Urjit Patel resigns as RBI governor

To all your questions, India is still being looted like it was under Colonialism. Our money is devalued to help so called investors to invest in our system. But China did not follow it and yet managed to get highest ever FDI in their system. A lot needs to be explained about the years of MMS followed by Raghuram Rajan and Urjit Patel. I find no reason why we must buy dollars and create reserves at higher rates rather than use that money to boost our infra and economy. What do we get on our reserves? just about 2-3% returns but we are creating PPP models with over 12% returns in India for investors. We have become slaves yet again due to these policies.

Forex reserves are another matter
Altogether

We need to maintain forex reserves
In dollar and other currencies because we
Have a large Trade deficit and a moderate Current Account deficit

Basically the RBI lives in an ivory tower

The Entire Responsibility of the Economy
Is with the Finance Ministry

RBI was a silent co conspirator when
UPA indulged in Phone Banking Scams
 
The whole dispute with RBI and GOI was about RBI Rupee reserves

Which Govt felt that a part of it can be used for Bank Recapitalization.

Also the dispute was about Lending Freeze
Imposed on some PSU banks
The dispute was about Repo rates, reserves and lending to MSMEs and NBFCs. IL & FS went bankrupt due to Raghuram & Urjit Patel only.
Forex reserves are another matter
Altogether

We need to maintain forex reserves
In dollar and other currencies because we
Have a large Trade deficit and a moderate Current Account deficit
Yes, but how we decide what are ADEQUATE reserves? Nearly every banker in the world has called Indian forex reserves as more than adequate. Now should we continue to build them for lesser returns when our own economy offers higher returns.
 
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Basically the RBI lives in an ivory tower

The Entire Responsibility of the Economy
Is with the Finance Ministry

RBI was a silent co conspirator when
UPA indulged in Phone Banking Scams
Ru pay was launched by UPA if I am not wrong but they allowed US cards to dominate Indian card transactions. Modi changed it and introduced BHIM etc. US is crying as they are going to loose billions from India.
RuPay - Wikipedia
 
The dispute was about Repo rates, reserves and lending to MSMEs and NBFCs. IL & FS went bankrupt due to Raghuram & Urjit Patel only.

Yes, but how we decide what are ADEQUATE reserves? Nearly every banker in the world has called Indian forex reserves as more than adequate. Now should we continue to build them for lesser returns when our own economy offers higher returns.

RBI is starving the MSME s of credit

Which is affecting job growth

And in the Recent Rupee Devaluation
It was the GOI which took steps to calm the
Markets by entering Into currency swap with
Japan and other countries such as Iran , UAE ,Russia to conserve forex

RBI was suggesting NRI bonds as usual
Which carry high interests
 
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The dispute was about Repo rates, reserves and lending to MSMEs and NBFCs. IL & FS went bankrupt due to Raghuram & Urjit Patel only.

Yes, but how we decide what are ADEQUATE reserves? Nearly every banker in the world has called Indian forex reserves as more than adequate. Now should we continue to build them for lesser returns when our own economy offers higher returns.

Reserves of around 400 Billion will
Keep the Rupee steady

Oil prices are also a concern for us
 
RBI is starving the MSME s of credit

Which is affecting job growth

And in the Recent Rupee Devaluation
It was the GOI which took steps to calm the
Markets by entering Into currency swap with
Japan and other countries such as Iran , UAE ,Russia to conserve forex

RBI was suggesting NRI bonds as usual
Which carry high interests
In 2008 when oil crossed $150 to a barrel and world economy tanked, India floated oil binds which were usurped by IMF and had windfall gains in 2016 when they became due. The present govt has paid all of them. No one will talk about it while the govt also managed to keep FD within 3% for this fiscal.
What happens when RBI creates forex reserves beyond the need? They are able to show to govt that their own reserves are low. Imagine if the money is not used to create the fores reserves then where will it be parked? It will be parked with RBI and RBI will have to share it with GOI. What Urjit Patel did was that he helped IMF and Fed to make money while denying to Indian Infra projects. There is a cost associated with creating reserves and the local economy must pay a price for it. If I have my say, I will recall about 25% forex reserves and also take away the 3.7lak core reserves of RBI to boost investment in Infra in India instead of begging UAE or Saudia for investments. Let us create a reverse brain drain and stop boosting dollar by buying them. We have been forced to go for local currency swap with Japan & UAE for what reason? Its due to wrong policies of RBI. Imagine if India and China which hold the largest reserve of dollars start withdrawing their investment in Dollars? what will happen to Dollar? it will lose its value rapidly.
 
