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So its OK to target one religious community and state in a protest with farmers from different religious communities and states? Or it's OK to call pure farmer agitation as Pakistani backed Khalistani protest?
Hilarious it is, as Sanghi clowns sponsored by traders copy pasting the US framed market based farm laws in our country! But did not have guts to accept the outcome/results of these laws. Also, explains why a 10 lakh suit wearing 'Chaiwala Revolutionary' with a 'Tadipar' leading the charge for implementation!!!
'Swarajyamag'..LOL
How The British Sowed The Seeds For Khalistani Movement Before Indians Took Over: Part 1
It is the British who sowed the seeds for the Khalistan movement by dividing Punjabi society into Hindu and Sikh. Post independence, what started as a game for political power snowballed into a terror movement, aided by Pakistan who wanted to do a Bangladesh to India.swarajyamag.com
No comments.....bhwaahahahagaaaa
Who sowed the seeds Hindutva?
Who sowed the seeds of lynching?
Who sowed the seeds of Babari Mosque demolition?
And finally....
Who let the dogs out..who..who..who..who???
The Clowns camping at Delhi border under the leadership of our esteemed Clown-e-Azam Tikait must understand that Market based economy is not the US invention. It’s defacto system in majority of the countries barriers few like NoKo,Venezuela,and few other insignificant countries. Even Indian kings used similar economic policies since centuries before arrival of Islamic Invaders.
One should have to read Kautilya to understand this simple fact.
But then High testosterone makes reasoning difficult for such clowns of Tikait puppet show.
Reminds me of Headless Chickens LOLs. Very entertaining to watch.
#Tata-Birla ki Sarkar-1991
#Ambani-Adani ki Sarkar-2021
“plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose “ ( the more things change, the more they stay the same) - Alphonse Karr
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Thanks you for an Interesting read.looks very lengthy. Will read it later.'Swarajyamag'..LOL
No comments.....bhwaahahahagaaaa
Who sowed the seeds Hindutva?
Who sowed the seeds of lynching?
Who sowed the seeds of Babari Mosque demolition?
And finally....
Who let the dogs out..who..who..who..who???
PS: Hindutva is Hindi translation of Hinduism which means Hindu way of life.
Hindus are the people living in what you called earlier as Hindo-stan
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In market based economies like US, EU and Japan, farmers are provided annual subsidies upto the tune of 4200000/-. About Birlas and TATAs, they have some moral & ethical values left, they still do. They are industrialists. But Adanis & Ambanis are just thugs of Gujarat with no morality or ethics except profit by any means and they are just traders & middleman.
Sanghi's leave your obsession with Kautilya and Vedic times. Its 21st century and your obsession with the past is destroying this country. There is no uddan yantar, vedic sastar or Kautilya will help you, if people of this country revolted to beat your asses due to your excesses and obsessions similar to Islamists.
Yes we know you Sanghis are obsessed with testosterone, because of your un-ability to produce adequate amount of the same and thats why either you are leaving your wifes on the name of saniyaas or they are falling pray to 'love jihad'.
No one is opposing subsidies to farmers. In fact I’ll be the happiest person since we'll get direct benefit of any such subsidies. But making small and marginal farmers hostage to Dallas of west UP, Haryana and Punjab is what we are opposing.Obviously Dallas are not happy as the host, of whom blood they are sucking since decades have now decided to use pesticides.
BTW love this a “His dalla bad, My dalla good” mantra . Very nice way to convince the rest of others.
A person supporting Arhatiyas/dallas over small poor farmers is teaching about morality is ironic unless he himself belongs to bloodsucking class.
I’m a Hindu and I’m proud of our culture be it Vedas or Our great ancestors like Kautilya, Chola, Kanishka, Shivaji, Laxmi bai , Maharana Pratap, Guru Nanak and Guru Govind Singh
, Vivekananda,Mahatma Buddha and countless others . Unlike you I’m not ashamed of my ancestors and culture.
So give it a rest as your insults to our faith and culture are quite repetitive and boring. Pakistanis do it all the time and nobody cares. You are welcome to try anyway.
And rest assured I will not get trapped into your ambush and utter any profanity or insult about our Sikh Gurus or customs. I believe in our ancestors and my faith. I never forget to bow my head to pay respect to our Gurus whenever I pass from the Gurudwara next corner.
And threats of revolts and violence is not cutting anymore.A particular community do it all the time. You are welcome to try it.
Try something new my Sikh bra
. Excessive threats will only make you look more clownish than you already areHonestly you remind me of how Pakistanis used to think. I guess it’s Jatt culture. One such clown lives above my apartment. He’s my friend though. So again boring.
