"Deeply Regret Jallianwala Bagh": British PM Theresa May In Parliament

If millions of Indians are still dying from similar undernourishment in peace time, post green revolution with 21st century technology, transportation and weather forecasting, you can hardly blame some English guy with a pipe for a similar number of people dying in 1943 during a World War that he was fighting on 3 fronts, whilst supporting a 4th front, in the midst of bad weather, crop failure, supplies from Burma being cut off and a millions Indians fleeing Burma into Bengal.

Just maybe, just maybe that guy with a pipe didn't plan for the crop failure, losing Burma and a million Indians fleeing into Bengal and didn't realise the severity until it was too late, given that he was pre-occupied with hell on Earth at the time. Maybe if your great hero Chandra Bose hadn't been helping the Japanese, then taking Burma might have been a little bit harder for them. But never mind, can't be his fault, he's Indian, blame the white guy instead.

And how is bose helping the Japanese different from Churchill joining hands with Stalin?
 
I think we have gone over this horse shit that you've posted before and also tired justifications by that rascist scumbag who died a dog's death where he deliberately diverted millions of tons of grains grown in India to Europe . Bose was fighting for the independence of India. To see to it that parasites like the British would never again be arbiters of this nation's destiny such that man made famines would cause millions of deaths.

Now @BlackOpsIndia

This thread has gone the way hundreds of threads before it has. Off topic and completely derailed because we have an undernourished Irish peabrain here ( perhaps after effects of the potato famine his forefathers suffered) jumping from May's apology on the British role in Jallianwala Bagh massacre to justifying British role in India and millions of deaths due to man made famines to how modern day India is still suffering from hunger related deaths.

What sort of moderation is being exercised here?
 
Look here Read up on the Bengal famine. Don't parade your ignorance here.
And those Japanese they teamed up with took Burma, hence starting the Bengal famine. Well done guys. Are their anymore Indian atrocities you'd care to blame Britain for?
 
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I again ask you this. In what way do statistics on malnutrition or hunger related deaths justify killing of millions in man made famines in British India?

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So famines under British rule before the green revolution, some during war, some due to El Nino Southern Oscillation (1876), were man made by the British, but every death in peace time since is a case of "nothing to see here?"

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And for the record, during the 1876 famine in India due to El Nino, 5.5m died, in neighbouring China 13 million died.
 
I think we have gone over this horse shit that you've posted before and also tired justifications by that rascist scumbag who died a dog's death where he deliberately diverted millions of tons of grains grown in India to Europe . Bose was fighting for the independence of India. To see to it that parasites like the British would never again be arbiters of this nation's destiny such that man made famines would cause millions of deaths.

Now @BlackOpsIndia

This thread has gone the way hundreds of threads before it has. Off topic and completely derailed because we have an undernourished Irish peabrain here ( perhaps after effects of the potato famine his forefathers suffered) jumping from May's apology on the British role in Jallianwala Bagh massacre to justifying British role in India and millions of deaths due to man made famines to how modern day India is still suffering from hunger related deaths.

What sort of moderation is being exercised here?
Perhaps they didn't predict the Japanese overrunning Burma, the crop failure and returning Indians when they exported the grain.

Bose was an idiot, if his actions had succeeded India would have been under the jackboot of Imperial Japan. He wasn't much use at flying planes either it seems.
 
So famines under British rule before the green revolution, some during war, some due to El Nino Southern Oscillation (1876), were man made by the British, but every death in peace time since is a case of "nothing to see here?"

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And for the record, during the 1876 famine in India due to El Nino, 5.5m died, in neighbouring China 13 million died.
So the El Nino effect was responsible for the Irish Potato Famine too, isn't it? And since civil war ravaged China ( which incidentally also saw British participation) had more casualties than British ruled India, we ought to be grateful to the British.
 
Perhaps they didn't predict the Japanese overrunning Burma, the crop failure and returning Indians when they exported the grain.

Bose was an idiot, if his actions had succeeded India would have been under the jackboot of Imperial Japan. He wasn't much use at flying planes either it seems.
He wasn't flying the plane, Paddy. And the IRA teaming up with Jerries to indulge in sabotage in Britain was pure gold as was De Valera's decision not to back Britain in WW-2. Pretty smart of him. Of course, the millions of Paddy's who went to their reward marching under the British banner were just that - Paddy's or cannon fodder paddy's.
 
