Ask a Russian fanboy how mant T14 are there and they seem to go on a rant
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No response on how Israel managed to totally crush Soviet armed Iraq Egypt and Syria. No response on actual numbers or facts but long a$$ rants which quite literally looks like a demented pig has taken over your keyboard.
Don't wish to continue this back and forth with a demented fanboy like you but let me leave you with this: the United States totally crushed the 4th largest conventional army in the world (Iraq) twice (1991, 2003) even though it was 10,000 km away from their homeland using M1A1 tanks, F15, F16, F117 etc while Russia with your invisible T14, Su 57, Su 30, Su 35 R37M T64 etc can't even handle Ukraine led by a clown next door. Lol. Now read that and cry.
Btw Russia even struggled for years against tiny Chechnya
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@batman make your peace with the above fact as well before you call American equipment overrated
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Oh, by the way, man—even though you're praising my hometown, I want to talk to you about radars.
I've already pointed out to you that Russian fighters being able to carry heavier and larger radars is a physical advantage in itself...
The Su-27 series in general can carry radars where just the core components exceed 400 kg, whereas the F-15C radar from the same era weighs only 200 kg. Not to mention something like the MiG-31.
This means Russian fighters have far greater headroom and redundancy for future upgrades.
Also, get one thing straight: after the Cold War ended, Russian fighters adopted Western-made components built with Western manufacturing techniques, followed by cheap Chinese circuit boards and all sorts of dirt-cheap, unemployed electronics technicians replacing those huge transistors and vacuum tubes. Meanwhile,
I realize it is truly hard for you to accept that—despite being the world's most powerful chips made in Taiwan for the U.S.—they end up circulating in flea markets everywhere, treated no better than trash.
The cost of a single 155mm artillery shell is enough to equip twenty Su-57s with incredibly advanced Western chips.
"Praise American technology"—I imagine Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un, and Khamenei all genuinely feel that way.
Russia bridged the electronics technology gap left over from the Cold War by adopting Western technology, and China did the same; meanwhile, Indians have filled so many positions in Silicon Valley that white college graduates are left unemployed and driving for Uber.
but Western fighters' disadvantage in payload capacity was never remedied.
---------I get that you're eager to air out the hierarchy you've set up in your head, but the world moves according to logic and facts.
When it comes to aircraft:
Big is good, and good is big.
It really is that simple.
A Russian airborne radar with 500 to 1,000 kg of extra weight capacity is meant to steamroll those 200 kg little pieces of junk crammed into small Chinese or French jets.
If you don't like it, you can always build your planes bigger, too—that way you could stuff larger and heavier radars inside, nobody's stopping you.
Assuming, of course, you have a good engine to begin with...
The gimmick of carving letters on a grain of rice is nowhere near as effective as the sheer boost of raw, doubled physical mass.
As for all that talk about manufacturing nodes, materials, processing techniques, backend digital processing, and programming—I welcome you to quantify and demonstrate those factors, and use them as evidence for a real comparison.
But you've spent all this time discussing what essentially amounts to zero; these are unknowns that still require actual proof.
...For instance, prove how Chinese radar has surpassed Russian radar in backend programming and by what percentage that advantage has increased detection range;
····or, prove how Chinese radar, leveraging superior material science, manages to offset the massive gap in peak transmit power with Russia, and by what percentage that translates into a detection range advantage...
Because you can't actually do that, everything you're saying is just empty talk.
For my part, as a Chinese local, I haven't seen Chinese nationalists achieve anything of substance in this regard—so I certainly wouldn't count on you to do any better.
What any reasonable Chinese person can realistically hope for is 'what Westerners can do
---------we can do too'—not 'what Westerners can't do, we somehow still can.'...
（Of course, if you genuinely believe the Indian Navy’s skills in operating Russian-diesel-electric and Russian-nuclear submarines surpass those of the Russian Navy, then I suppose I could—with a look of solicitous concern for the mentally challenged—indulge you as you keep spouting that nonsense.）
Regrettably, the aperture advantage and weight redundancy of Russian fighters I brought up are tangible, undeniable physical realities. These advantages don't require further proof to be valid.
In other words, in this debate, the points you've brought to the table carry far less weight than the ones I have.
If you can, you should really try to find higher-leverage arguments like that... just like I did.
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