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Chinese PLA encroaching on Indian territory near Taksing, claims group | The Arunachal Times

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New claims of encroachment by the PLA. I couldn't find the four spots on google maps, which are mentioned in the article . But Taksing is 2.5 km from the border.
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Apparently, most of those areas were already taken by the PLA during the 1962 war, and they have remained under PLA control for decades. However, there is an arrangement between both sides that allows locals to travel to those sites. Perhaps the PLA is now restricting Arunachalis from traveling to those areas. For example, the Asaphila area is spread across both sides of the LAC (more of it is on the chinese side than our side).

You can geolocate the Asaphila area, by the way. However, the publicly available satellite images are about a year old, and I did not notice anything suspicious in them.
 
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Photon Vish said:
To fight and WON a modern war. You need 3 main things:
1) A well organised ,integrated a d disciplined soldiers and officers
2) modern equipment and industry to support it during and before war
3) a great militry strategist and militry leader

2nd point, gujrati(actually gujrati baniyas and jains) helps in that.

And as you are asking about nunber of soldiers from Gujarat and Kerala then let me tell you, it is(and business which i talked earlier) due to caste and culture.

Westerns indians(punjab, haryana, himanchal) were almost 90% of officers in 1947 while their population was less than 10%.

Its because majority of them were of kshatriya caste(jaat, rajput, khatri).

Infact the mallu who are in militry are from similar kshatriya caste. Its because caste became culture, caste is bigger culturer things than region or state.

How many non-kshatriya caste people are in militry from Kerla ? As a percentage, it wont be much different from Gujrat

And the caste culture is the reason why caste based reservation failed, because it just gave a short cut to many unprivileged caste people.

Instead if caste based culture upgradation has been implemented which needed industries as it employee large number of people(unlinke IT) at middle income level then caste issue, atleast at economic level would have been very less.
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I don't think that any casteism exist with military.
Indian military is one of the most disciplined militaries in the world. The were incidents (infact multiple ) military used to wait 16 to 24 hours for the orders from Delhi to fire back at pakistanis. They even stolled op sindoor when Delhi gave them orders when we had clear advantage over Pakistanis.
kerala Kshathriya cast is "Varma" ( not to confuse with the cast Verma ), i never saw any mallu soldier or officer from that cast.

Lastly, Gujjus are money oriented people (not a bad thing though ) they won't ptefer india going for war with Pakistan or china at the expense of ecenomy.
 
Photon Vish said:
Why be racist toward gujjus ??

You are mallu, right ? Previous kerla cm pinarai vijayan is very big fan of Xi.

I have seen many posters on colleges and school events in kerala where people are thanking hamas(yeah hamas who rapes and kill people, inafct they even killed many indians, one was even a mallu nurse working in israel around 2020)

Modi hugging Xi is because of his socialist mentality.

Modi is Congress of 2000s + Temples( not hindus or hinduta but just temple).

Reality is that. Its socialist and communist who is responsible for under development of this country.

If we had a capitalist, market oriented PM with full majority then we would have been much better(although still we first need a PM who solves the religious and caste issue first, at any cost)
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Some folks in AP claim to not feel safe...

PLA denying Indian forces access to key patrolling points in Taksing: PPA

ITANAGAR, 10 Aug: A fact-finding committee (FFC) deputed by the People's Party of Arunachal (PPA) has reported that China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) troops have effectively denied Indian forces access to key patrolling points in the Taksing area of Upper Subansiri district and are steadily expanding control over traditional Indian grazing and hunting grounds along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

The four-member committee, headed by former minister and PPA chief adviser Kahfa Bengia, visited Taksing on 10 July. Other members were Kaling Jerang (vice president), Sorang Kiokam (secretary) and Narah Jimmy (secretary). The team held detailed interactions with local leaders, elders and intellectuals from Taksing, Maza and Galemo, as well as with senior defence personnel and jawans stationed in the area.

One of the most serious findings concerns Shera 5 Point, a designated Indian patrolling point. According to local accounts shared with the committee, Indian and Chinese troops had a physical confrontation at the site in 2023.

The Indian forces subsequently withdrew and have not returned. PLA troops later dismantled the remaining Indian markers and have since blocked Indian patrols from accessing the point.

The FFC described this as a clear illustration of how incremental Chinese intrusions are being consolidated on the ground.

