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Chinese Hypersonic Boost Glide Vehicle Concept That Launches Its Own Weapons Emerges
A hypersonic boost-glide vehicle that releases various payloads could offer significant benefits, but also faces major technical hurdles.
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Exclusive: China Debuts CM-98 Stealth Cruise Missile to Challenge US JASSM and European Storm Shadow
Exclusive: China Debuts CM-98 Stealth Cruise Missile to Challenge US JASSM and European Storm Shadow
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This is old news from two years ago, there was AKF98A then at 2022, now it is out for exportExclusive: China Debuts CM-98 Stealth Cruise Missile to Challenge US JASSM and European Storm Shadow
Exclusive: China Debuts CM-98 Stealth Cruise Missile to Challenge US JASSM and European Storm Shadow
Chinese scientists have successfully tested a non-nuclear hydrogen bomb amid the People's Liberation Army's (PLAs) push towards cleaner energy solutions. The move comes amid the US' increasing defence support to Taiwan, and China's quest for dominance in the South China Sea.
According to a report in South China Morning Post, the explosive device, weighing 2 kilograms, was developed by the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s (CSSC) 705 Research Institute, which is known for its work in underwater weapon systems. Unlike traditional nuclear bombs, this device uses a magnesium-based solid-state hydrogen storage material known as magnesium hydride, which is capable of storing more hydrogen than pressurised tanks.
" Non nuclear hydrogen bomb"
Very clickbaity and misleading headline by SCMP.
It's just a thermobaric bomb.
Take the nuclear part out of a hydrogen bomb and you can't do fusion, hydrogen bomb by definition means fusion.
By the same logic of calling a thermobaric bomb a "non nuclear hydrogen bomb" I can say:-
"My organic cooling system has deployed phase-shift evaporation to maintain thermodynamic equilibrium under metabolic heat stress."
Basically sweating due to heat.
Is that why we've discovered an almost intact PL-15 in the same vicinity as the alleged crash of the Rafale ?
If I were you Wumao , I'd immediately report this to my handler in the MSS & boost my social credit. Times are hard , what with deflation reigning in Zhongghuo.
Well, it seems that no one can guarantee like you that the J10C can only launch one missile at one target. In fact, most air forces would choose to launch at least two
No, not tail-chase, but head-on. That's the standard NEZ. PL-15E is 45-50 km, PL-15 is 60-70 km. Meteor's at 60 km.
In tail-chase, the NEZ will be less than 30 km for these missiles.
You are confusing NEZ with Dmax.
Essentially, to get NEZ, just divide Dmax by 3. And to get Dmax, reduce the known max range (if it's real) by 30%. At least you will have a ballpark figure.
The so-called Rafale shoot-down was over an air base.
How will the PL-15 do that outside its range? The air base is 90 km from the border, and possibly about 130-150 km from PAF CAP. It's too far.
No, there is a crash site available. But they said it's a UAV.
One M2000 and one Mig-29 are possible, but the proof is still insufficient.
But the Rafale's M88 crash site doesn't have ground damage.
Look at what a simple drop tank can do, compare that to the video I posted.
We definitely should see ground damage under M88, but it's too clean.
All your inferences are based on the limited range of PL-15. So the question is, where did you get the specific range of PL-15?
It's easy to calculate because we can relate it to known figures of other missiles.
AIM-120A/B's NEZ is 20 km, and the Europeans said Meteor has 3 times that, so Meteor is 60 km.
PL-15 exceeds Meteor's range. We know Meteor can do 250 km, so we can estimate PL-15 for a range up to 300 km, both could drop well below mach 2.5 at that point. And we know the Dmax of PL-15E is 145 km, so max range should be 200 km.
Now with just 10-15 seconds of boost, the PL-15 starts losing energy around the 50-55 km mark. If a target is around, the seeker will pick it up and a second pulse is activated, that's about an extra 15 km. So this way the missile is at its highest speed throughout the flight profile until target miss/impact. That's how you get NEZ. Highest speed and highest G performance with highest SSKP during impact against a target that's maneuvering and using countermeasures.
OK, now all your stuff can be said to be your own assumptions. The only thing you have verified now is that China once marked the effective range of PL-15E as 145 kilometers.
You don't even know under what conditions China measured the 145km figure.
So your assumptions can only be called limited assumptions.
Also, I took a quick look at your assumptions, and I found an obvious misunderstanding on your part. The dual-pulse engine can adjust the pulse, and its range is a variable data.
Call them assumptions, but they will be very close to the truth.
The dual pulse too, I have assumed the highest range. So all its productive ranges will be less than my assumptions, not more.
F-22 pilots too have openly said that they try to get within 50 km of a target for a BVR launch, that's about 10-15 km more than the NEZ of the AIM-120D.
There are other design considerations too. Like Astra Mk1 uses higher boost speed of mach 4.5 to maximise long range, whereas R-77-1 uses slower boost speed of mach 4 to maximise NEZ while sacrificing long range. PL-15 uses its greater fuel reserve and dual pulse motor to deliver a mach 5+ burnout speed to get its higher range, like Astra Mk1. So its NEZ will be lower than its true potential, like Astra Mk1, so 70 km is acceptable, with the second pulse adding 15 km. But if PL-15 uses the range mode of the second pulse, then its NEZ will be even lesser because the objective is range. So NEZ vs top range is subject to design compromises.
AMRAAM-D gets its long range because it burns out at mach 4 while carrying more fuel than Astra Mk1.
Meteor too provides 250 km at mach 3.5 + glide. But when it accelerates to mach 4.5, the top range reduces to 100+ km. That's 60 km at top speed, and then glides the remaining 40+ km before it loses most of its energy.
Never mind, I don't want to say anything, since you don't want the real thing, such stupid stuff,, I didn't even quote from a Chinese or Pakistani forum, I just quoted from an American Reddit channel, and it was deleted from this forum
This forum is no different from any other Indian forum
Can turning a blind eye to the problem really save the Indian Air Force from failure?
American Reddit channel about PL-15? What did they say? My posts were deleted too.
@LX1111
You can see the drag marks on the ground.
The missile fell intact, so it was a soft landing, and you can still see the ground damage. There's no such thing visible in the M88 video.
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You can see the drag marks on the ground.
The missile fell intact, so it was a soft landing, and you can still see the ground damage. There's no such thing visible in the M88 video.
@Amarante @Picdelamirand-oil