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We are not even in the game. The pakistanis have way more assets than us in Afghanistan. And they have successfully shifted the allegiance of the pashtuns from the Afghan state towards them. Something the Afghans wanted to do to the Pakistanis.
Till it doesn't affect Kashmir, India is not in game but in case Pakistan tries to play mischief which it will, to counter Pakistan in POK, India have to be influential in Wakhan region and Tajikistan.
 

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India need to change demographic of whole Kashmir and border area. Muslim need to be sterilised and all India problem are solved. These monkey can't do any mischief without collusion of monkeys on our side.
 

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India need to change demographic of whole Kashmir and border area. Muslim need to be sterilised and all India problem are solved. These monkey can't do any mischief without collusion of monkeys on our side.
On this forum some one posted a photo I think it was that Safir and also saw on other forum and on twitter as well, showing Indian artillery positions exactly within hours of CFV in J&K. The locals were protesting against the deployment. What it means? That Pakistanis got the exact locations without using satellites :p before hand.
Where as till now there are no enough photos of pakistani artillery in civilian areas in POK ever came in media or shown by Indian media.

India used to blame that Pakistan Army uses civilian area to suppress artillery Pakistani blamed it back to India with an evidence and protest by locals lol.
 
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On this forum some one posted a photo I think it was that Safir and also saw on other forum and on twitter as well, showing Indian artillery positions exactly within hours of CFV in J&K. The locals were protesting against the deployment. What it means? That Pakistanis got the exact locations without using satellites :p before hand.
Where as till now there are no enough photos of pakistani artillery in civilian areas in POK ever came in media or shown by Indian media.

India used to blame that Pakistan Army uses civilian area to suppress artillery Pakistani blamed it back to India with an evidence and protest by locals lol.
Pakistan HUMINT network in India is strong which is given thanks Chacha ji... did you ever notice that every major Indian military sites is surrounded by mosques which suddenly popped up one after another, after every new military construction... Everyone panties are in a twist from America to china after we removed article 370. they are really s**t scared specially Pakistani's that we are going to change constitution which we should have long time back....Modi is to unpredictable for them specially Chinese.
Kashmir problem could be solved right now while whole world is distracted from coronovirus. if it's up to me I would send every 3rd landless guy in this country to kashmir along with an assault rifle to settle down. while sending all Nordic Kashmiri to Bihar. Whole problem will be solved in no time.
 
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Pakistan HUMINT network in India is strong which is given thanks Chacha ji... did you ever notice that every major Indian military sites is surrounded by mosques which suddenly popped up one after another, after every new military construction.
Even many Hindus knowingly or unknowingly are part of that.

Everyone panties are in a twist from America to china after we removed article 370. they are really s**t scared specially Pakistani's that we are going to change constitution which we should have long time back....Modi is to unpredictable for them specially Chinese.
A370 is irrelevant. Pakistan aims to expand it's territory where as India puts all the resources to defend. Whatever is happening is happening inside Indian border because Pakistan and China keep India busy in turmoils.

Water, land , and resources that's all a conflict is about.

There is no solution to it.
 

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Even many Hindus knowingly or unknowingly are part of that.



A370 is irrelevant. Pakistan aims to expand it's territory where as India puts all the resources to defend. Whatever is happening is happening inside Indian border because Pakistan and China keep India busy in turmoils.

Water, land , and resources that's all a conflict is about.

There is no solution to it.
Well there the problem. India need to be aggressive at least with Pakistani's.. History has shown aggressor always win on a long run. I bet if things were in reversed and Pakistan was in same position geographically , economically those islamist would have eaten us alive. You are are dealing with a typical macho Punjabi hot gas With brain of a peanut from across the border with dreams of mughaliastan on subcontinent once again.
 
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Even many Hindus knowingly or unknowingly are part of that.
Hindu think about money now. To materialistic. while Muslim have found 4 nation for themselves. Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and gulf. Remember India is a joint account Pakistan and Bangladesh are fixed.
 
