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China is building more than 100 new missile silos in its western desert, analysts say​

Researchers using commercial satellite images spotted 119 construction sites where they say China is building silos for intercontinental ballistic missiles. The image has been annotated to show site locations. (Planet/Center for Nonproliferation Studies)
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Joby Warrick
June 30, 2021 at 8:25 p.m. GMT+1

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China has begun construction of what independent experts say are more than 100 new silos for intercontinental ballistic missiles in a desert near the northwestern city of Yumen, a building spree that could signal a major expansion of Beijing’s nuclear capabilities.

Commercial satellite images obtained by researchers at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, Calif., show work underway at scores of sites across a grid covering hundreds of square miles of arid terrain in China’s Gansu province. The 119 nearly identical construction sites contain features that mirror those seen at existing launch facilities for China’s arsenal of nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles.
The acquisition of more than 100 new missile silos, if completed, would represent a historic shift for China, a country that is believed to possess a relatively modest stockpile of 250 to 350 nuclear weapons. The actual number of new missiles intended for those silos is unknown but could be much smaller. China has deployed decoy silos in the past.


During the Cold War, the United States developed a plan to move its ICBMs across a matrix of silos in a kind of nuclear shell game, to ensure that Soviet war planners could never know exactly where the missiles were at any given time.
The construction boom suggests a major effort to bolster the credibility of China’s nuclear deterrent, said researcher Jeffrey Lewis, an expert on China’s nuclear arsenal and part of a team that analyzed the suspicious sites, first spotted by colleague Decker Eveleth as he scoured photos taken by commercial satellites over northwestern China. Lewis described the scale of the building spree as “incredible.”
“If the silos under construction at other sites across China are added to the count, the total comes to about 145 silos under construction,” Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the Center for Nonproliferation Studies, part of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, said in a summary of his findings provided to The Washington Post. “We believe China is expanding its nuclear forces in part to maintain a deterrent that can survive a U.S. first strike in sufficient numbers to defeat U.S. missile defenses.”
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The discovery follows recent warnings by Pentagon officials about rapid advances in China’s nuclear capability. Adm. Charles Richard, who commands U.S. nuclear forces, said at a congressional hearing in April that a “breathtaking expansion” was underway in China, including an expanding arsenal of ICBMs and new mobile missile launchers that can be easily hidden from satellites. In addition, the Chinese navy has introduced new nuclear-weapons-capable submarines to its growing fleet.
A commercial satellite photo taken Monday over northwestern China shows what experts say is a construction site for a new silo for a nuclear-tipped ICBM. The construction site is hidden under a 230-foot cover, a common concealment practice observed at other Chinese missile sites. (Planet/Center for Nonproliferation Studies)
The reported silo construction project could provide China with yet another means of concealing its most powerful weapons. The construction sites spotted on satellite photos are arrayed in two huge swaths, covering parts of a desert basin stretching to the west and southwest of Yumen, a city of 170,000 people along China’s ancient Silk Road.


Each site is separated from its neighbors by about two miles, and many of the sites are concealed by a large, dome-like covering, following a practice observed at known construction sites for missile silos in other parts of China. At sites where the dome is not in place, construction crews can be seen excavating a characteristic circular-shaped pit in the desert floor. Another construction site appears to be a partially built control center.
Lewis said the silos are probably intended for a Chinese ICBM known as the DF-41, which can carry multiple warheads and reach targets as far away as 9,300 miles, potentially putting the U.S. mainland within its reach. Major excavation work on the sites began early this year, although preparations were probably underway for months, Lewis said.
Emails and faxes seeking comment from China’s Foreign Ministry in Beijing and the Chinese Embassy in Washington did not receive a response.


A Defense Department spokesman declined to comment on the satellite images or to discuss U.S. intelligence assessments of China’s nuclear program. But the spokesman, John Supple, noted that Pentagon reports and analysts have previously raised concerns about the proliferation of China’s missile silos. “Defense Department leaders have testified and publicly spoken about China’s growing nuclear capabilities, which we expect to double or more over the next decade,” Supple said.
Missile silos are easily spotted by trained imagery analysts, and they are vulnerable to destruction by precision-guided missiles in the early hours of a nuclear war. For those reasons, Lewis sees the silo construction project as part of an expanded deterrent strategy by a country whose nuclear arsenal is dwarfed by those of the United States and Russia, which collectively possess more than 11,000 nuclear warheads.
Rather than engaging in an expensive arms race with Washington and Moscow, China has traditionally embraced a “limited deterrence” doctrine that prioritizes a lean but robust nuclear arsenal that ensures Beijing’s ability to retaliate against any adversary if attacked.
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In recent years, however, Chinese officials have complained that their country’s nuclear deterrent is losing credibility because of nuclear modernization programs proposed or already underway in Russia and the United States. Beijing has resisted calls to join new arms-control talks because of fears that new limits would forever enshrine its status as a second-rate nuclear power compared with Washington and Moscow.
Commercial satellite photos show suspected construction sites for missile silos in China. (Planet/Center for Nonproliferation Studies)
Photos of the Gansu construction project were supplied to Lewis and Eveleth by the commercial satellite company Planet, which provided a continuous stream of updated images showing progress at each of the construction sites over time. Based on his analysis, Lewis said, there was “a very good chance that China is planning a shell game” in which it hides a relatively small number of warheads across a network of silos. Still, he said, the sudden appearance of so many new launch sites could increase pressure on U.S. officials to speed up efforts to modernize the U.S. arsenal.


