India - Pakistan War of 1971

Arsalan123

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If there wasn't a 1965, there wouldn't be a 1971. Remember that. Moreover, if you think taking one Wing Co Abhinanandan as a PoW somehow equates to the 91,000 PoWs India took in Bangladesh who incidentally were involved in laying train tracks for 2 years in India as opposed to the less than 48 hours you took to release him after jamai treatment , then Congratulations.

Coming back to the pilot you took prisoner during the Kargil war, there was one more pilot whom you also killed in your custody mutilating his corpse after torturing him to death. Pakistanis talking of shame having lost every single war it fought is very rich indeed. Even the lowly ANA is slapping you on your western border not to mention the Iranians who keep intruding into Balochistan to undertake their operations every now & then.You guys know only how to surrender or flee like the episode I've described above.

IAF trains vigorously. Hence the accident rates are high. Do have a look at the man hours an F-16 has after its MLU and how many hours of flying PAF does on it annually to get a clue. While you're on it, consider the JF-17 as well for similar parameters.

he wasn't killed in custody.why are you lying? he died on the spot.you are sending planes years after years and we keep repeating the same philosophy.we aren't here to arrest your pilots.and by the way,we showed you our jf-17s.iaf didn't challenged paf during balakot but on 27,paf challenged iaf.there is a big difference there.you should open your eyes.this is not 71.you won 71.cheers but what about future? do you think iaf can ruin paf? we challenged your jets dude.we were there to hit iaf and not to target your army men in barracks.big difference.even some indian members immediately asked for the response,they were angry.now you are saying that 71 was a big achievement.yes it was but what about future?
 

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he wasn't killed in custody.why are you lying? he died on the spot.you are sending planes years after years and we keep repeating the same philosophy.we aren't here to arrest your pilots.and by the way,we showed you our jf-17s.iaf didn't challenged paf during balakot but on 27,paf challenged iaf.there is a big difference there.you should open your eyes.this is not 71.you won 71.cheers but what about future? do you think iaf can ruin paf? we challenged your jets dude.we were there to hit iaf and not to target your army men in barracks.big difference.even some indian members immediately asked for the response,they were angry.now you are saying that 71 was a big achievement.yes it was but what about future?
Pakistan Army punctured eyes, cut off genitals of Captain Saurabh Kalia and his soldiers but Centre refuses to act
And your army will never tell you the payback they received a few years later.
 

Paro

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Everyone was avenged. Operation Ginger
Nope. In 2000 itself. you can check UNMOGIP page for more complaints by PA
" On the night of January 21-22, 2000, in a raid authorised by then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and conducted by India’s 9 SF (Para), seven PA soldiers were captured in a raid on a post in the Nadala enclave, across the Kishanganga (Neelam) River. The seven soldiers, wounded in fire, were tied up and dragged across a ravine running across the LoC. The bodies were returned, according to Pakistan’s complaint to UNMOGIP, bearing signs of brutal torture. "
COMPENDIUM OF INDIAN ARMY'S CROSS-LOC ‘JAWAABI KARAVAEE’ (RETALIATORY ACTION) RAIDS SINCE 1998 - airsoc.com
 

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Nope. In 2000 itself. you can check UNMOGIP page for more complaints by PA
" On the night of January 21-22, 2000, in a raid authorised by then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and conducted by India’s 9 SF (Para), seven PA soldiers were captured in a raid on a post in the Nadala enclave, across the Kishanganga (Neelam) River. The seven soldiers, wounded in fire, were tied up and dragged across a ravine running across the LoC. The bodies were returned, according to Pakistan’s complaint to UNMOGIP, bearing signs of brutal torture. "
COMPENDIUM OF INDIAN ARMY'S CROSS-LOC ‘JAWAABI KARAVAEE’ (RETALIATORY ACTION) RAIDS SINCE 1998 - airsoc.com
We should've done it to their seniors. Not the juniors holding posts at the borders.
 
