Project 75 India Diesel-electric Submarine Programs (SSK) : Updates and Discussions
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German submarines set to strengthen Indian Navy as mega defence deal nears approval
India-Germany Submarine Deal: The German-designed submarines are badly needed, as India has 16 conventional submarines. Many of them are getting close to retirement.
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The final step before the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), headed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, clears the 8 billion Euro deal for six German-designed submarines to be built by the Mazagon Dock in Mumbai, will involve an examination of the deal, particularly the transfer of technology worth roughly Rs 5,000 crore. A government-appointed technical evaluation group is to examine the deal, particularly the areas relating to the technology Thyssenkrupp, the German firm, has promised.
Highly-placed sources said: "The group will look at various issues. A significant amount is being invested in the technology transfer. We must know what we can do with it and how useful it will be in the long run."
An all-clear from the evaluators will be the final step, as the ministries of defence and finance have cleared the deal. The National Security Council Secretariat has done the same. After an all-clear, the CCS will clear the deal, and the contract between Thyssenkrupp and MDL will be signed a month or two later. Work on the submarines will begin soon after, and the first of the six should be with the Navy by 2032-33.
The Navy has plans to build an additional three Thyssenkrupp submarines in the future, as it is short of submarines, and six of them (four Russian and two German) have been in service since the 1980s.
Highly-placed sources said: "The group will look at various issues. A significant amount is being invested in the technology transfer. We must know what we can do with it and how useful it will be in the long run."
An all-clear from the evaluators will be the final step, as the ministries of defence and finance have cleared the deal. The National Security Council Secretariat has done the same. After an all-clear, the CCS will clear the deal, and the contract between Thyssenkrupp and MDL will be signed a month or two later. Work on the submarines will begin soon after, and the first of the six should be with the Navy by 2032-33.
The Navy has plans to build an additional three Thyssenkrupp submarines in the future, as it is short of submarines, and six of them (four Russian and two German) have been in service since the 1980s.
Seems atleast the French are out now?
three additional P75I subs seems dumb considering the P76 exists and is actually easier to scale considering L&Ts involvement. Could be a mistake from the author of the article.
They are paying a lot for "ToT". It would be dumb to not use that and not building more of a good design. Indian Navy requires numbers.
₹90,000 crore ($9.4 Billion) P-75I deal for six submarines based on Type 214 to be signed next month according to outgoing German ambassador to India Philipp Ackermann.
economictimes.indiatimes.com
India, Germany to sign the Rs 90,000 crore submarine deal for Indian Navy soon, says German envoy Philipp Ackermann
India and Germany are close to signing a submarine deal soon. This agreement will allow for six advanced submarines to be built in India. The German Type 214 submarine design will form the basis of this project. This collaboration aims to strengthen the Indian Navy's underwater capabilities...
₹90,000 crore ($9.4 Billion) P-75I deal for six submarines based on Type 214 to be signed next month according to outgoing German ambassador to India Philipp Ackermann.
India, Germany to sign the Rs 90,000 crore submarine deal for Indian Navy soon, says German envoy Philipp Ackermann
India and Germany are close to signing a submarine deal soon. This agreement will allow for six advanced submarines to be built in India. The German Type 214 submarine design will form the basis of this project. This collaboration aims to strengthen the Indian Navy's underwater capabilities...
CCS clearance, then deal signing.
Why India needs to firewall its $9-billion German submarine deal
India and Germany are set to sign a $9 billion deal for six submarines. The article argues the contract needs safeguards against political risk and supply disruption.
"Both Project-75(I) and additional Scorpene submarines are being considered. Project-75(I) is at the final stage. It has been submitted and is pending a final decision by the competent authority. Additional Scorpene submarines are also being considered. It is not as advanced as the other one, but that is also under consideration. In addition to that, we are trying to put our indigenous, DRDO-developed Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system into one of our indigenous submarines when it comes in for a refit towards the middle of next year. We have multiple lines of effort going on to strengthen our underwater capabilities"
"Submarines will be entirely built in India, no doubt about it. There's no such suggestion or consideration in any case...Besides the indigenous Air Independent Propulsion (AIP), the two additional Scorpenes, and the strategic partner model for the Project-75(I) programme with the Germans, the Naval Physical & Oceanographic Laboratory (NPOL), our laboratory, has recently developed a very advanced indigenous integrated combat system for our submarines. We are going to start putting that in all of our submarines over time, as they come in for refits. That will again be a major game changer when it comes to improving the combat capabilities of our submarines"
When is he going to take a decision? What stops us from closing the Scorpene deal 2 years ago?
Money, their ask is absurd.
Finance ministry babus also need to be convinced. Its not like everything is in his hand.