High speed / Semi-High speed rail projects of Indian Railways

[HariPrasad]

Disgusting step by babus and politicians, after spending tens of thousands of crores on the project, they are handicapping the train for saving few tens of crores. From World class Shinkasen at 350 KMPH to BEML at 250 KMPH. Even 250 speed is ambitious, most probably will cap at 200 and then give excuses that it is better for safety etc

We came up with Vande Bharat but fastest Vande Bharat runs at an average speed of 96 kmph. One Vande Bharat runs at an average speed of 66 KMPH. The role of Babus in India is to ensure that no excellent thing may happen. Even if we make a 280 kmph train, it will run at a speed not more than 120 kmph.

 

[Gautam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901584836617445657

 

[Gautam]

Various semi-high speed / high speed trains in the works:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901276778548904412

 

[freedomone]

I stayed in Bangladesh for a while and now planning a trip to India through India Private Tours & Local Tour Guides Just wondering, is this new high-speed rail (like the Mumbai-Ahmedabad one) already operational, or still under development? Would love to experience one of these new trains if they’re running!, thinking of exploring the country by train. Just wondering, is this new high-speed rail (like the Mumbai-Ahmedabad one) already operational, or still under development? Would love to experience one of these new trains if they’re running!

 

[RISING SUN]

New Delhi –
Japan plans to provide East Japan Railway E5 and E3 series shinkansen for free to India as inspection vehicles for its national high-speed railway under construction in the western region of the South Asian country, it was learned Tuesday.


One train set each from the E5 and E3 series will be delivered to India in early 2026, after they are fitted with inspection equipment, according to informed sources.




The Japanese and Indian governments plan to adopt in the early 2030s the next-generation E10 series shinkansen of JR East for the roughly 500-kilometer high-speed rail link between Mumbai and Ahmedabad in western India. The delivery of the E10 trains will unlikely be in time for the line's partial opening, aimed for August 2027.

Japan to give India E5 and E3 shinkansen for free

The E10 trains are expected to be put into service in the South Asian country in the early 2030s.

www.japantimes.co.jp

 

[Gautam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928058479492612402

 

[HariPrasad]

Various semi-high speed / high speed trains in the works:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901276778548904412

Inspite of all so called innovations and technology upgrades, many trains takes same time to reach destination which it used to take 20 years ago. In some of the routs, Vande Bharat runs at an average speed of 67 KMPH. What is the use of making high speed trains?

 

[screambowl]

Inspite of all so called innovations and technology upgrades, many trains takes same time to reach destination which it used to take 20 years ago. In some of the routs, Vande Bharat runs at an average speed of 67 KMPH. What is the use of making high speed trains?

It's not for us, its the first building block for next generation which will be more disciplined enough to understand the technology and use it wisely.

 

[HariPrasad]

It's not for us, its the first building block for next generation which will be more disciplined enough to understand the technology and use it wisely.

But what is the use? Today, all vande bharat runs slower than Rajdhani. Vande Bharat runs at 130 kmph so as other old trains. There is no time saving. Whatever time is saved is at the cost of other trains. They delay other dozens of trains to enable Vande Bharat to reach in time.

 

[screambowl]

But what is the use? Today, all vande bharat runs slower than Rajdhani. Vande Bharat runs at 130 kmph so as other old trains. There is no time saving. Whatever time is saved is at the cost of other trains. They delay other dozens of trains to enable Vande Bharat to reach in time.

The use will be after 10 years, it takes time for a society to adapt. More over Vande Bharat has more frequency of trains per day. Earlier one Shatabdi per day, which was also very costly.

 

[Prokion]

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/railways-beml-to-start-work-on-bullet-train-by-september-3859284/

Production of the first prototype of the BEML High Speed train to begin from this september, to be rolled out next year in December. Top speed-280kph, average speed- 250 kph. To be tested on the MAHSR track.

 

[HariPrasad]

The use will be after 10 years, it takes time for a society to adapt. More over Vande Bharat has more frequency of trains per day. Earlier one Shatabdi per day, which was also very costly.

My friend is in railway. He told me that Railway babus are intentionally keep the timing high so that they may not have any trouble in getting trains reached in time because of extra caution. Ultimately, passengers suffers. What will you do with Vande Bharat with 67 KMPH average speed? It should do at least 110 average timing. Even the vande bharat designer was saying this in an interview.