“We’re stumbling into an arms race that is largely driven by U.S. investments and missile defense,” Lewis said. The Pentagon has announced plans for an extensive upgrade of U.S. nuclear weapons and delivery systems over the next two decades, including a new air-launched cruise missile and at least two new types of warheads.
In February, Secretary of State Antony Blinken vowed in a statement that the Biden administration would “pursue arms control to reduce the dangers from China’s modern and growing nuclear arsenal.” He did not explain how that goal would be accomplished but said the administration would seek “effective arms control that enhances stability, transparency and predictability while reducing the risks of costly, dangerous arms races.”

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With 1/3rd of them occupied with real missiles and each with at least 3 warheads, we are talking about 120 new warheads. But the real deal's gonna be the new Type 096 subs. 12 subs, 16 missiles and 3 warheads will give them 576 warheads at sea, if they match US and Russian treaty limited inventories. If they don't, then it could be double or even triple that number. And there's no guarantee they will stop at 12 subs either.
 
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With 1/3rd of them occupied with real missiles and each with at least 3 warheads, we are talking about 120 new warheads. But the real deal's gonna be the new Type 096 subs. 12 subs, 16 missiles and 3 warheads will give them 576 warheads at sea, if they match US and Russian treaty limited inventories. If they don't, then it could be double or even triple that number. And there's no guarantee they will stop at 12 subs either.
Who says 1/3rd occupied and 3 warheads though? DF-41s are reputed to carry 12 warheads. It's clear China has well over 260 warheads.
 
Who says 1/3rd occupied and 3 warheads though? DF-41s are reputed to carry 12 warheads. It's clear China has well over 260 warheads.

I merely considered the minimum possible for both silos and submarines.

Anyway, for strategic use, both DF-31 and DF-41 are considered to carry 1-3 warheads of varying yields.

As is likely the case with the DF-5B, though, the number of warheads the DF-41 carries might be significantly less, perhaps three, and the additional payload capability focused on decoys and penetration aids to overcome the US ballistic missile defense system. If development is successful, the DF-41 will likely replace the DF-5.

But yeah, they don't need to restrict themselves.

When it comes to the Russians, with the exception of the old Satan and Stiletto, the newest missiles have 1 warhead on ICBMs and 3 or 4 on SLBMs. Their newest missiles have 1 or 3 warheads. The Chinese could follow the same model. But then there is the Sarmat, although the DF-41 is not in the same class.
 
I merely considered the minimum possible for both silos and submarines.

Anyway, for strategic use, both DF-31 and DF-41 are considered to carry 1-3 warheads of varying yields.

As is likely the case with the DF-5B, though, the number of warheads the DF-41 carries might be significantly less, perhaps three, and the additional payload capability focused on decoys and penetration aids to overcome the US ballistic missile defense system. If development is successful, the DF-41 will likely replace the DF-5.

But yeah, they don't need to restrict themselves.

When it comes to the Russians, with the exception of the old Satan and Stiletto, the newest missiles have 1 warhead on ICBMs and 3 or 4 on SLBMs. Their newest missiles have 1 or 3 warheads. The Chinese could follow the same model. But then there is the Sarmat, although the DF-41 is not in the same class.
The Russians are part of START, which means inspection, China are not. All these assumptions that they only have 3 warheads per missile are garbage. It's fast approaching the point where China has almost as many dectuple MIRVed missiles are their claimed number of warheads.
 

The silos appear designed to take the DF-41 missile, which has a maximum range of 9,300 miles and can carry 10 warheads apiece. The 145 silos, if fully stocked, would pack a punch against continental American targets.

“Just this deployment alone will provide China over one thousand new on-alert warheads—1,450
 
Gordon Chang is a rabid anti CCP personality . Most members here who've read him are aware of it . Of course , you wouldn't deduce it even if someone informed you after you've perused all his articles.
 

START needs to finish.

There could be a third field as well. Maybe even a fourth. And we know for a fact they plan to build many SSBNs as well, at least 2 in parallel. And there's the H-20 coming up.

It's becoming obvious they won't be playing the minimum deterrence game anymore.