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India need to change demographic of whole Kashmir and border area. Muslim need to be sterilised and all India problem are solved. These monkey can't do any mischief without collusion of monkeys on our side.
I have been thinking about this a lot. The thing is demographic change is an extremely long process it takes a lot of time and still can backfire. We could do some ghar wapsi but the moment the media will get some idea they will start pumping articles against the state. And the international media will gobble it up and will create an image of fascist India stronger. A much better technique is using the Chinese method. Subtle reeducation of Muslims in Kashmir by using madrassas . The thing is maulvis are the interpreters for Islam for the general muslim population and they create the message. Most radicalisation takes in madrassas. Simply control the maulvis and make them say pro-india line and little by little the population will start thinking differently. Money is stronger than alllah buying there loyalty would be pretty easy take the control of the sunni waqf board and make it loyal to the government and then we can push any agenda we want. The maulvis will make the mullas pro-india and use the social media to demonize Islam which is also done now but more successfully. Plant the liberal pill in mullahs and make them weaker. This will have immediate effects on the muslim population. Muslims are the only minority group that don't participate in any way. The whole system is in a way to keep them backward so you have fools that go to tableeghi jamaat . The liberal and commie politicians and the maulvis benefit from this system. We need more tarek fateh's .
 
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Twitter has suspended a fake account which was used by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to spread false news and propaganda against India in the Gulf.

The suspended Twitter account is @idanialusaf, it was impersonating Noura bint Faisal, a princess of Saudi Arabia by creating a fake ID named @NouraAlSaud and was involved in anti-India propaganda.

Fake accounts are being created in the name of royal family members of Gulf countries to spread hatred about India.

ISI was behind the two hashtags - #ShameOnModi and #ChaosInIndia that was trending on Tuesday and Wednesday, it has been learnt.

Read more at:
Twitter suspends fake account associated with ISI



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Those people who mock screambowl on different threads this for them .
 
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Soldiers are fighting terrorism and Ambanis Adanis looting the government and people. No doubt that he is a Dawood's man after reading the below article, more over that Anil Ambani had links with D gang in dubai as well. Investigation on Ambanis for Economic terrorism should be opened.
Many party members of BJP are reliance people. (I believe)

Submarine deal, Rafael Deal, 5G, now petrochemicals under Government being sold to them. BJP is compromised to capitalists. Who can even approach ISI to neutralize the rivals. And People think all the information on defence deals will not be leaked to Pakistan/China?

I hve a doubt that French were not very interested to give the ToT to Ambanis and that's what the fuzz was all about because they knew the background of the firm and links with people in Pakistan, who would leak the tech to China.

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Bombay Dyeing-Reliance feud: RIL executive arrested on charge of conspiring to kill Wadia
The Bombay Dyeing-Reliance Industries feud took a startling twist with the arrest of senior Reliance executive Kirti Ambani on the charge of conspiring to kill Bombay Dyeing Chairman Nusli Wadia. A volatile mix of politics, crime and business, it is the political dimension of the case that is most intriguing.
Raghu Nandan Dhar M. RAHMAN .Prabhu Chawla August 31, 1989 ISSUE DATE: August 31, 1989UPDATED: October 30, 2013 17:56 IST


The protagonists are a study in contrast. On one side, Dhirubhai Ambani, a street-smart operator whose rags-to-riches story has rewritten corporate history and radically changed the rules of the market-place. And ranged against him, Nusli Wadia, a suave, sophisticated tycoon descended from centuries of empire builders.
The contrast does not end there. Ambani presides over the fastest-growing industrial group in the country with assets of Rs 3,875 crore. Wadia is chairman of Bombay Dyeing, a conservative institution with assets of just Rs 259 crore.

Despite that, their battle has become one of the fiercest and most personalised in Indian corporate history, involving not just business rivalry but also the most powerful personages in the country. But now, even by their extreme standards, what is unfolding is, possibly, the bloodiest chapter in the cutthroat war.

The arrest last fortnight of Kirti Ambani, a senior employee of Ambani's Reliance Industries for conspiring to murder Wadia, exploded like a well-timed bomb, shaking the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the corporate sector, and, above all, the political establishment.

By last week, as Kirti, 48, Reliance general manager (public relations), was finally released on bail after spending sleepless nights in a dingy Bombay police lock-up, the case had created ripples that reached the office of the prime minister, caused deep rifts in the ruling party, and almost jeopardised the career of Maharashtra Chief Minister Sharad Pawar. The reason for the widespread tremors: the tentacles of the Ambani empire reach into every corner of the Government's power structure, while Wadia has the unrelenting backing of the Ramnath Goenka-owned Indian Express newspaper chain. Wadia is also a good friend of Pawar.

