India - Pakistan Diplomatic Ties

Jaymax

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Simple answer. The economies of both India & Paxtan is down in the dumps with the latter in a far worse shape. Then there's the FATF for Paxtan to consider & for India there's China.
Plausible but why does it seem both sides are buying a few months before lapsing to their original forms the only tangible outcome is cooling down the super hot LoC
 
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vikata

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I don't understand why we are again entering in this pit full of vipers.
With Pakistanis economy down the drain, we should help it in further flushing.
Their rent army should be streched to the maximum from LOC to durand line coupled with freedom fighters in balochistan and KPK. Similarly PTM should be nudged towards separatism and something should be planted on iran /Pakistan border.


With all these they should be forced to spend maximum on their army by taking loan, and see how far is it sustainable.

We should ensure that no productive activity takes place which would send Pakistan on economic recovery path and it should be allowed to peacefully implode into pieces by the peacefuls. Similarly if we create some fund where we try to capture their export market by keeping prices down and subsidising our industry the marginal difference, it would require to the tune of 1-1.5 billion dollars but would have disproportionate impact way more than fancy gear could achieve.

If still after all this we are drinking aman ki aashaa cool aid then we are delusional and deserve to be kicked around.
 

TARGET

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I don't understand why we are again entering in this pit full of vipers.
With Pakistanis economy down the drain, we should help it in further flushing.
Their rent army should be streched to the maximum from LOC to durand line coupled with freedom fighters in balochistan and KPK. Similarly PTM should be nudged towards separatism and something should be planted on iran /Pakistan border.


With all these they should be forced to spend maximum on their army by taking loan, and see how far is it sustainable.

We should ensure that no productive activity takes place which would send Pakistan on economic recovery path and it should be allowed to peacefully implode into pieces by the peacefuls. Similarly if we create some fund where we try to capture their export market by keeping prices down and subsidising our industry the marginal difference, it would require to the tune of 1-1.5 billion dollars but would have disproportionate impact way more than fancy gear could achieve.

If still after all this we are drinking aman ki aashaa cool aid then we are delusional and deserve to be kicked around.
We are a peace-loving country, not a warmongering nation though we may act differently.:devilish: Bajwa will face rift from his own ISI member for this ceasefire and they will do something to keep the LOC active but till then peace 🤞
 

vikata

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We are a peace-loving country, not a warmongering nation though we may act differently.:devilish: Bajwa will face rift from his own ISI member for this ceasefire and they will do something to keep the LOC active but till then peace 🤞
you are right in a way ,any prime minister /president who has tried to normalise relation with india have been deposed .be it zulfiqar ali bhutto,ayub khan,zia ul haq,nawaz sharif ,benazir .heck even musharraf was thrown out with in years of 2003 ceasefire incident .so we have to see if head of imran khan is on the line ,but his NSA has already clarified that govt is not involved .

if they are serious or even want to bluff they will sack imran first ,as it would soothe the ego of ruling elite in india first aka modi , maybe help them in exiting this failed experiment of installing niazi.it would help pak army in gainig legitimacy from PDM and people in front of whom it has been badly exposed, and also help in creating charade of peace till next terror attack.
 

SrNair

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I don't understand why we are again entering in this pit full of vipers.
With Pakistanis economy down the drain, we should help it in further flushing.
Their rent army should be streched to the maximum from LOC to durand line coupled with freedom fighters in balochistan and KPK. Similarly PTM should be nudged towards separatism and something should be planted on iran /Pakistan border.


With all these they should be forced to spend maximum on their army by taking loan, and see how far is it sustainable.

We should ensure that no productive activity takes place which would send Pakistan on economic recovery path and it should be allowed to peacefully implode into pieces by the peacefuls. Similarly if we create some fund where we try to capture their export market by keeping prices down and subsidising our industry the marginal difference, it would require to the tune of 1-1.5 billion dollars but would have disproportionate impact way more than fancy gear could achieve.

If still after all this we are drinking aman ki aashaa cool aid then we are delusional and deserve to be kicked around.

Their is no use at all.
Pak economy is an underground economy without any formal taxes.All kind of illegal activities in all sector .
Even if we keep the pressure likethis and even they default 100 times they will stay like that as a nuisance.Besides there may be some US influence because even Pak want to escape from Chinese debt and precondition of US rengagement may be ceasfire in border.

But it also expensive for us .And Chinese side is still not relieved.
To drain them we have far better option , like in Balochistan.
Spend a fraction for intel rest they will do.
As of now Pakistan cant do much against India ,
 

vikata

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you are right in a way ,any prime minister /president who has tried to normalise relation with india have been deposed .be it zulfiqar ali bhutto,ayub khan,zia ul haq,nawaz sharif ,benazir .heck even musharraf was thrown out with in years of 2003 ceasefire incident .so we have to see if head of imran khan is on the line ,but his NSA has already clarified that govt is not involved .

if they are serious or even want to bluff they will sack imran first ,as it would soothe the ego of ruling elite in india first aka modi , maybe help them in exiting this failed experiment of installing niazi.it would help pak army in gainig legitimacy from PDM and people in front of whom it has been badly exposed, and also help in creating charade of peace till next terror attack.
i think this is exactly what is happening ,imran seems to be on his way out ,establishment trying to act neutral or even helping in th eexit of imran

for peace with india ,head of imran will be offered
 

STEPHEN COHEN

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Pakistanis had a huge sense of entitlement

But PM Modi has made them see their " Place " or rather put them in their place

Bajwa' s Army has lost the will to fight with India
 

Jaymax

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Whoever is pushing India and Pak carries a lot of weight.

Pakistan had been crying at the top of their lungs that without Pre 2019 situation in Kashmir there will be no talks. A climbdown without any concession from India means some one inserted the rod quite deep up their....

India had zero interest in a climbdown, given how bad Pak was down the shitter. Someone convinced them to play along. UAE does not fit the bill.
 

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STEPHEN COHEN

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Whoever is pushing India and Pak carries a lot of weight.

Pakistan had been crying at the top of their lungs that without Pre 2019 situation in Kashmir there will be no talks. A climbdown without any concession from India means some one inserted the rod quite deep up their....

India had zero interest in a climbdown, given how bad Pak was down the shitter. Someone convinced them to play along. UAE does not fit the bill.

US Alone can get this done

We have hit Pakistan so badly that they
Begged US for help

And of course their economy is going down every month

Our Army is only getting a well deserved Rest

But we should be absolutely clear that
Pakistan is " behaving " under enormous pressure

Wars are fought by money and resources