Try something new besides insulting women
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Things have changed so quickly. Now after DCB by central government, you’re crying for Arhatiyas/Middleman oppression
#Hum hi farmer hum hi Middlemen
True.
this poster is inciting the others to use derogatory words for Sikhs since quite some time in this forum. Just check his post above. Doubt he’s even a Sikh.
Have been living in Sikh neighbourhood and is Sikh owned apartment since 2 and 1/2 years. Never seen or felt an ounce of hatred even to this date.
He is trying to portray these amendments as Anti-Sikh and this agitation/protest as Anti-Hindu protests.while the fact is even its leaders is a Hindu billionaire from West UP and most of the bulk is committing from Haryana and West UP.
Lal Slam, Comrade! Nice to hear that you know the reality of subsidies.No one is opposing subsidies to farmers. In fact I’ll be the happiest person since we'll get direct benefit of any such subsidies. But making small and marginal farmers hostage to Dallas of west UP, Haryana and Punjab is what we are opposing.Obviously Dallas are not happy as the host, of whom blood they are sucking since decades have now decided to use pesticides.
BTW love this a “His dalla bad, My dalla good” mantra . Very nice way to convince the rest of others.
A person supporting Arhatiyas/dallas over small poor farmers is teaching about morality is ironic unless he himself belongs to bloodsucking class.
I’m a Hindu and I’m proud of our culture be it Vedas or Our great ancestors like Kautilya, Chola, Kanishka, Shivaji, Laxmi bai , Maharana Pratap, Guru Nanak and Guru Govind Singh
, Vivekananda,Mahatma Buddha and countless others . Unlike you I’m not ashamed of my ancestors and culture.
So give it a rest as your insults to our faith and culture are quite repetitive and boring. Pakistanis do it all the time and nobody cares. You are welcome to try anyway.
And rest assured I will not get trapped into your ambush and utter any profanity or insult about our Sikh Gurus or customs. I believe in our ancestors and my faith. I never forget to bow my head to pay respect to our Gurus whenever I pass from the Gurudwara next corner.
And threats of revolts and violence is not cutting anymore.A particular community do it all the time. You are welcome to try it.
Try something new my Sikh bra
Honestly you remind me of how Pakistanis used to think. I guess it’s Jatt culture. One such clown lives above my apartment. He’s my friend though. So again boring.
Try something new besides insulting women
Now about dalals, we don't have dalals in our Mandi System period. Arthiyas are just service providers. Its the Political Dalals who want to bring in corporate dalals to destroy our mandi system and enjoy the loot together with Sanghis. One more things, you all sanghi trained at one place or its the curriculum that you are expert in changing the goal post.
Everything else is just your blabbering!!!
I am not crying for anyone, I am crying for our future, our mandi system and our farmers!Things have changed so quickly. Now after DCB by central government, you’re crying for Arhatiyas/Middleman oppression
#Hum hi farmer hum hi Middlemen
#Hum hi Sanghi, Hum hi Trader, Hum hi Modi
As I already said we don’t need “services” of these “services providers”. We want more options and more freedom to decide what is best for us. “Services providers” have no rights to decide that on behalf of us.
they can go *censored* themselves. No one can force us to take their “services” while blocking all other options. We will oppose these “service providers” every time they try to force themselves upon us.
Never been to any sangh in my life so can’t comment to your allegations.
And I’m just replying to your hormonal outburst.Not changing any goalposts
you can keep your mandis. And please don’t cry bra. Sikhs don’t cry for any hardships( If you really are one). Sikhs believe in sharing and truthfulness. Talking from real experience.
#Modi Modi. Modi Modi
PS: of course everything else is blabbering. A non toxic blabbering. The blabbering in which I believe
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When you make a statement like this. Explain your PoV.
From where we look any middle man is inefficient. State and middle man is taking away share from farmers kitty for basically doing nothing.
A drug dealer is also a service provider.
Explain how and what unique service is this middle man is doing which the farmer (If he wishes) cannot do. Not asking for rhetoric.
How skipping the middleman and giving the money directly to the farmer a bad thing?
It’s one and the same. He’s using English words to look it more professional.
These Dalals/Arhatiyas come to our villages during harvest season and buy bulk of wheat and rice at throwaway price,and since they bribe the RTO and excise they are allowed to transport huge amounts to Punjab and Haryana. While small and marginal farmers don’t have even tractors let alone money and time to bribe Police and excise. We are trapped in same situation since decades.
I still have childhood memories of being forced to return midway because some police wala demanding high rate and resulting frustration of burning Diesel and sweat essentially for nothing. Also incidents of waiting for weeks on roadside at the front of FCI purchasing points only to be told to go home as yearly quota is already over.
And whatever amount we can transport to nearby Mandi, our local Dallas makes sure that will not get the price worth such a hardship and money.