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Let us not debate it any further as yet again my predictions have come true. I had stated it two months back, Jhoot kay paawn nahin hotay, is liyeh udta hai, sacchai pairon par khadi hoti hai aur dikhai deti hai.
 
RBI is starving the MSME s of credit

Which is affecting job growth

And in the Recent Rupee Devaluation
It was the GOI which took steps to calm the
Markets by entering Into currency swap with
Japan and other countries such as Iran , UAE ,Russia to conserve forex

RBI was suggesting NRI bonds as usual
Which carry high interests
:cool: Wouldn't be a bad time to re-look at dual -Citizenship for OCI/NRI bunch. If nothing a large influx of remittance will happen.
 
with all due respects - please stop calling this Hindu growth rate.

the Hindu growth rate was when the Hindu's share of the world trade was #1. or #2.

that 3% was more "Nehru growth rate". blaming all ills on the Hindus while all the great stuff on shit politicians has become a bane. lets identify the correct people responsible for these stuff - even if its a good thing or bad.

Back to topic - Gurumurthy explained what he thinks needs to be done - I havent heard Urjit Patel's argument on why it should not be done. I havent been able to decide my stand why the reserves at RBI need to be touched or left alone after hearign Gurumurthy - but I havent been opposed to it. I want to see what happens next and then decide if this is a good thing or bad.


are you saying the Chinese do not interfere in their central bank's functioning? Then how do you explain the now world famous "china manipulates currency" approach? if thats not the govt trying to use Economy as its tool in foreign policy then what is?

and you are right - apart from China and India - everyone in BRICS has faltered - so should we not go the China way?

China started by beating relegion out society. Let's start with that.

In 2008 when oil crossed $150 to a barrel and world economy tanked, India floated oil binds which were usurped by IMF and had windfall gains in 2016 when they became due. The present govt has paid all of them. No one will talk about it while the govt also managed to keep FD within 3% for this fiscal.
What happens when RBI creates forex reserves beyond the need? They are able to show to govt that their own reserves are low. Imagine if the money is not used to create the fores reserves then where will it be parked? It will be parked with RBI and RBI will have to share it with GOI. What Urjit Patel did was that he helped IMF and Fed to make money while denying to Indian Infra projects. There is a cost associated with creating reserves and the local economy must pay a price for it. If I have my say, I will recall about 25% forex reserves and also take away the 3.7lak core reserves of RBI to boost investment in Infra in India instead of begging UAE or Saudia for investments. Let us create a reverse brain drain and stop boosting dollar by buying them. We have been forced to go for local currency swap with Japan & UAE for what reason? Its due to wrong policies of RBI. Imagine if India and China which hold the largest reserve of dollars start withdrawing their investment in Dollars? what will happen to Dollar? it will lose its value rapidly.

Out of my concern for the 200 crore in FD in the bank buddy- please don't support the cranky nonsense of the current government. Keep the experts where they belong.
 
If you are referring to RBI reserves
Which were being demanded by the Govt
These were the Rupee Reserves

That is the profits made by RBI by lending to the Govt

Forex Reserves are separately accounted
sure - fine - why shouldnt that be used by govt infra works? not in full - but certainly in part?
 
China started by beating relegion out society. Let's start with that.
can you please, kindly get to the topic at hand instead of changing the goal post?

as per your own post - China and India are the only BRICS nations doing well - and China does use its govt policy into its central bank policies to use thei entire state machinery towards the greater financial prosperity - why shouldnt that be the way we do it too?
 
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can you please, kindly get to the topic at hand instead of changing the goal post?

as per your own post - China and India are the only BRICS nations doing well - and China does use its govt policy into its central bank policies to use thei entire state machinery towards the greater financial prosperity - why shouldnt that be the way we do it too?

Chin doesn't use policy to promote G.
 
from:
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...e-s-bank-of-china-gains-a-little-independence


Daniel Moss: It’s often taken as a given that China’s central bank isn’t independent in the way of the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank or the Bank of Japan. Is this picture too simplistic?

Alex Wolf: It’s correct to say that the PBOC isn’t independent in the way the Fed, ECB or BOJ are. But the PBOC’s tools and monetary policy framework have evolved a lot in recent years in ways that have given it slightly more independence than in the past to control liquidity and guide interest rates.