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So how do you explain the exporting of Indian food to richer nations whilst your own people die from food shortages and malnutrition. And JFC, Churchill did not plan the Bengal Famine, WW2 was on, he had far more important things to be planning.
British rule:
There were atleast a dozen MAN MADE mass feminine under British rule in India, each famine killing on average half a million people.

India post Independence:
No mass famine reported post Independence


Private organizations - like gurdwara provide free food daily to how ever chooses, even in foreign countries, Escon & other provide free food to school kids in millions daily.
Govt - Nation wide free lunch scheme for kids at school. Average poor person - Since India is digital today, with biometric linked low income people, get direct food subsidiary.
 
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And how is bose helping the Japanese different from Churchill joining hands with Stalin?
The more careful consideration of the consequences. Stalin was at the opposite end of Europe, the aim was to keep Hitler bogged down fighting Soviets to make him less effective on the Western front and in Africa. His reduced effectiveness in Africa lost him the oil fields, and drew his air power away from the RAF, which then saw his major industrial cities saturation bombed as a result. The result was victory.

Bose's result was being defeated, captured, crashing a plane and burning to death. Not to well thought out really.
 
Now that everyone is chasing their tail and _Anonymous_ is convulsing while frothing at the butt, it's time for some TV, nighty night.
 
Now that everyone is chasing their tail and _Anonymous_ is convulsing while frothing at the butt, it's time for some TV, nighty night.
You mean time to hit the pub. Drink yourself silly, piss on your bed and jump on the commode.
 
And your neighbours are outperforming you in terms of reducing food poverty deaths.
This is what you claimed.


And now slowly shifting to poverty and other things after I showed you report contrary to your claim. Your argument was in a way justification of man made famine deaths in simpler terms death by hunger and not about poverty. Try again.
 
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How does statistics on stunting or undernourishment justify man made famine deaths in millions? What sort of whataboutery is tolerated in the name of FoE out here? @BlackOpsIndia
It's British logic I guess. Please report those posts to @nair, I am party to discussion I should not moderate otherwise I will be imposing my own views.
Just maybe, just maybe that guy with a pipe didn't plan for the crop failure, losing Burma and a million Indians fleeing into Bengal and didn't realise the severity until it was too late,
BMD you are grossly unaware of facts, you are quoting 13 years old report and we have came a very long way in these years especially in section of hunger and poverty.

The report I gave you was of 2017, latest one, try reading a bit.

Also that animal with pipe was not so innocent that he didn't just forgot to plan for famine but he induced that famine, that's the whole point. Not only was food of Indians was diverted to Britain taking it away from dying with hunger but even third country supply was stopped and diverted so as no help can reach them. This was the criminal act, not providing them food is not the issue, taking away their food and stopping everyone else from helping them is the issue. Understand the difference between the two if you want to discuss it otherwise there is no end to blabbering.

Also read about the Delhi Durbar and the famine, while Bengal was dying of hunger a large celebration was made for Queen in Delhi all on Indians money again the same case of not just ignoring the plight, but even taking away there money in that situation for own leisure. Churchill was not alone and that was not a standalone event, it was repeated everytime during famine.

You took the power, you governed them, you took taxes but when natural calamity strikes instead of helping them you increased the taxes, you forcefully extracted money even when they were not able to, you took away the food all for own luxury and killed them. How is that not criminal?
 
No Need to turn this into another thread discussing British manufactured famines and other atrocities. enough threads have gone down that road, any post not related to specifics of jallianwala massacre or British response to jallianwala will be deleted.
 
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No Need to turn this into another thread discussing British manufactured famines and other atrocities. enough threads have gone down that road, any post not related to specifics of jallianwala massacre or British response to jallianwala will be deleted.
Yeah please move those posts to chit chat thread, at least my unrelated posts, I started it unintentionally, I usually stay away from these topics as they are full of flamebaits derailing everything, should not have participated.
 
1) Regretting is not a full, unconditional apology, but a welcome first step nonetheless - provided this isn't the end

2) They're absolutely desperate right now with Brexit, time to squeeze them for an apology re: the Great Bengal "Famine" and return of the Kohinoor.
 
The more careful consideration of the consequences. Stalin was at the opposite end of Europe, the aim was to keep Hitler bogged down fighting Soviets to make him less effective on the Western front and in Africa. His reduced effectiveness in Africa lost him the oil fields, and drew his air power away from the RAF, which then saw his major industrial cities saturation bombed as a result. The result was victory.

Bose's result was being defeated, captured, crashing a plane and burning to death. Not to well thought out really.

Yeah since the Brits were the right end up their @rse joining forces with Mao would have made sense. You're just BSing.