The PPA team also reported that Nanga Pahar, traditionally used by the Nah and Mara communities for hunting and yak rearing, has been declared a strictly prohibited zone for local residents.

"This restriction," the committee noted, "has given the PLA greater freedom to push forward. The nature of the intrusions is well calculated, gradual and persistent, following a familiar pattern seen over several years," it stated.

The team identified major operational gaps and vulnerabilities in the area, including that the Indian Army's patrolling is largely confined to the April-October window. The harsh winter weather and heavy snowfall lead to suspension of regular patrolling for the remaining months, whereas the PLA activity continues year-round.

It also observed that the porters, who normally ferry supplies for Indian troops, are not engaged during the winter months, "which indicates clear low presence of Indian troops."

As a counter measures, the FFC also pressed for "acceleration of the ongoing BRO road from Nacho to Taksing on a war footing." It also urged the government to prioritise the proposed 68-km BRO road from Galemo to Pokorla.

It demanded that the government expedite the Taksing-Pokorla road via Yaja and Huri under a strict time-bound schedule and construct a helipad at Sipi 2 (Rest Point) and establish permanent Army base camps at Sipi 4 and Sipi 6.

The FFC also recommended providing reliable power supply (instead of diesel generators) and functional telephone/network connectivity in forward locations such as Maza and Galemo. Both jawans and local residents flagged poor power and communication links as major demotivating factors, it said.
 
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China's Xi likely to visit India with big delegation for first time in seven years​

By Saurabh Sharma and Aftab Ahmed
August 24, 20265:29 AM PDT Updated 17 hours ago


Chinese President Xi and India Prime Minister Modi meet in Kazan

Chinese President Xi Jinping and India Prime Minister Narendra Modi meet on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Kazan, Russia October 23, 2024. China Daily via REUTERS​

NEW DELHI, Aug 24 (Reuters) - Chinese President Xi Jinping is likely to attend next month's BRICS summit in New Delhi with a ‌large delegation, three sources said, in what would be his first visit in seven years and a fresh sign of a thaw between the rivals.

India is hosting the September 12 to 13 summit, where Xi's presence would be watched less for the BRICS agenda than for what it signals about Beijing and New Delhi's efforts to stabilise relations after deadly border clashes in 2020.


"Chinese officials are busy finalising hotels and security protocols," one of the ⁠Indian sources with direct knowledge told Reuters.
Last year, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited China for the first time in seven years, but the relationship has only improved gradually. More recently, a fresh border-related dispute triggered sharp diplomatic exchanges between the two sides.

Two other Indian sources said Xi was likely to be accompanied by a delegation of about 400 officials, compared with fewer than 200 officials the last time in 2019.

Officials from both countries are expected to use the summit to explore ways to expand engagement while managing long-standing differences over the border and regional security issues, the sources added.

Xi's final travel plans and agenda for any potential bilateral between India and China are yet to be finalised, the sources said.
The Chinese foreign ‌ministry ⁠said, "China attaches great importance to and actively participates in BRICS cooperation, and supports India, the current chair, in successfully hosting this year's BRICS summit."

"We currently have no information available to provide" about Xi's visit, it said. Xi missed the last BRICS summit in 2025 in Brazil.
India's foreign ministry did not comment.

INDIA-CHINA BORDER ISSUE​

The world's two most populous nations, both nuclear powers, share a roughly 3,800-km (2,400-mile), largely ⁠undemarcated and disputed border in the Himalayas.

Decades of relative peace along the border were shattered by 2020 clashes where 20 Indian and four Chinese soldiers were killed. The incident led to a four-year military standoff before reaching a disengagement pact in October 2024.

But on August ⁠12, India said peace along the border was critical to ties after reports that Indian and Chinese army patrols came face-to-face in late July near a remote border.

India's National Security Advisor Ajit Doval on Monday started his visit to Beijing to ⁠meet Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi to hold talks on the boundary issue.

While India and China remain competitors, U.S. President Donald Trump's trade policies have created one area of convergence, making Xi's attendance a signal that neither side wants external pressure to undermine BRICS.

($1 = 95.7450 Indian rupees)

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Source: Reuters
Additional reporting by Antoni Slodkowski and Liz Lee in Beijing
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
 
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