IAF to launch war games to hone fighting skills on Pakistan, China fronts [Ex Gagan Shakti]

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Here comes the smart a$$ with his wise one liners.
@Arvind , @nair .. Does this gentleman add any value to forum with his stupid rants??

So anyone who opposes your statements is a 'smart a$$' and needs to be banned from the forum eh? Isnt that a dictator's attitude? Did the allied forces tell you personally that they launched 100 missiles and that not much damage could be done?

The thing is, they destroyed the the targets they wanted to destroy and no 1 could stop them. Ofcourse the allies will exaggerate about the damage they did and Syria will exaggerate about how well it defended itself but truth is some where inbetween and the allies seem to have achieved most of their goals.

Satellite images show damage done to Syrian facilities by U.S.-led strikes

In regards to India and china, if defending against china was so easy peasy, we would not be so worried about defenses right now and thinking about installing a battery of s 400 near our borders with them. Underestimating or overestimating enemy is one of the greatest sign of stupidity.
 
Thread cleaned..... We have been as lenient as possible..... trying our level best to give you a platform where you can discuss matters freely..I think it is high time you guys (offenders) realise which is topic and which isn't...

Do not force us to be harsh....
 
Thread cleaned..... We have been as lenient as possible..... trying our level best to give you a platform where you can discuss matters freely..I think it is high time you guys (offenders) realise which is topic and which isn't...

Do not force us to be harsh....
Restrain that fool and things will be fine . Else he'd drag down everyone and with it , the quality of the forum .

Please keep a record of what he posts from today for a week ( forget about what happened in the past ) and please judge fairly if what he posts amounts to anything resembling a quality post .

If even 10% of his posts are judged quality posts , I'd sport a bald pate for a year . Dickraa mother promise.

He seems to think that strategic forum is his FB.Arre dickraa status update karyu chhe?

Jokes apart . I think you got the gist of my message .
 
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Please check the timing of shifting the game from western border to Eastern border. Is it not exactly what I posted about two front war? 3-5 days for Pakistan followed by unlimited time with China. Will China go for it when Pakistan is destroyed? What kind of affiliation do chinese have with muslims? If at all anything, they have it with India in the form of Buddhism.
One member posted that China will surely intervene as it knows that it is now known as a bully which just makes statements and nothing else. I wish to tell that member to revert to what I posted. A bully will never engage in a war which if lost can have disastrous consequences for him. For China to engage in war with India will be zero sum game. They will not be able to win it and will get destroyed and become a colony of 13 nations which surround them and with whom they have border and sea sharing problems. Will they do it? Chinese are far smarter people and they do not fight others wars while they want others to fight their wars.
 
Indian Air Force fighter jets do 5k sorties in 72 hrs on western front
HIGHLIGHTS

  • The IAF’s entire war-machinery has been activated for the ongoing pan-India exercise “GaganShakti”.
  • As many as 1,150 fighters, aircraft, helicopters and drones have been deployed for the high-voltage exercise.
  • The exercise is taking place with active participation from Army & Navy for integrated land-air-sea combat operations.



NEW DELHI: After the “surge” in air combat operations on the western front with Pakistan, which saw a staggering 5,000 sorties by fighters alone in just three days last week, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has now switched its forces to the northern borders with China from Ladakh to Arunachal Pradesh.

No, the worst-case scenario of a two-front war has not suddenly hit India. Instead, the IAF’s entire war machinery has been activated for the ongoing pan-India exercise “GaganShakti”. “It’s the biggest such exercise in terms of scale since Operation Brasstacks in 1986-1987, or Operation Parakram in 2001-2002 when India nearly went to war with Pakistan after the terror attack on Parliament,” said a senior officer.

Despite having just 31 fighter squadrons, when 42 are required to tackle the Pakistan-China threat, the IAF has pulled out all stops to hone its war-fighting skills by testing offensive and defensive capabilities on the two fronts.

As many as 1,150 fighters, aircraft, helicopters and drones as well as hundreds of air defence missile, radar, surveillance and other units have been deployed for the high-voltage exercise, which is taking place with active participation from Army and Navy for integrated land-air-sea combat operations. The IAF has systematically worked towards achieving 83% serviceability (operational availability of the number of aircraft at any given time) for the exercise, in conjunction with defence PSUs like Hindustan Aeronautics and base repair depots, from the usual 55%-60% in peacetime.
 
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Indian Air Force jets do 5k sorties in 72 hrs on western front - Times of India

“The aim of the exercise is to validate our operational capabilities and concepts in a realistic war-like scenario as well as check our ability to sustain high-tempo operations. It’s not aimed at any country,” said IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa.

But the game-plan is quite clear. If the focus in the western theatre was to generate the maximum possible sorties with the same number of fighters to overwhelm the enemy forces, the intent in the eastern one is to operate from dispersed locations to avoid the adversary’s rocket forces while undertaking deep strikes with Sukhoi-30MKI fighters being refueled in mid-air by IL-78 aircraft.