Claims and Counterclaims
Ambani Camp
  • Why would the Ambanis want to eliminate Nusli Wadia? He is much too insignificant a business rival for them to take such an extreme and foolhardy risk.
  • They are among the fastest growing industrial houses in the country. They have no need to stoop to such criminal activities at this stage of their growth.
  • Nusli Wadia blames his business set-backs on the Ambanis. He is trying to retaliate by taking the support of the Indian Express group.
  • This is a frame-up essentially aimed at undermining the unprecedented Rs 920-crore public issue of Larsen and Toubro to be launched in a few weeks from now.
  • Why would they hire a small time criminal like Babaria? If they had to eliminate Nusli Wadia, they would have surely employed a professional killer who could do the job quickly and efficiently.
Wadia Camp
  • Dhirubhai's sons, Anil and Mukesh, hold Nusli Wadia responsible for the stroke which almost crippled their father in 1986 following the pressure put on him by V.P. Singh and the Indian Express.
  • Wadia would be a major source of information about the Ambani's business dealings if a new government headed by V.P. Singh is formed.
  • By silencing Wadia, the Ambanis will silence the Indian Express. They believe Wadia is keeping the Express afloat.
  • The conspiracy to kill Wadia was hatched months before Ambani applied for the L & T share issue.
  • Since all the top hit men of Bombay have recently been liquidated or arrested in the police crackdown, there was no choice.

It is these larger dimensions that have given the case a sensational twist, as has the modus operandi for the alleged plot - hiring contract killers from Bombay's underworld to eliminate Wadia. Though the Ambanis have been tight-lipped, apart from a press release on the day of the arrest terming the case "a frame-up", the Bombay police seemed to have a substantial case.

The two men involved in the investigation, Police Commissioner Vasant Keshaorao Saraf, 55, and Joint Commissioner (Crime) Arvind Siddeshwar Inamdar, 48, have impeccable reputations. But even they were startled last month when a senior Crime Branch inspector reported a meeting with an underworld contact in which he learnt of a 'supari' contract floated last November. 'Supari' contracts, in which gangsters are paid to carry out a killing, are nothing unusual in Bombay's underworld. But the target of this one was someone special: Nusli Neville Wadia.

The events that followed exposed the explosive implications of the case.

July 12: A day after Wadia landed in Bombay after a trip abroad, Saraf detailed a team to protect him.

July 17: Saraf sought a meeting with Pawar, met him along with Inamdar, and detailed the extraordinary dimensions of the case. Worried that the information would leak to the Ambanis, the two police officers insisted that only the chief minister who is in charge of the home portfolio, and Home Secretary S. Ramamoorthi be briefed. Minister of State for Home Vilas Sawant who is said to be close to the Ambanis was kept in the dark.

July 20: Ramamoorthi wrote to his counterpart at the Centre, detailing the case, emphasising its seriousness, requesting that Union Home Minister Buta Singh be informed, and suggesting that the CBI be asked to take over investigations.

July 23: Getting no response from New Delhi, Ramamoorthi sent another letter asking for instructions.

July 28: With the Centre still maintaining a deafening silence, Pawar gave the signal for the arrest of Kirti Ambani who was out of Bombay; the police decided to wait.

July 28: CBI boss Mohan Katre, known for his close links with the Ambanis, flew in to Bombay. Unusually, Katre went to the Bombay High Court where Wadia's visa case was being heard even though the CBI had nothing to do with it.

July 31: Kirti returned to Bombay from Patalganga. At 7.30 p.m., Crime Branch officers visited his office at Nariman Point and then accompanied him to his plush residence situated in Twin Towers complex, a lane away from Wadia's idyllic beach-side bungalow. While the house was being searched, another posse of officers picked up Arjun Waghji Babaria, 35, from his modest, powder-blue tin shack in the backyard of the Bhendi Bazaar Police Quarters. Babaria, a podgy, goateed drummer who called himself 'Prince Babaria' was known to be a 'fixer' who arranged contract crimes.

August 1: Kirti Ambani and Babaria remanded to police custody.

