This means they are more than capable of developing 250-350km range MLRS/TBMs (Maheshwarastra). Only the INS/GPS kit will probably be sourced from RCI. Don't think that GNC tech is part of their portfolio.
Agni & Prithvi Ballistic Missiles : News & Discussions
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One of my extended relatives was in Indian Army then went to Strategic Forces where he hadled Prithvi 1s until very early 2010s. So Prithvis were used as nuke delivery role for quite some time. Btw he was deployed in Rajasthan @Rajput Lion.
ND inspection in progress on a cast solid rocket motor, to detect for any defect in the propellant grains.
please do not take seriously yet, from a recent thesis paper
3 MIRV, at least 5000-6000 kg total payload on conservative estimate for Agni 6. Our 17 kiloton nuke weighed around 125 kg. But here each warhead is 1,600 - 2,000 kg weight if its 3 MIRV. Physics package maybe takes up most of that size. So 800-900 kg physics package makes sense, far larger than 125 kg package for our 17 kiloton weapon. Which means, gentlemen, each MIRV is either a.) 250 kilotons if it's a boosted fission weapon or b.) fusion weapon with such a large physics package??? Is it I daresay a high kiloton (700 or more kiloton) yield or even approaching, megaton range warhead? Unlikely imo.
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Our scientists and establishment believes our fusion test was a success, though some people raised doubts. It's likely primary stage succeeded but secondary stage failed partially. So maybe we are playing it safe and deploying boosted fission weapons only? Resident experts @Parthu @randomradio @Rajput Lion what is your take? Or maybe this is all hogwash and they put 3 MIRVs there just for reference?
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These things would carry roughly 2 to 3 ton payload at best, at least the concept slides from VK Saraswat clearly mentioned that. It is also in line with the iterative development curve they follow. From 1.5ton A5 payload to 3 ton payload in next version.
this is just a general config made in the sim software from grouping of warheads to understand performance parameter. Yes you can enhance warhead accuracy and better performance can be done by specific way of warhead grouping.
What the model drdo revealed was for TD , a general purpose grouping.
this is just a general config made in the sim software from grouping of warheads to understand performance parameter. Yes you can enhance warhead accuracy and better performance can be done by specific way of warhead grouping.
What the model drdo revealed was for TD , a general purpose grouping.
3 tonne payload makes sense that means each warhead is 1,000 kg roughly, meaning physics package is maybe 700-800 kg. This means even with boosted fission our warhead yield is 200 kilotons or so. A very potent capability imo. 3 MIRV with 250 kiloton each is potent but hopefully we miniaturize further and make it 4-5 250 kiloton warhead capable.
Nope, the RV in that case would house approx 500-650kg size warhead, own airframe weight is there, the RCS, VTP, liquid fuel of approx 150-200kg etc. Plus other stuff maybe, chaff flares, EW payload decoy. Actual config varies per mission.
Small Rv also mirror bigger rv structure wise, so sections are also there but miniatured with smaller packages.
17 kilotons warhead weighing 125 kg?
Where did that come from?
Last time I checked India was struggling with reducing warhead weights and wasn't being able to.
Agni 5 has around 200 KT warhead weighing a whopping more than a ton.
The problem with Indian nuclear deterrent program is that missile development is very advanced, but warhead development lags behind, a few decades.
Thanks dude. As always you remain a very credible source of info. I was told by a Pakistani expat that Brahmos was a "minimal threat" which causes no "major" damage to well built structures a few years ago. I will take this in the same light.
The bomb we exploded in Pokhran 1 1974 weighed 1400 kg but had a yield of 8-10 kilotons or so, in the next 24 years before the second test Indian scientists reduced the weight to 125 kg or so and increased the yield by boosting it with dueterium. This boosted fission design was successfully tested in Pokhran 2. All of this is documented in the book "Weapons of Peace" by Raja Rammanna who documented Indias nuclear programme. The 200 kiloton boosted fission physics package has a size of roughly 800 kg according to a diagram I saw somewhere which means warhead weight will be 1 tonne or something maybe. But the fusion 200 kiloton warhead weighs only 270 kg or so.
If that's the case then each RV probably have the 150 kiloton boosted fission warhead. Or if our scientists are really confident in their thermonuclear design it has the 200 kiloton fusion weapon. MIRV of 3 150-200 kiloton warheads is pretty deadly, one of our missiles can vapourize 3 entire cities
. Which means only 2 are needed to destroy Pakistan.
Yes.
You were sleeping in your physics classes?
Materials need time to have energy transferred. That's called inertia.
That's why thermobaric or fuel air mixture explosives are more destructive than C4.
Guess what this has to do with Brahmos?
Thanks dude, I feel delighted hearing your explanation. Nothing I was just reminiscing about old times. Some Lahori guy was making moonshots in front of me. Clearly, he lacked your sophistry. We are learning new things from you everyday.
This is especially revealing. What would you suggest? Should we abandon the effort all together. You seem particularly well informed.
There is very sketchy information out in public domain. But from published sources, a birds eye view can be formed.
India has operationalized capability for upto 3 warheads on the Agni V. (I know it can carry more but it will be carrying decoys, penetration aids too.) Quite a few published sources suggest India has MIRV warheads of upto 40KT yield.
Given the fact that India has actively sought to downplay its actual capability in the nuclear domain for a long time, it would be feasible that the MIRV warhead yield is a conservative estimate and actual yields could be higher.
In case any of these warheads has a two stage design the actual yield could be in three figures.
You do know he is parroting the first link on google search right. I refer to him with a term of endearment but he gets rather mad about it.
This slop thinks we live in huts and know zilch about stuff. He went to the UK and thought "I will evolve into some Super Pakistani". He inserting inertia to suit his logic and doing quick searches to get a talking point. He even bought explosive dynamics and physics to seem sophisticated.
An inevitable byproduct of constantly engaging with a lesser foe is that they do learn a few things.
Like how DJ-ISPR learnt the term center of gravity recently
His most remarkable achievement has been the establishment of the Mirpur Grocers Corps in Birmingham.
The physics package and size of the MIRV strongy suggest a yield in three figures. As marioch mentioned for a 3 warhead configuration each RV can have 400-450 kg package which is far far more than the weight of the physics package for a 40 kt weapon, which means at worst we have a heavy boosted fission warhead from 100-150 kilotons or at best we have thermonuclear 200 kiloton warheads.
This habit of understating yield is not good. Understating missile range is OK but enemies should know the yield and how destructive their demise will be, that's the essence of deterrence, there should be no doubt as to our capability to strike back. This is why US and Russia openly reveal the yields of very specific weapons that they have deployed, something which France, UK and China co as well.
I guess Usman and his 5 gang bang buddies died of HIV or something rather than the hardened hangar (if that's not a well built structure idk what is) collapsing on their buts from a Brahmos hit? MiNimUm dAmAgE jaNAb