The combat manoeuvres along the northern borders will also see intensive high-altitude operations at advanced landing grounds and helipads, some as high as 20,000 feet, as also inter-valley troop transfers and logistics sustenance by heavy-duty helicopters to make up for the lack of roads.

“Fighters are also practising concentrated weapon releases in realistic attack scenarios all throughout Gagan-Shakti, which includes firing precisionweapons with ‘through window’ capabilities. A simulated battalion-level airborne assault behind enemy lines, which included paradrop of 560 soldiers, combat vehicles and GPS-guided cargo platforms, has also been undertaken with six C-130J Super Hercules and seven AN-32 aircraft launched from multiple airbases,” said another officer.

GaganShakti, in short, reiterates the primacy and flexibility of airpower in modern-day battles.The Sukhoi-30MKIs, which have a combat radius of about 1,500-km without mid-air refueling, for instance, have even got airborne from an eastern coast airbase to strike multiple targets in the western seaboard at distances beyond 2,200 km before landing at a southern base to cover a total distance of around 4,000 km in single non-stop missions.
 
So what is the solution for India? CSD-Cold Start Doctrine is what India needs and we need a very mature Political leadership to pull off CSD. We must engage Pakistan in talks when we decide to roll out CSD. A lull before storm is needed and Modi has shown that maturity when IA did Surgical strikes across LOC. He talked of fighting poverty and lack of education while IA was going across LOC to kill those *censored*s.
 
So what is the solution for India? CSD-Cold Start Doctrine is what India needs and we need a very mature Political leadership to pull off CSD. We must engage Pakistan in talks when we decide to roll out CSD. A lull before storm is needed and Modi has shown that maturity when IA did Surgical strikes across LOC. He talked of fighting poverty and lack of education while IA was going across LOC to kill those *censored*s.

Could you Please explain this Sentence

“Fighters are also practising concentrated weapon releases in realistic attack scenarios all throughout Gagan-Shakti, which includes firing precision weapons with ‘through window’ capabilities.
 
Please check the timing of shifting the game from western border to Eastern border. Is it not exactly what I posted about two front war? 3-5 days for Pakistan followed by unlimited time with China. Will China go for it when Pakistan is destroyed? What kind of affiliation do chinese have with muslims? If at all anything, they have it with India in the form of Buddhism.
One member posted that China will surely intervene as it knows that it is now known as a bully which just makes statements and nothing else. I wish to tell that member to revert to what I posted. A bully will never engage in a war which if lost can have disastrous consequences for him. For China to engage in war with India will be zero sum game. They will not be able to win it and will get destroyed and become a colony of 13 nations which surround them and with whom they have border and sea sharing problems. Will they do it? Chinese are far smarter people and they do not fight others wars while they want others to fight their wars.

That's pretty true, but at the same time, isn't it now or never for China?

It wouldn't be that smart on their part to intervene in a conflict between India and Pakistan, but if Pakistan receives a terrible defeat and basically stops being a threat of any kind to India, then India would be able to devote most of its focus to China. Not to mention, we're about to become far more lethal in the near future as our military modernization projects kick in (lots of new artillery guns, more submarines, more modern fighter jets, developed infrastructure on border and new Mountain Striker Corps etc).

On top of that, CPEC would basically be toast, and then there's also the significant matter of (alleged) Chinese military presence in PoK.
 
IAF exercise shows India can send to battle double the number of fighter jets that Pakistan can

The ongoing training exercise Gagan Shakti of the Indian Air Force (IAF) has demonstrated that it can put out double the number of fighter aircraft in combat compared to the Pakistan Air Force, should the situation arise.

As per the IAF Chief, Air Chief Marshal B S Dhanoa, IAF has achieved unprecedented serviceability levels of 80 per cent for its fighter aircraft during the exercise.

In an exclusive conversation with The Indian Express, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa said that “full credit goes to our engineers that we have built up the serviceability of fighter aircraft to 80%, compared to a target of 75%, and a dispatch reliability of more than 95% during Gagan Shakti exercise”.

Considering the vintage of its aircraft and problems with availability of spares, IAF has struggled to maintain high serviceability levels, i.e, have a greater number of its fighter aircraft available for operations. Dispatch reliability is the IAF’s ability to make airborne the number of serviceable aircraft, a figure which has been lower during peace time.

Top IAF sources told The Indian Express that these numbers were significant as they demonstrated IAF’s capability to “overwhelm the Pakistan Air Force by bringing double their number of fighter aircraft in combat, and that too with significantly higher throw weight”.
At 70% serviceability for its 371 fighter jets, Pakistan Air Force is estimated to be able to bring approximately 260 aircraft into combat but they have lesser stamina and capability than their IAF counterparts.

As far as China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) is concerned, sources said the IAF had shown its ability to observe the PLAAF from dispersed locations, thereby reducing the probability of it being hit by Chinese missile strikes. Sources, however, conceded that PLAAF has an overwhelming superiority in the number of fighter aircraft and its ability to employ them is constrained only by the geography of Tibet.