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vstol Jockey

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We gave them payback??
Yes we tracked the officers and JCOs responsible and whn they were posted close to LOC, we sent in our SF and killed them all mercilessly. We even beheaded them and broght their heads as trophies. The revenge was very brutal. Not even one PA soldier was left alive in those raids. Botht hose officers were killed who did that to Capt Kalia.
 

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The day India uprooted 93,000 trees.
 
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there is a big difference there.you should open your eyes.this is not 71.you won 71.cheers but what about future? do you think iaf can ruin paf? we challenged your jets dude.we were there to hit iaf and not to target your army men in barracks.big difference.even some indian members immediately asked for the response,they were angry.now you are saying that 71 was a big achievement.yes it was but what about future?
Yeah it's not 1971, it's 2019 and in a few days it'll be 2020. In 1971 you had much superior American and western weapons and US, NATO support even then 93000 eunuchs surrendered. Now we have bigger economy, better weapons, and US support along with Russian support. So it will be a bigger disaster for Pakistan. IAF will not only ruin PAF but also entire Pakistan as a nation on the whole. In future the gap will only widen with Rafales, LCA, AMCA etc.... Enjoy and cheers..☺☺
 

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India has a rich history of naval warfare. In fact, Indian ships have made their presence felt since the time of Rajendra Chola’s 10th-century naval expedition to Southeast Asia and Maratha Admiral Kanhoji Angre’s 18th-century naval battles against the British, the Dutch and the Portuguese.

This tradition of remarkable military exploits has continued even post-independence, with the Indian Navy playing a key role in at least four major military operations after 1947. There are several stories and anecdotes in the annals of the Indian Navy that illustrate why it has earned the reputation of a force to be reckoned with.

But the most celebrated among them is the story of the audacious naval operation commemorated by India’s Navy Day, Operation Trident.

Here’s the fascinating story of the mission that proved to be a turning point in the 1971 Indo-Pak war.

In 1968, war clouds were already gathering on the horizon when the Indian Navy decided to acquire the Osa-I missile boats from the Soviet Union. Osa translates to ‘wasp’ in Russian and these boats did have a powerful sting thanks to their deadly ship-to-ship Styx missiles (that could blow the biggest enemy cruisers out of the water) and Range-out homing radars (that could out-range any naval radar of that era).

Thus, the fast-moving and stealthy missile boats could look deep and strike deep. However, they had one crucial downside — designed primarily for coastal defence, they had a short range. Nonetheless, Indian Navy acquired eight Osa-Is, established its Missile Boats Squadron, and flew crew members to Russia for eight-month-long raining in the freezing Siberian winter.

In early 1971, the boats were finally shipped to India. Since there were no heavy cranes in Mumbai, the boats were offloaded in Kolkata and towed along the coast to Mumbai.

This was the genesis of a brilliant idea in the minds of India’s naval commanders that would go on to play a pivotal role in Operation Trident — if these boats could be towed from Kolkata to Mumbai, couldn’t their short range feature be overcome by towing them from Mumbai to Karachi?

This audacious strategy would soon come to fruition. As dusk fell on December 3, 1971, at 5.45 PM, the Pakistan Air Force attacked six Indian airfields. The same night, IAF Canberra aircrafts struck Pakistani airfields as ground battles immediately commenced in nearly every sector.

The Indo-Pak War of 1971 had begun and it was time for Indian Navy’s “Killer Squadron” to join the battle.

On the night of December 3, a group of Osa-I missile boats — INS Nipat, INS Nirghat and INS Veer (individually under the commands of Lt. Cdrs. BN Kavina, IJ Sharma and OP Mehta and as a squadron under Cdr. BB Yadav) set sail from Mumbai harbour. The next day, on December 4, two Petya class Frigates — the INS Katchall (under Cdr. KN Zadu) and INS Kiltan (under Commander. G Rao) rendezvoused with the missile boats to form the Trident team.