The arrest and subsequent details of the case left observers dumbstruck. Kirti is known to journalists as an amiable, soft-spoken .public relations man who often acted as a spokesman for Reliance. But since 1985, he had also been in touch with Babaria. In an album seized from Babaria's house, police found photographs of the two together. They also found newspaper photographs of Wadia and his black-topped Buick.

However, the likelihood of the Ambanis, despite their street-fighting image, stooping to murder, was received with incredulity. The immediate reaction was that the Ambani arrest was part of a larger political game involving Pawar and his fragile relations with the Centre. The fact that Pawar is a friend of Wadia and has no love lost for the Ambanis only added to the swirl of speculation.

But there was also the other side of the story: the fact that the Bombay police is known for its apolitical image and that the two officers, Saraf and Inamdar, were the least likely to be involved in any political shenanigans. Both have unimpeachable reputations for integrity and ability. Saraf, who became commissioner two years ago, worked in the CBI in the '60s, then in raw and the Intelligence Bureau. Inamdar, famed for refusing to bow under political pressure, has been transferred 22 times in his 25-year career. The state Government had even recommended his transfer to the Centre; Saraf had stalled it.

Then, as bits of the evidence started leaking out, the murder case began to look more plausible. According to the police, Kirti allegedly sounded out Babaria last November for arranging the killing of a 'big businessman'. Babaria was a fixer with widespread contacts in Bombay's underworld. The contract, according to police sources, was worth Rs 50 lakh and Babaria was to be the go-between.

But finding the right contract killer was proving difficult. For, the last 18 months had seen a police crackdown which had left many contract killers dead or in jail. Babaria apparently decided to use small-time killers, hoping to keep a larger share of the 'supari' money. By the time he was arrested, he had acquired a Premier Padmini car, a colour TV set, jewellery and other valuables.

Babaria introduced 'Shanu', a young gangster involved in two murders, to Kirti as 'Shakeel', one of Dawood's well known hit-men. Babaria and 'Shanu' met Kirti several times at two hotels, Horizon and Palm Grove. The plan allegedly was to block Wadia's limousine with another car as he emerged from his bungalow in Prabhadevi and gun him down. Alternatively, Wadia was to be killed as he left his office at Ballard Pier, which is quite deserted at his usual departure time of 8 p.m.
Police say that the murder plot was far advanced. Two revolvers had been acquired and others hired for the job. 'Verma', a garage man from Babaria's area, was paid Rs 50,000 to buy the guns and drive the getaway car, while a second, unnamed gunman was hired for Rs 10,000. But the actual execution was delayed because they were looking for a third gunman They were also unsure of escaping. And Wadia's frequent trips abroad did not help either
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After several postponements, July 24 was fixed as D-day. But Crime Branch officers had, by then, stepped into the picture. The sleuths made Babaria telephone Kirti Ambani from, the police station and recorded three conversations between them and another between Kirti and 'Shanu'. On one of.the tapes, Kirti allegedly complains: "Why hasn't it been done yet? The bosses are after me."

Adding spice to the speculation is the fact that rivals of the Ambanis have in the past often run into unusual accidents. Pankaj Mehra, son of Orkay's Kapal Mehra, was in 1982 beaten up and left in a ditch in Patalganga Jamnadas Murjani, president of the All-India Crimpers Association, and a vocal critic of Reliance was attacked with a sword in 1986 in Bombay. And Bipin Kapadia of a rival firm, Hakoba Embroidery, was attacked with a knife, in 1974, outside Akbar Hotel in New Delhi.

The arrests made, Crime Branch officers started grilling Kirti and Babaria, confident of extracting the details of the alleged conspiracy. But then, expectedly, the Government woke up to the significance of the case. Since the request from the state Government for the CBI to take charge of the case was already in the files. New Delhi issued a notification within 24 hours,directing a take-over. .

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Article is big, and can be accessed on the link . I posted above.
 

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Pakistan had all the information about India's oil reserves and new policies on economic for dealing sanctions after nuclear test 1998. As per the article below. Thanks to reliance industries
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Sandipan Deb, Ajith Pillai, Ishan Joshi, Sujata Anandan
30 November 1998

It was exactly eight in the morning of November 19 when the Ambassadors carrying the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) team braked in front of the building called Sea Wind in Mumbai's posh Cuffe Parade. A few minutes later, the CBI men went further than any government agency had gone in the 35 years since Reliance Industries came into public focus. They entered Dhirubhai Ambani's top-floor apartment with a search and seizure warrant.


