Air Engagement of Operation Sindoor : Analysis
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I am sure it did. The fact that they dared to do it means they were certain that there exists a high probability that the Jags will succeed w/o losses. However, it is very 'unconventional' of them to do so as you pointed out.Maybe the local terrain favored a small low flying aircraft.
I'll fire two shots here. Things should stay balanced:
1. The missile here can be a dummy. The footage obtained in non-combat operations stipulates that the FA carry these in place of live-active munitions. So, it does not say anything about the IAF Rafale being able to fire Meteors. I have footage of the French lot carrying out tests of the same from 2019. Someone exposed to IMINT can help us determine whether these are live or inert.
2. The Missile has been integrated with the FA and can be used. If the video is from combat operation, then the controversy is over.
So far as per the information available:
Meteor can be fired from Rafales. India has bought the missiles. I have not seen any firing trials of Meteors being held in India. Wreckage belonging to Brahmos, SCALP, Rampage, and S-400 missiles has been seen. There is no confirmed visual footage or images belonging to Meteor.
If this is singularly being used for IMINT and Meteor related confirmation, what a tragedy for Def. X and OSINT scene in India.
Also, as per the Def. account K. Singh the world keeps ending for India every other day.
No, I differ on this fact. The area which were targeted by IAF jets, and the fact (at least publically known) that IAF jets remained well inside Indian Air space, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Haryana and Punjab sectors didn't had geographical features to help with the terrain masking approach except Pathankot onwards HP & J&K union territories. Something tells me there is more to this than what we are trying to interpret here.Maybe the local terrain favored a small low flying aircraft.
A visual confidence and Spectral Confidence threshold criteria must be met to classify something as it is supposed to be or designated to be. The confidence levels above 0.8/0.9 are needed to take any image analysis seriously. The next time someone just shows you a part ask them for the methodology and the analysis algorithms' raw outputs.
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Flock of blind sheeps are looking for greener pastures!
As someone said earlier, HAVE FAITH!
paf literally did spray and pray with all the p15s they had, ones our jets launched their ground payload, hence fired first , now when the missiles are coming towards you, you don't fight back you run, especially when ground payload is already launched.
The tactical blunder was letting paf shoot first, because order from above was to only target terror infra and don’t engage with Pakistani military if possible.
And how do you claim to know the fact that PAF fired first?
In 2025, the official Indian statement regarding military action against Pakistan emphasized a policy of strategic restraint and non-escalation, specifically directing initial strikes only at terror infrastructure.
IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal Amar Preet Singh later revealed that the air command center had issued strict orders to pilots not to engage in combat with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) during the initial bombing of terror sites on May 7 to avoid broader military conflict.
I cannot comment on any other aspect. However, not doing SEAD was not a good decision. As Gautam said earlier, pretty insane that they agreed to do it w/o SEAD. Could be geopolitics and other things. The fact that they pulled it off w/o Pilot loss is something they should be credited with. I see very few people talking about the fact that India did not loose any pilots. IAF did a decent job.
The cowards hid behind civilian air traffic and fired PL-15s from aprox 200kms away. We couldn't fire back because that could have caused civilian life loss and a major tragedy which our government wanted to avoid. Our Ops wasn't a full fledged war but a restraint skirmish with Pak.
Rest assured that in a full-fledged war, Meteors will be fired and taste blood of PAF fighters.
Something that a vast majority fail to consider. India issued repeated warnings regarding this and even repeated this in print/TV media.
Re-read and understand what you are saying and is that making sense to you?
If you have still not got how, if any, IAF fighters may have been brought down, let's go back to the original statements made by IAF and CDS top brass, to understand that it was SAM batteries mostly who took down the jets on both sides. Indian fighter jets came back with revised strategy on 10th however PAF fighter jets remained stationed or deployed beyond current inventory missiles to avoid the same trap which earlier both sides faced.
Many on Indian side forget and dismiss the claim of HQ9, though there is no definite statement from IAF however it can be generally deduced from Indian armed forces top brass's multiple statements where they got surprised, and that's a big if.
Many on Indian side forget and dismiss the claim of HQ9, though there is no definite statement from IAF however it can be generally deduced from Indian armed forces top brass's multiple statements where they got surprised, and that's a big if.
Yes and they were of no help as that happened after first day of initial one hour engagement.
Indian fighter pilots delivered what they were asked for. Equipments losses, if any, don't matter in bigger game picture.
Though Christopher Clary is known to be biased towards Pakistan due to obvious reasons, some of the reporting are worth looking into.
www.stimson.org
Four Days in May: The India-Pakistan Crisis of 2025 • Stimson Center
An early assessment of available evidence on what transpired in the recent India-Pakistan crisis and its implications
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We should See the May Conflict as one GIANT Leap towards A Decisive Victory in Future
The lessons learnt would be most useful in future
For Pakistanis, the TWIN shocks are that their Investment in Jihad and Nukes have both gone waste
They were beaten black and blue and The WORLD just Shrugged it off
Neither The Jihadis nor the Nukes will prevent Them from being Hammered and pounded
The lessons learnt would be most useful in future
For Pakistanis, the TWIN shocks are that their Investment in Jihad and Nukes have both gone waste
They were beaten black and blue and The WORLD just Shrugged it off
Neither The Jihadis nor the Nukes will prevent Them from being Hammered and pounded
Did India view HQ9 as a threat? This gives us some information towards that angle why India was trying to hunt at least 2 HQ9s to the best of our knowledge which apparently were four when agencies tracked them through the intel.
They also show that India destroyed one Chinese LY-80 fire radar, two AN/TPQ-43 US-made automatic tracking radars, and one fire unit of the Chinese HQ-9 radar at Chaklala during the retaliatory strike on May 10. Intelligence inputs now suggest that Pakistan has four HQ-9 (the Chinese equivalent of the Russian S-300 air defence radar systems), instead of the two originally estimated by national security planners.
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They also show that India destroyed one Chinese LY-80 fire radar, two AN/TPQ-43 US-made automatic tracking radars, and one fire unit of the Chinese HQ-9 radar at Chaklala during the retaliatory strike on May 10. Intelligence inputs now suggest that Pakistan has four HQ-9 (the Chinese equivalent of the Russian S-300 air defence radar systems), instead of the two originally estimated by national security planners.
19 Brahmos, Crystal Maze missiles: How India brought Pakistan to its knees during Op Sindoor
During Operation Sindoor, IAF fighters, S-400 system and missiles downed six Pakistani aircrafts and destroyed four radars.| India News
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Key Questions about the India-Pakistan Aerial Clashes
There is a risk of drawing the wrong conclusions about Chinese and Western air capabilities from the recent clashes if Indian fighter losses are looked at without close examination of the wider operational picture.
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