Sailing westward and then northwards, the Osa-Is were successfully towed to reach the Karachi harbour (the stronghold of the Pakistani Navy) by night. From there, the “wasps” proceeded in an arrowhead formation, changing course frequently with radar inputs from INS Kiltan to avoid enemy detection.

Interestingly, the ship crews communicated in Russian, making the transmissions between the attacking vessels difficult to intercept for enemy ears!

At 2243 hours, the Rangout radar on INS Nirghat picked up a big target — PNS Khaiber, a destroyer of Pak Navy. This was soon followed by the detection of two more targets, PNS Shah Jehan and merchant vessel Venus Challenger (carrying ammunition for the Pakistani Army).

Without any delay, the missile boat squadron homed onto the targets with devastating precision and launched their Styx missiles in quick succession.

Never realising what had hit their ships, the baffled Pakistani Navy assumed it was aircraft fire (IAF aircrafts had been strafing Pakistan’s Kemari oil tanks on the same day in an independent operation) and tried in vain to engage the Styx missiles with their anti-craft guns.

In fact, PNS Khyber even transmitted a mayday signal saying it had been hit by enemy aircraft before it broke into two and sank.

By this time, the Indian squadron had fixed their sight on the fuel storage facilities on the shore.

Stretched to their endurance limits and virtually unprotected against air strikes, the three small missile boats launched their final missiles (setting the whole harbour complex on fire) before turning around and returning full speed to Bombay.

Interestingly, while the Indian ships were retreating, the prevailing confusion led to the Pakistan Air Force scoring a self-goal by hitting its own frigate ship, PNS Zulfiqar (that it assumed to be an enemy boat)!

On December 7, 1971, the Killer Squadron sailed into Bombay to a heroes’ welcome — in 90 minutes, it had fired six missiles, sunk three front-line enemy vessels and destroyed the oil storage facility at the Karachi harbour, without a single Indian casualty.

Not content to rest on the laurels coming their way after the resounding success of Operation Trident, the Indian Navy repeated the feat just four days later in Operation Python — sinking another three ships of the Pakistani Navy and setting the oil stores on fire for the second time.

By destroying its oil and ammunition supplies (and choking off resupply routes), these decisive victories drastically cut down Pakistan’s ability to continue engaging with the Indian forces. In fact, there was an effective blockade of the Karachi port without India having really declared one.

More importantly, it proved to be an important turning point of the 1971 war, which would eventually lead to the liberation of Bangladesh. Such was Operation Trident’s unprecedented success that it made the world sit up and take note of the Indian Navy – the daring mission was part of the first item on US President Richard Nixon’s morning brief by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) the next day.

For their audacious planning, brilliant execution and outstanding bravery, all the three missile boat commanders were awarded the Vir Chakra while the man who led the “Killer Squadron”, Commander (later Commodore BB Yadav) was honoured with the Mahavir Chakra. In a fitting tribute to these courageous men who pulled off one of the great sea-faring victories in Indian naval history, December 4 has also been celebrated as Navy Day ever since.

Source : Operation Trident: How Indian Navy Pulled Of Its Greatest Victories
By Sanchari Pal
So one of the aspects that doesn't get a lot of focus on the 1971 campaign is the naval battle in the East. INS Vikrant was absolutely amazing, it functioned with a handicapp in operations still was able to decimate the pakistani naval position in the east Pakistan.

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Arsalan123

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Yeah it's not 1971, it's 2019 and in a few days it'll be 2020. In 1971 you had much superior American and western weapons and US, NATO support even then 93000 eunuchs surrendered. Now we have bigger economy, better weapons, and US support along with Russian support. So it will be a bigger disaster for Pakistan. IAF will not only ruin PAF but also entire Pakistan as a nation on the whole. In future the gap will only widen with Rafales, LCA, AMCA etc.... Enjoy and cheers..☺☺

oh yeah i like it lol. daydreaming.