Only reason we produce wheat and rice is because it’s less labor intensive and risk free due to easier storage requirements and also can be used ourselves if not sold at all.
These Dalals/Arhatiyas come to our villages during harvest season and buy bulk of wheat and rice at throwaway price,and since they bribe the RTO and excise they are allowed to transport huge amounts to Punjab and Haryana. While small and marginal farmers don’t have even tractors let alone money and time to bribe Police and excise. We are trapped in same situation since decades.
I still have childhood memories of being forced to return midway because some police wala demanding high rate and resulting frustration of burning Diesel and sweat essentially for nothing. Also incidents of waiting for weeks on roadside at the front of FCI purchasing points only to be told to go home as yearly quota is already over.
And whatever amount we can transport to nearby Mandi, our local Dallas makes sure that will not get the price worth such a hardship and money.
Only reason we produce wheat and rice is because it’s less labor intensive and risk free due to easier storage requirements and also can be used ourselves if not sold at all.
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So drugs and food grain are the same thing? RIP Logic!
Now about service providers, Arthiyas in our mandi system are not middle man and are essential for mandis. Yes there space for improvement, but removing arthiyas is not improvement. A middle man purchases food grain or any commodity at low price, lower than MSP and sell at high price to govt or any other traders/consumers & earn profit. Arthiyas did not purchase anything period. They work as commission agent for govt.
In our mandis, Arthiyas receive food grain from farmers, clean it using their own workers/labors, cheque the moisture according to the advisable limits and hence help farmer to make it sallable. After govt agency inspector's made purchase of farmer's produce, then weigh the produce, fill the produce in govt sanctioned bardana/bags according to the required weight, then help in lifting and dispatching the produce to govt. warehouses or to any private warehouse as advised by govt functionaries. Finally create different invoice (called I form) for every individual farmers produce and submit the same to govt agencies along with J-Form (Details of farmer and his account no etc). Receive the payment and transfer it to farmer in whole according to MSP. And for all these services provided by arthiya, he receive certain percentage of commission (2 1/2% or 3%, I don't no exactly). Other than this, arthiyas work as local ATMs for farmers and provide short term and medium term loans at shot notice for farmers different requirements i.e. for seeds, fertilizers, family requirements or medical requirements. This Mandi System working very well in Punjab & Haryana, so every farmer is against removing this system.
And it’s all because Government refused to reform British era APMC laws which made illegal to sell and store crops anywhere else but nearest Govt Mandi crowded with government approved cartel of blood sucking Dalals/Arhatiyas/service providers, without whom approval you are not allowed to sell even a gram of your own produce
@Tatvamasi bingo. See this whole puppet show is nothing but all about Arhatiyas/Dalals/Middlemen or whatever they call these leeches.
Nothing to do with farmers in anyway imaginable.
We the Hindu tava, Bhakt, Sanghi farmers support GOI to crush these leeches. No free blood meal for these parasites at our cost
@Tatvamasi bingo. See this whole puppet show is nothing but all about Arhatiyas/Dalals/Middlemen or whatever they call these leeches.
Nothing to do with farmers in anyway imaginable.
We the Hindu tava, Bhakt, Sanghi farmers support GOI to crush these leeches. No free blood meal for these parasites at our cost
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Thats why govt. does not making law for MSP? To let the farmers of these states exploited by baniyas? UNIVERSAL MSP is major demand of agitating farmers! Punjab middleman/sheller owners purchase a small amount from Bihar and UP, because market their is not regulated and farmers are forced sell at low prices in the absence of MSP. Major purchases at low prices from these states is done by dalals of corporate houses I.e. Lala Ramdev, Adani and many more like him!
1. There is No alteration in MSP system whatsoever.
2. MSP is useless if I can’t sell my produce as the whole Arhatiyas/middleman system is corrupted to the core. Govt have made them the owners of whole purchasing system and they use this to mint money using Agents who go and buy the crops in bulk at throwaway price.
So it’s them who decide at what cost (and %profit) and how much they will allow us to sell it to Govt.
Govt has essentially brought a corrupt middleman in between farmers and FCI and we just can’t bypass them. Well until now. So yeah good riddance.
No private middleman is allowed here legally. All have govt documents as Arhatiyas and I’ve no doubt that they are selling crops to Ambani and Adanis or Tata Birlas too but all illegally and that why this whole system is so *censored*ing lurcative and profitable. How do you think they are serving drinks, pizzas, massages and all luxury items free of cost every day to these so called Holidaying farmers.
They buy enough to corrupt the whole system and make our lives measurable and they are doing it since decades
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And if you still can’t comprehend it, you will always feel bemused to why we are supporting it and then labelling us as Anti-Sikh , Anti-Punjab, Sanghi, Hindi tava, Bhakt and what not