Simultaneously, CBI teams were barging into Reliance offices both in Mumbai and Delhi, and into the houses of top executives of the Rs 13,000-crore company. They stayed for more than eight hours, scouring every nook and cranny of the premises with a fine toothcomb. It was no ordinary raid. Indeed, strangely enough, for a company that has always matched the meteoric speed of its business growth with a penchant for lurching from controversy to scandal, this was only the third time that the company had been raided in three decades.


But more importantly, this time, the CBI was looking for evidence of no commercial crime, but violations of the Official Secrets Act, a draconian law framed in 1923 which gives the investigating agency sweeping powers to accuse, arrest and keep suspects in custody for any length of time with almost no legal recourse available to the accused. The raiders' aim: to see if the Ambanis and Reliance were in possession of any classified policy documents of the government.


Initially, Reliance denied that there was any raid on. But as the news spread like wildfire through India's media and business community, and the rumour mill began grinding, the company decided to admit the facts. The next morning, Reliance spokespersons announced that the search-and-seizures had turned up nothing incriminating. Not everyone agreed. CBI sources told Outlook that the raiders did recover some documents that revealed what went on behind the scenes before Indian Oil Corporation signed the deal of the decade with Reliance Petroleum, virtually guaranteeing the company's profits for years to come. These papers, claimed the sources, were classified Petroleum Ministry documents that come under the ambit of the Official Secrets Act.


The trail that led the government to the Ambanis started with the arrest in Delhi of now-infamous Dawood Ibrahim henchman Romesh Sharma. When the Delhi Police discovered evidence linking Sharma with Reliance Industries' president in Delhi, V. Balasubramaniam, on October 28, they raided the residence and office of the top executive, the man known in the corridors of power as "Balu", and reputed to be Dhirubhai Ambani's chief fixer in the capital. Though Balu's home yielded nothing, when the searchers opened his office drawer, they found something they didn't like. The search and seizure report of the Delhi police lists three "incriminating documents", on the basis of which Balu was booked under the Official Secrets Act:


  • Photostats of the 17-page Cabinet Secretariat document No 72/1998 relating to a September 14 meeting of the Core Group on Economic Matters on The Challenge of Economic Sanctions to India.
  • Photostats of the nine-page minutes of the 37th meeting of the Core Group of Secretaries on Disinvestments, held on September 21. The police also found that these documents had been faxed to a Mumbai number in the Reliance head office, and another unlisted number, again in Mumbai.
  • Photostat of a letter written by Petroleum Secretary T.S. Vijay Raghavan to Revenue Secretary Javed Choudhry containing tentative proposals on restructuring customs duties on petroleum product imports leading up to the full opening up of the oil sector in 2002. This document had also been faxed to a number in the Reliance head office.

The possession of the first two documents may not result in any obvious commercial gains for the Ambani empire, but the third would surely have been something that Reliance, whose primary business is petroproducts, could use to plan ahead, far ahead of their rivals.


Reliance has weathered many storms in the last three decades, but this could well turn out to be the worst that has struck its ship. Though the moment Balu's name cropped up in the police reports, Reliance categorically stated that Balu's proximity to Romesh Sharma was purely in his personal capacity and had nothing to do with his employer, the discovery of these documents has dragged the company into the picture. And Reliance has been plunged into a situation where it seems to have no defence at all. The company can hardly claim that Balu acquired these documents in his personal capacity. Besides, Balu faxed them to the Reliance head office, proof of which is with the investigators.


It is a fairly open secret that Reliance has over the years cultivated a network of government officials who have given advance information to the company on upcoming policy changes. The company has always been suspected of acquiring government documents to plan its business strategies, and there have been enough allegations that the company got hold of Budget proposals days before the finance minister stood up in Parliament to read his Budget speech. Now, the seizures from Balu's office provide incontrovertible proof that Reliance was indulging in legally punishable activities. And if the government can prove that the seized documents come under the Official Secrets Act, then the Ambani empire is in deep trouble. It will require every ounce of Dhirubhai's political clout to get him out of this one.