The IAF currently has 31 fighter squadrons against an authorisation of 42 squadrons. Sources conceded that this shortfall remains a criticality because these high serviceability and dispatch reliability levels have been achieved after eight months of sustained effort. It would be tough for IAF to replicate these numbers, if it is asked to go into combat on very short notice. Most analysts believe that the most likely future military conflict involving India would be a short war at very short notice. To kick off the IAF from peace locations and provide overwhelming superiority in such a scenario, it would need a much larger number of fighter squadrons.

Exercise Gagan Shakti has also shown that the IAF can do long-range sorties where fighter aircraft taking off from bases in southern and western India can reach targets 3,000 km away, say inside Tibet. But sources added a note of caution about the reach of long range trans-theatre flying due to low availability of mid-air refuellers.

Sources said that Exercise Gagan Shakti was not about learning tactical lessons but focused on checking logistics stamina to build up and sustain the high serviceability levels. This physically validates the operating time and effort taken to rotate the fighter aircraft after it has made one sortie, fired all its weapons and turn them out again after loading them fully.

As per Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa, “This has happened due to support of the defence ministry and because of close cooperation with public sector units such as HAL and BEL. I have said it at the recent Defence Expo in Chennai and personally thanked HAL Chairperson Dr T Suvarna Raju for the tremendous support HAL has given for the buildup of this serviceability.”
 
Gaganshakti 2018: IAF displays might, air chief says ‘we’re shaking the heavens’ | india news | Hindustan Times

Gaganshakti 2018: IAF displays might, air chief says ‘we’re shaking the heavens’

The Gaganshakti-2018 exercise seeks to test the IAF’s readiness and stamina for a two-front war with China and Pakistan.


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A Sukhoi 30 re-fuels mid-air during the Indian Air Force exercise. (Picture courtesy: Indian Air Force )
More than 1,100 aircraft – half of them fighter jets – have logged over 6,000 flight hours in three days during the Indian Air Force’s largest exercise in the past three decades, with Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh ’Tony’ Dhanoa saying on Monday that Pakistan was closely watching the operation that is “shaking the heavens and splitting the Earth”.

As IAF’s assets in the largest-of-its-kind exercise, Gaganshakti-2018, move from the western sector to the eastern front “in less than 48 hours,” Dhanoa said, all training activities in the force will remain suspended till the two-phase drill ends on April 22. It is usually in wartime that militaries shelve all training activities.

“We are flying a lot of sorties and dropping a lot of bombs. So in that sense -- borrowing a phrase from a Rand monograph -- I would say we really are shaking the heavens and splitting the Earth,” Dhanoa said in his first public comments on the exercise in which every wartime drill is being rehearsed.


United States-based think tank Rand Corporation had in 2011 published a document titled Shaking the Heavens and Splitting the Earth: Chinese Air Force Employment Concepts in the 21st Century.

The Gaganshakti-2018 exercise seeks to test the IAF’s readiness and stamina for a two-front war with China and Pakistan. “I wouldn’t like to comment on the two-front aspect… But every single platform in the IAF’s inventory is being exercised and we are carrying out surge operations – highest tempo operations where fighters and other platforms have clocked more sorties in three days than they normally would in over a month,” said Dhanoa, a decorated fighter pilot.

From deep strikes to air dominance and long-range maritime strikes off the west coast to air defence, the IAF is practising every manoeuvre in the book in its preparation for a short and intense war.

“India has not witnessed anything at this scale since Operation Brass Tacks in 1987. Weapon delivery scores for air-to-ground munitions were exceptional, both by day and night, and pilots have done a wonderful job in overcoming fatigue during surge operations,” the IAF chief said.

Conducted in 1987, Operation Brass Tacks was India’s largest peacetime military exercise that sent shock waves through Pakistan.

Once again, Dhanoa suggested that the western neighbour was rattled by the sheer scale and complexity of Gaganshakti-2018, despite being notified about the first phase of the exercise in the western sector.

“We have noticed that they (Pakistan) are monitoring Gaganshakti-2018 closely through their airborne sensors (airborne warning and control systems),” the air chief said.


Dhanoa said the IAF jets have recorded a serviceability rate of 80% and flown very long range missions flawlessly. In IAF parlance, serviceability of a fleet refers to how many warplanes are available for missions at any given time.

The exercise has had no glitches so far except a Jaguar fighter veering off the runway at the Bhuj airbase due to bad weather and a few Tejas light combat aircraft developing snags. “Hindustan Aeronautics Limited was able to fix the Tejas problems in less than 12 hours,” Dhanoa said.

British-origin Hawk advanced jet trainers, capable of dropping bombs, are also taking part in the exercise as the IAF is struggling with a shortage of warplanes.

Compared to an optimum strength of 42-plus units required to fight a two-front war, the count of the IAF’s fighter squadrons has shrunk to 30 (excluding the Tejas squadron with eight aircraft).
 
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Could you Please explain this Sentence

“Fighters are also practising concentrated weapon releases in realistic attack scenarios all throughout Gagan-Shakti, which includes firing precision weapons with ‘through window’ capabilities.
This means that fighters are not only dropping bombs on individual targets but also practicing carpet bombing in a massed formation. Through windom means extremely precise targeting using precision weapons and sensors.