket of Info-warfare setup. Yet, they are own citizens and needs fine balancing of narrative, soft power, hard power use.
Acc to me.. Indian state is on edge of just waiting for that one " Black Swan Event" to go from soft measure policy to hard measure policy to take space back from 0.5. via SM regulations, Law etc. Right now it's limited to extreme cases. Maybe they will take a leaf out of previous administrations and their acts.
Chinese actions, pak&Bang, US actions are creating a ground for Indian state to do so.
But that is, if a pro-india govt remains strong when time comes. A western stooge, will not be able to handle the geopolitics.
In diplomacy,some time we have to do many things which we don't want to do.So this Takla clown
Chellaney's credibility is digging his own grave unless it's not already 6ft under.
Now instead of making call to end tariff war, we ended up having 50% tatiff with an option of 500%, all these and we are now lifting ban we enforced over Chinese who had captured our land.
The situation is to wait n watch. We don't have any cards to play. Trump is just having a tantrum. All real decisions are made by the Pentagon and the State department. Trump is just a very entertaining clown.
It's Marco Rubio who is running the show. Trump's word has no value.
The Chinese and Americans are hand in hand.
Wasn't hydra the one criticising Modi's visit to China for SCO. Now see the tune change. Why? Idiot? No. That's deliberate.
I think one thing you should insert deep in your thick skull, we are not an American vassal and never will be. And no matter how much you or other US dalals want us to bend for your favourite country, we are not going to. It is one thing to give favours to US because we are not as strong or for return favours, but if US wants a trade deal with us, it will be on politically equal terms like two sovereigns, though economic exchange may not be equal. Otherwise, we are absolutely fine with the price we pay for maintaining our independence. Its not like US' European and Asian vassals are getting a lot of favours from Trump by bending backward anyway.
Overall our Commerce Minister has done decent jobs with trade deals. I am sure if the deal with US was not signed, it was more likely because of absurd terms forced by the US or Trump wanting Modi to butter his a*s publicly or grove before him. We have survived much more tougher times when we had no support in Western world, we will again survive this time too.