But whatever the Ambanis' strategic response to the raids—and there will surely be one—as things stand, the search-and-seizures have raised a number of puzzling questions. For instance, have the raids been instigated by more than just the Balu connection? Why did the Reliance raids come a full 21 days after the documents were found in Balu's drawer? Indeed, even the identity of the ministry which ordered the raids seems unclear.


Reliance itself claims that this is part of a corporate war. It is not naming who these business enemies are, but the usual suspect's name has cropped up: Nusli Wadia, chief of Bombay Dyeing, who has been fighting a no-holds-barred war with Reliance for more than two decades now. Wadia apparently was in touch with his friends in the BJP in the days preceding the raids. Wadia's friend, industrialist-politician Jayant Malhoutra, though, scoffs at this. "Nusli Wadia's sales are today less than Reliance's profits, so where's the rivalry?" he says. "They are blaming business rivals to mislead the people. Actually there's a slip somewhere in what they call 'managing the environment'."


But, say market sources, Wadia has not been alone in his Ambani-hatred for the past few years. His close friend Ratan Tata reportedly still suspects the Ambanis of having engineered the leak of tapes of embarrassing phone conversations between Wadia and Tata, and Wadia and industrialist Keshub Mahindra last year, relating to Tata Tea's connections with the ULFA in Assam."Today there's no difference between Wadia and Tata. They're one and the same," says a top Mumbai stockbroker.


There's another business family name that is being whispered in the corporate world as being behind the raids: the London-based Hindujas. As the Ambanis have pursued their single-minded agenda of backward-integrating their business, from textiles to polyester fibres to the petrochemicals that go into making the fibres, and finally to petroleum refining and even oil exploration, they have been moving closer to a little-known moneyspinning business of the Hindujas: exporting crude oil and petroproducts to India. The recent deal between Indian Oil and Reliance that commits India's largest oil corporation to buying a large part of the production from Reliance's enormous upcoming refinery may not have been music to the Hindujas' ears.


But a top aide of the prime minister has a different view. He insists that the decision to raid was more CBI director Trinath Mishra's than anyone else's. According to him, both Vajpayee and home minister L.K. Advani, when informed by Mishra of his plan a couple of days before the raiders moved in, made it clear that this was not what they wanted. Neither, apparently, was in favour of humiliating Dhirubhai by raiding his house and made this clear to Mishra, while telling him that he should do what he "felt was right". This is the (unofficial) official line and this is the logic backing it:


The situation after the December Supreme Court order on the appointment of the CBI director has made it dangerous for any government to mess with him. It is also being pointed out that R.C. Sharma, Mishra's predecessor, was not granted an extension by the court, making it very clear who has the authority over the CBI. There is a definite attempt by those close to Vajpayee to paint Mishra as the man who acted on his own.


The raise-doubts-about-Mishra's-intentions strategy includes floating the story that "though his integrity is without doubt", there could be other reasons. The main being the fact that Mishra is only an acting director of the CBI and that the Central Vigilance Commission, which is now in place, will appoint the director for a fixed term after a few months—the innuendo is that he did it to ensure that it would be far too controversial not to confirm him after he has very publicly taken on as big a fish as Reliance.


Like every theory on the raids, this too has enough debunkers. "No bureaucrat would ever take this sort of action on his own against a man as powerful as Dhirubhai," says a Mumbai-based Reliance official. "Searching Dhirubhai's home, entering his bedroom, is unthinkable. No CBI director would do this. This is a political act." But whose? Consider this: the CBI comes under the prime minister's office, but investigations relating to the Official Secrets Act are the Home Ministry's responsibility. So who okayed the raids?


The Ambanis are seen to be close to Vajpayee and Pramod Mahajan, and, though traditionally close to the Congress, the group has not done anything to upset the BJP. The only black mark against it in the BJP's book is Reliance's alleged funding of BJP rebel Shankersinh Vaghela's election campaign in 1995 and 1997. After Vaghela made it to the Gujarat chief minister's office, he reportedly pushed through the group's 27-million-tonne refinery project at breakneck speed. Vaghela supporters touting this Ambani support angered Advani, who has traditionally been anyway seen as cold to the Reliance charm.