The PBOC has, perhaps, one of the broadest, most difficult mandates of any major central bank in the world. It is simultaneously responsible for maintaining growth, price stability, currency stability and the health of the financial sector. Historically, all this had to be done without any control over interest rate decisions as all benchmark rates moves would need political approval.


from wikipedia:
The People's Bank of China (PBC or PBOC; Chinese: 中国人民银行; pinyin: Zhōngguó Rénmín Yínháng) is the central bank of the People's Republic of China responsible for carrying out monetary policy and regulation of financial institutions in mainland China, as determined by Bank Law. Valued at US$3.21 trillion,[4] The People's Bank of China has had the largest financial asset holdings of any central bank in the world since July 2017.[5][6] Though possessing a high degree of independence by Chinese standards, it remains a department of the State Council.[7]
 
Urjit Patel is saving his own neck by resigning before the govt puts its hand into the cookie jar.

Now let's see which bakra will become RBI Gov.
 
Is the RBI answerable to anybody or not

The Entire Responsibility for the Economy
Is with the Govt

RBI is just another department

We have a very strong media including
Economic experts
Which can point out the mistakes of any Govt

RBI had become obsessed with Inflation
Management only

Absolutely. Which is why I have previously nominated Modi to take over as governor of RBI. Since RBI is only another government department, modi can hold joint mnistry of PM and RBI until economy is stabilized or give a trusted leutenant like Yogi joint charge,
 
The whole dispute with RBI and GOI was about RBI Rupee reserves

Which Govt felt that a part of it can be used for Bank Recapitalization.

Also the dispute was about Lending Freeze
Imposed on some PSU banks

Yes I also think said banks with track record of bad lending should not be banned. Amitji and Yogji will ensure ful capital security.
 
Its pretty simple - The RBI is independent of the govt, taking action whenever needed. These people have resigned because they are not allowed to do their job. Analogous to the RBI, Parrikar left the cacophony in Delhi for the peaceful sands of Goa.
 
Hindu growth rate of 3.5-5% was earlier norm but now these two jokers tried to peg Hindu growth rate to 6-7.5% and failed. Chor ka bhai utaidigir is an old Hindi proverb and let us see what TOIlet and bigger cheat have to say about his resignation.
All Indians should be concerned, says ex-RBI governor Rajan on Urjit Patel's resignation - Times of India
Urjit Patel quits RBI: The 'vigilant owl' flies out amid differences with government - Times of India ►
TOIlet Jain hold largest amount of real estate in India and have made a business out of news reporting. Do you know how do they operate? In 2010 they came to me and asked me for equity to promote me and my airline. They said they wanted only equity in benaami way and will ensure that I am well known all over the world. I refused. TOIlet never ever published any article about me or my airline.

Yes but please tell me what are the fundamentals of Chinese economy vis a vis Indian economy? which is stronger? AND finally why only the two among BRICS? What drives these two economies?


The story that culminated in RBI Governor Urjit Patel's resignation probably began the day when the Modi government decided to appoint S Gurumurthy to the RBI's board. Theswadeshi-spouting chartered accountant who believed that the RBI "has lost its capacity to think for India", and who had openly blamed it for the economic troubles of India's small businesses, was now going to oversee the central bank's decisions.

It was the first signal from the government that it wanted monetary policy to be tailored to its political needs. It was also a sign that the Modi regime was going to put reforms on the backburner, at least till the Lok Sabha polls. After all, a known critic of international finance had been appointed to the board of an institution that was run by people who had emerged from that very ecosystem.


Blog: Behind-The-Scenes Of Urjit Patel's "Surprise" Resignation


VSTOL- Gurumurthy hates FDI- your entire logic is based on FDI and you want someone who doesn't believe in it to lead it?
 
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VSTOL- Gurumurthy hates FDI- your entire logic is based on FDI and you want someone who doesn't believe in it to lead it?
I too support Gurumurthy. Over 80% of so called FDI comes to stock exchange how much of that comes to infra projects? less than 15%. The money invested in stocks is taken away overnight as they have no lock in period. We must fund our needs thru our own money and for that releasing money into the system and reducing the forex reserves are best ways. We give a much higher return on foreign capital while our forex reserves bring us much lower returns. Are we a nation of slaves? why must we allow others to loot us and become rich?
 
I too support Gurumurthy. Over 80% of so called FDI comes to stock exchange how much of that comes to infra projects? less than 15%. The money invested in stocks is taken away overnight as they have no lock in period. We must fund our needs thru our own money and for that releasing money into the system and reducing the forex reserves are best ways. We give a much higher return on foreign capital while our forex reserves bring us much lower returns. Are we a nation of slaves? why must we allow others to loot us and become rich?

yeahh...I think you guys ought to keep the discussion theoretical, like with demonetization.