But as per @Lolwa , Biharis are happy with their local agriculture law....why don't they produce any other crops and sell those to private players at a much higher price...I guess private players will buy those crops at much higher price than MSP of wheat in Punjab.
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Just like almost dead opposition parties of India, almost dead movement of khalistan trying to find some life through this protest. They all will fail miserably.
The basic aim is to end crop subsidies which at the moment is mostly cornered by Punjab & Haryana. If MSP is made statutory, the pvt sector won't touch these commodities & the GoI would go bankrupt trying to procure all these produce at MSP.
As far as those marginal farmers go,they may be supplementing their income by going to Punjab while leasing their own small holdings, or they may lack capital to invest in tilling their small landholdings or they may find it more lucrative to simply be labourers in P&H as compared to staying at home & cultivating their land.
You take MSP out of the equation for P&H & their disposable income drops straightaway. Once that falls, they won't be able to afford those labourers . Those Bihari labourers would automatically cease coming to Punjab.
Now economy is important when they pose an actual threat. Stop shifting goalposts...
So basically what you're saying is Delhi & consequently the rest of India better buy your agricultural produce at your rates or we'd have another repeat of what we faced in the Punjab throughout the 80's & 90's . Sounds like the "rakhi"Jutt Sikh misls used to demand in the 18th century before Ranjit Singh's Khalsa empire.
Anyway, if Punjab wants to negotiate with one gun held to it's head, all the best to Punjab. At the end of the day, just like the last time, most of the body bags happened to be of Punjabis be it Sikh or Hindu.
Try coming up with better arguments. These blackmailing tactics aren't going to get you anywhere. 20% of the farmers can't hold the balance 80% to ransom anymore than the tail can wag a dog. P&H will have to accept new realities & adapt. It can do so voluntarily or be forced to do it kicking & screaming. Marzi aapki, aakhir zindagi aapki.
Most bihari farmers do subsistence farming compared to Punjabi farmers which have much better infrastructure ,subsidy and irrigation and are much wealthier. Also the Bihar economy is nowhere the size of the Punjab's economy even with more population it has a smaller size. All this compounded should actually result in more suicides in Bihar. That isn't happening. That means the market actual gives much more freedom than the socialist money grabbing Punjab and Haryana continue to do.
You can't waste GoI money on subsidies for every bloody thing. It's equivalent to giving corporations subsidies to not go bankrupt since they can't compete with other corporations with cheaper products. You would obviously hate that but still cry for the poor destitute BMW riding farmers of Punjab. If someone isn't killing themselves over farming that means the model is superior simple as that no matter what mental gymnastics you continue to do..
MSP is a minimum amount and it is decided each time, then how will govt would go bankrupt trying to procure a crop that is already at its minimum price. And why u wanted to take MSP out of the equation, This rate is to safeguard the farmer to a minimum profit for the harvest, if the open market has a lesser price than the cost incurred.
And MSP is necessary, who will guarantee that private players are not buying crops at very low amount. U know all the risks associated with the farming.
What would happen if govt brings a law stating private companies can hire an employee at any salary and they start paying then 2 dollars per day.
Lol majority of other states in India are full of biharis...naturally they will have low suicide rates.
A farmer have to bear all the risk associated with farming not the labourer working on field.
If they have so much freedom in selling their crops, they should have more agriculture GDP than Punjab which are selling their crops at MSP and before commenting check how MSP is calculated.
Lol after reading all that, I am not sure whether u know the meaning of MSP.
Nobody is buying crops at our rates, they are buying rates at MSP, check how it is calculated and how much a farmer has to spend on farming.
U wanted to took away MSP also, its minimum support price....support price bro.
Do any leader of Kisaan unions talked about Khalistan? So where is blackmail? Its you Mody bhakts want to paint it a Khalistani movement. I just cautioned you that you are playing dangerous games to serve your corporate masters and you will not be able to control, what you are starting. It will be a costly affair for integrity of our country. You can't suppress masses for the benefit of a few Gujrati oligarchs. Also, You can't negate physics i.e. every action has an opposite reaction.
Punjab is not MP or Gujrat, where Govts can silence/bully whole farmer community (This protest involves not 20% or 80%, but 100% Punjab farmers. Every, I mean EVERY every village and land holding Punjabi farmer is contributed financially for these protests) using state machinery. If you don't want to consider probable consequences and PM & HM are makeing it a question of their ego, then good luck!!!
It's not the governments job to buy products. The government's job is to provide infrastructure and security. Rest is upto the citizen how he/she wants to exploit it. The Indian government doesn't have the money to be a nanny state. We are not Sweden,Norway or even Cuba. This sort of socialist measures are impractical for a country like India. This type of thought-process us what lead to our sorry state in the 1990's.
A company offering 2$ a day will be outcompeted by better paying companies simple. There is a limit to how you can pay in a true free market. Government can at best make labour laws. Your example is an apple and oranges situation anyway. No worker would work for them if the wage is that low and will get poor quality products..
do all farmers big or small qualify for MSP? If there is no restriction then we should only provide MSP to small farmers. Large land holding farmers should either modernize or make way for others. In fact our productivity is at the best average , better productivity in farming will reduce food prices and help the most poorer sections of society. Farmers in punjab or elsewhere for that matter of fact also get indirect subsidy on fertilizer and electricity (in some states absolutely free).
Arre bhaiya if the situation is so dire in Bihar why aren't they protesting for reinstating msp? Bihari migrants have forever been emigrating out for various kind of jobs from migrant labour to engineering and service related jobs. The land just doesn't give as much opportunities because of lack of development. You keep shifting goalposts every time I point out the statistic which says otherwise. Same for U.P.
Bihar never experienced the fruits of the Green revolution at the level Punjab did. Bihar doesn't have the level of well made irrigation system Punjab has. Bihar is nowhere as Water Rich or electrically rich as Punjab is. Bihar has been an impoverished state since before independence and continues to be the worst performers. If your model was so archaic and bad. The bihari farmer would be constantly committing suicide. That simply doesn't happen.
Punjab is just a poor performer now and have resisted to reform
It just can't compete. And is using socialist doles to continue to use a system which supports the bicholiyas and not the farmers...
Subsidies in India are meager i.e. 15000 per annum per farmer whiles farmer subsidies in Japan and US are around +700000 & +4000000 per annum per farmer. Even without these subsidies Indian farmer can't withstand the onslaught of western farmers. US is providing $850 billion subsidies for its farming sector per annum.
You know what let the Punjabi farmers screw themselves. I have no sympathy for them. They can protest and do this drama. It just proves they can't compete..
Indian gdp per capita is 2200$
Japanese gdp per capita is 40,000$
American gdp per capita is 62,000$
Please understand the difference and size of Indian and japanese and western economy. We need industrialise rather than be farming shithole. This is not Mahatma Gandhi's India..
Compete in what? Punjab's per acre production is highest in India.
That's why they are protesting, all these things which you have written look good in the case of big farmers only. In the open market, small farmers can't compete with big farmers and why would a private player buy crops from small farmers.
What would happen if they bring a clause regarding quality of crop, who is going to decide that. And farmers cannot control quality of crops.
And again, i will take a example of big farmer and small farmer. U r saying 2 dollar company will be outcompeted by better paying company. U know right that some companies are paying very less amount and they are still in buisness, its also similar to big farmers(more output) and small farmers (less output).
Then why are they so scared for removal of MSP?? The excess production is bought by the government and then rots in warehouses.
Industrialization does not mean destruction of farming sector. You mean promotion of Industrialization by righting off 150 lakh crore bank loans of large Industrialists in last 1 year?