Opposition politicians allege that the Reliance raids are just part of the BJP strategy for the upcoming assembly elections in four states
. On the backfoot in Delhi and Rajasthan, the BJP may be using the raids to prove to the electorate that it is firmly committed to rooting out cor ruption, no matter how powerful the culprit. This, too, sounds flimsy since raiding vegetable hoarders would have been a far more effective and easier decision than insulting the Ambanis.


Reliance insiders also allege that this is just a ploy to divert public attention from the many politically sensitive skeletons that could be tumbling out of the Romesh Sharma investigations. "If you pursue all the trails from Romesh Sharma, you would end up with an amount of dirt that no government would like to handle," says a source. "So make a hue and cry about Reliance, and the people are forced to look in the wrong direction, while you quietly hush up the potentially embarrassing stuff."


But was the government serious about the raids? Why were 21 clear days allowed to elapse between the recovery of the Balu documents and the raids on the Ambanis? It is clear that Reliance was forewarned. The Ambani-owned daily Observer of Business and Politics had been carrying stories for days that the government was considering raiding Reliance offices. At least three days before the raids, Mumbai business circles were buzzing with rumours. In fact, Reliance offices were inundated with calls from journalists asking whether the raids had begun. So if there were incriminating documents to be recovered by the CBI from Reliance offices, the company had more than enough time to get rid of them. Yet, the ferocity of the raids—specifically, the search of Dhirubhai's home—surprised even Reliance.


The only explanation seems to be that the order to raid must have been given in full earnest, but Reliance has enough bureaucrats friendly with the company to delay the raids and leak the information. In fact, one story doing the rounds in Mumbai business circles is that the initial proposal extended even to arresting Dhirubhai and his two sons, Mukesh and Anil. This was overruled at the last moment by the prime minister's office. It is, however, clear that Reliance's traditional clout over the Central government—whoever runs that government—has eroded since the BJP-led coalition came to power.


What happens now? Will the government pursue the investigations to their logical conclusion? But does not this also involve ferreting out bureaucrats who have been feeding sensitive and classified information to Reliance? How deep does Reliance's influence go in the corridors of the ministries? A full investigation will open up a Pandora's box which could have far-reaching—indeed difficult-to-imagine—consequences.


This is in fact the Ambanis' best hope. Says an industrialist friendly with the family: "Under the law, both the bribe-giver and the bribe-taker are equally culpable. If the government is serious, let it also find out who in the government leaked the documents to Balu."


There is also doubt about whether the Delhi police had got its investigative procedures right when it raided Balu's office. A widely accepted interpretation of the Official Secrets Act is that the incriminating documents should be "secret" on the day of recovery. The authority which decides whether a document is top secret when it is seized is the Cabinet secretary whose office then issues a certificate to this effect to the investigating agency for use in a court of law.This, it seems, was not done when the documents were seized from Balu's office. Official sources admit that a letter to the effect that these documents were "secret" was obtained by the CBI only a couple of days before the November 19 action from the Cabinet secretary, nearly three weeks after the first raid.


Another allegation is that independent witnesses, though taken along for the raid as is the requirement, were not taken into the room where the documents were found. Could these foul-ups, if they did happen, weaken the case against Balu and therefore Reliance on a technicality?


Meanwhile, industrialists are already whispering of the possibility of the government launching a raid raj, since Advani has been talking rather aggressively about cracking down on corruption in all the election rallies he has addressed. A flurry of raids, however, seems unlikely, since this will be the kiss of death for an economy that is already floundering.


But in the offices of Reliance, dismay is giving way to resolve. The company is even reconciled to the fact that a few top people could be arrested in the coming weeks. Strategies are being hammered out, and favours are being called in. One thing, though, is clear. The Ambanis, who have never been known for the quality of forgiveness nor forgetfulness where past slights are concerned, are not going to go down without fighting. For beneath the calm managerial stances, the family feels that its patriarch has been insulted, humiliated. Government men entered his home. That, the family feels, crossed every line that the Ambanis have believed to be sacrosanct. It was a declaration of war.
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It harldy matters who ordered the raids but the fact remains the same, douments on oil and economic policies were faxed by Reliance man to Reliance office, as per the article and which also went into the hands of dawood's man.
 
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