I want Vande Bharat to run 150 kmph. When your current trains does 130 kmph, what is the point in restricting vande Bharat to 130 KMPH at which it is restricted. Light weight, non coaxial wheel, better pick up and breaks has no meaning if it does not result into improvement in timing.

 

[vstol Jockey]

I want Vande Bharat to run 150 kmph. When your current trains does 130 kmph, what is the point in restricting vande Bharat to 130 KMPH at which it is restricted. Light weight, non coaxial wheel, better pick up and breaks has no meaning if it does not result into improvement in timing.

Most of our rail tracks are limited to a max speed of just 130KMPH.

 

[HariPrasad]

Most of our rail tracks are limited to a max speed of just 130KMPH.

However, sir this train was made with light weight material and independent wheels compared to coaxial wheel. When they were made, it was told that it will do 20 to 30 km more on same tracks. It is not happening. Other trains run at 130 so as Vande Bharat.

 

[screambowl]

However, sir this train was made with light weight material and independent wheels compared to coaxial wheel. When they were made, it was told that it will do 20 to 30 km more on same tracks. It is not happening. Other trains run at 130 so as Vande Bharat.

It is because of unwanted trespassing on the tracks, some times people, cattle, etc and idiots throwing stones. And some tracks are not upgraded at all for high speed.

 

[Ashwin]

Mysuru-Chennai bullet train project gains momentum​

“A dedicated rail corridor will be built for the bullet train,” NHSRCL Managing Director Nishant Singhal said, highlighting that the route will pass through Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka, with a total of nine stations planned across the three States.


One of the key stretches of the project includes a 77-kilometre segment running through Palamaner and Bangarupalem in Chittoor district of Andhra Pradesh, with a proposed station near Ramapuram (Palamaner).

Land acquisition activities are actively underway in 41 villages, involving around 876 farmers. Stone markers have already been placed and preliminary notices are being issued to landowners detailing the extent of land required.

Survey work and utility mapping are in progress, with NHSRCL awarding contracts for the preparation of General Alignment Drawings, identification of overhead, underground and overground utilities and locating suitable sites for power substations. The corridor will also feature several elevated bridges to ensure smooth, uninterrupted operation of the bullet train.

 

[HariPrasad]

It is because of unwanted trespassing on the tracks, some times people, cattle, etc and idiots throwing stones. And some tracks are not upgraded at all for high speed.

Then what is the meaning of all those advertisements when there is no benefit of the system in term of timing?

 

[Zarion]

Then what is the meaning of all those advertisements when there is no benefit of the system in term of timing?

"No benefit" is incorrect. The coach itself was needed to replace the older LHB and ICFs in the railways. If your concerns are speed then you'll have to wait around 15-20 years for implementation of better tracks in the majority of the Indian network because it's going to be expensive and long. Though Greenfield projects may implement higher speeds earlier.

The high speed rail networks like the Namo bharat and bullet train projects will be the ones which will be hitting higher speeds than the Vande Bharat due to dedicated tracks being built for them.

 

[HariPrasad]

"No benefit" is incorrect. The coach itself was needed to replace the older LHB and ICFs in the railways. If your concerns are speed then you'll have to wait around 15-20 years for implementation of better tracks in the majority of the Indian network because it's going to be expensive and long. Though Greenfield projects may implement higher speeds earlier.

The high speed rail networks like the Namo bharat and bullet train projects will be the ones which will be hitting higher speeds than the Vande Bharat due to dedicated tracks being built for them.

These trainset were build to run faster on same track. Even on batter track, current trains can do 160 kmph. Rajdhani does 150 kmph on many sections for many years.

 

[Zarion]

These trainset were build to run faster on same track. Even on batter track, current trains can do 160 kmph. Rajdhani does 150 kmph on many sections for many years.

They were built to replace ICF and the older LHBs. Hitting 150 kmph means nothing if the average speed remains in the 80s, the Vande Bharat is made to attain an avg speed of 100-130 km with upgrades in the tracks. The Vande bharat also hits 160 on some "sections" but that doesn't mean anything because the avg speed needs to be increased with better tracks.